[Path-Shaper]

Fener, on Jun 8 2009, 08:51 PM, said:

Kesso is being about as logical as a sober irishman.

Hey, hey, I'm sober. Mostly. Sometimes.

[Liosan]

yes, but how logical are you? hmm?

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on Jun 8 2009, 09:07 PM, said:

yes, but how logical are you? hmm?

Very logical. Like the time IIPS DRIVER ERROR *runs*

[Liosan]

hmm
I have finished a re-read.

Tennes, Telas, Tellan and Korvalain --I can hardly say anyhting about those 4.

looking at the ill-fated Fener lynch yesterday, I note that the most vocal reasoning for voting him yesterday was Ruse. this was right after Fener brought up Korlat as possible power role, with him and Fener having a vote each.

I didn't pay it much attention yesterday, but now i'm thinking it was Ruse doing some clever pre-emptive derailing.

vote Korlat
because I feel that Ruse was symping him yesterday.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 12 hours and 44 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Liosan: ( Meanas )
1 vote for Kessobahn: ( Fener )
1 vote for Korlat: ( Liosan )
3 votes for Fener: ( Korlat, Rashan, Kessobahn )
1 vote for Tellan: ( Korvalain )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Ruse, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 08 June 2009 - 09:37 PM

[Fener]

I have to go to bed now. I'll be very willing to vote for korlat tomorow morning. But no jumps now, I need sleep

[Ruse]

The meeting was longer and far more boring than anticipated, so I am behind with everything this evening.

Tell you what Fener, I would love to vote for you today if only for the fact you are such a cocksure pain, regrettably for me that's not a strong enough reason. My case on you yesterday was weak, but it was as good as it could be with the information available and for me it was the best one on the table. Whilst, your case that I was recruited flies just as well as…well pigs do - no offence! OMGUS all bar the vote.

And if you must know I am willing to vote Kesso, if only for his argument that you would be a good recruit for the cult. I mean that makes no sense, it's even worse than your argument on me! You were a breath away from a lynch, the recruiter would be nuts to do that - and even if he were then to my mind it's the recruiter we want not some ineffectual (in terms of power) know all…no offence again . Who would want to divert attention on to a 'suspected' recruit more than the recruiter?…After all he knows who he has turned.

@Liosan - I said yesterday that I would vote for Korlat if there was a case. Same thing today, in fact if you read my posts from earlier today (instead of relying on selective memory) you will see I raised him as a possible contender, and he remains my likely candidate for today, except for my concerns about Kessobahn as above.

[Ruse]

Still all alone. Must sleep now.

[Korvalain]

Ok, I've done some reading and caught up.

What Rashan says about Fener makes sense IMO, although no one seems to be listening. There seems to be a general avoidance of returning to a vote on Fener - his 'almost lynch' has lent him some strange form of credibility. If the mechanic works as D'riss says it might (cult can only recruit non-power roles) then assuming Fener's reveal is real, he made himself an obvious target.

On the other hand, Kesso's posting has been annoying me from the very beginning. However, playing a dogged desire to lynch Fener doesn't necessarily suggest 'cult' to me, since I would think the cult would be more likely to try to get a lynch going on just about anyone they figure is powerful, not just grab a single bone and hang on for dear life.

Korlat hasn't done anything terribly suspicious.....which is why I'm suspicious. Lots of posting, and has managed to stay relatively squeaky clean. That speaks of strong concentration when writing posts.

I should be here for deadline. For now:

Remove Vote

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 10 hours and 48 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Liosan: ( Meanas )
1 vote for Kessobahn: ( Fener )
1 vote for Korlat: ( Liosan )
3 votes for Fener: ( Korlat, Rashan, Kessobahn )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Ruse, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Tellan]

7-ish hours to end of day if my math is correct and i'm not going to be here. seems like a potential stalled lynch again and i voted him yesterday so i'm voting him again so that hopefully we can move on.

vote fener

edit-changed 6 to 7 go math.

