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Mafia 46.5: The Deepgate Game Factions? What Factions?

#981 User is offline   Ruse 

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:54 PM

You can't vote if you aren't here and I did vote for Fener, in fact I pushed my case day 2. I was gullible and did believe his reveal, but was hardly alone in that. Oh and I wanted to hammer Game today, but YOU said to wait and even removed your vote. I told you I wouldn't be on until later...you can't have forgotten that already can you? And now I have to sleep, whether it's convenient or not