This post has been edited by Tellan: 09 June 2009 - 02:47 AM

[Meanas]

Well, I guess I got all the information out of that Liosan vote I'm going to get...

Remove Vote


I still don't quite see the rationale behind the idea that the cult have probably recruited Fener. As someone else has mentioned, is a recruiter really going to risk targetting someone who was within one vote of being lynched the day before? I find that highly unlikely.

So I'm kind of looking at Korlat and Kessobahn as possible targets right now. The main thing with Kessobahn, I think, is that he's likely to be on Silanah's team, which to be honest doesn't do much for me as reasoning. I haven't liked Korlat's play since looking into him after Fener's case yesterday. I look at it and could definitely see him as a power role of some kind. I'm off to bed now, and won't be back before deadline, so I'll lay my vote down and hope for the best.

Vote Korlat

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 6 hours and 14 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Kessobahn: ( Fener )
2 votes for Korlat: ( Liosan, Meanas )
4 votes for Fener: ( Korlat, Rashan, Kessobahn, Tellan )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Ruse, Telas, Tennes


--

PB here I doubt I'll be here at time out but should be here for a bit.

[Liosan]

night's gonna time out round 6 AM.
I deffo won't be around for that.

sigh

[Korvalain]

@ Meanas, where do you get that Sil and Kess are on the same team? That would 'seem' to clear Kess of cult accusations, if true.

Korlat and Kesso, the current viable options other than Fener are both piled onto Fener's train, which makes me think I should vote for one of them rather than Fener. For a while, I wasn't sure which of the three I was really inclined to lynch.

Here's what I have concluded and why: Vote Korlat

Fener pointed a finger at Korlat with a sort of confident bravado, but is now pointing with a similar strong level of certainty at Kesso. I know some info has changed in the game, but not THAT much info has changed, so that swing vote suggests a possible allegience change to cult. For that reason Korlat looks to be the possible recruiter.

Furthermore, a while ago Rashan made the argument that Fener was a good cult recruit. This was a point which was commented on by players, some who agree, and some who disagree with that possibility. Now what interested me is while Korlat's posts appear in and around that discussion on Rashan's point, (sometimes appearing right after a Rashan post), he never once comments on it. If you go back and read the posts over the past couple of pages in order, it's like he's studiously ignoring that point - perhaps afraid to give it traction with too many other players.

Those two things together look just fishy enough to influence my vote.

[Korvalain]

Hmm, I'm a bit of an idiot...

I just realized that something I mentioned actually pokes a big hole in my argument: Korlat is voting for Fener. Why recruit him and then move to kill him immediately?

I'm back to square one.

Remove Vote

[Emurlahn]

Back.

Well, I like that final post by you Korv - it seems logical to me. What I find interesting is still the stall on Fener's lynch yesterday, and then the spread of votes today (they've been quite wide), and that could be useful in future days when we're looking at sides.

My current problem is that I can see all the sides of argument - Fener as a potential cult recruit, while iffy, is still viable, as is Kesso as a Fener-obsessed person playing very strangely. Then we've got Korlat, potential power role and cult recruiter...well, I say that Korlat is the most solid of the cases, simply for the fact that Fener WAS pointing at him quite aggressively, and now he is not. That could be a good play by Fener (and maybe some team members?) to set up Korlat for a fall, however.

[Fener]

well, I've no problem voting for Korlat. I still hold to the arguments I've used over the last few days in regards to him, and so I'll vote

Remove vote
Vote Korlat

[Telas]

Of all the arguments I've read, the vote on Kesso makes more sense than the rest. Korlat and Fener just seem a little too visible to me to be a cult leader, but Kesso's lack of posting and his odd obsession with Fener is just disconcerting, plus it fits with the idea that Liosan was recruited night 1.

Vote Kessobahn

edit: hmm, crosspost with the other vote on Kesso leaving...

This post has been edited by Telas: 09 June 2009 - 05:12 AM

[Liosan]

huh?
where did THAT come from?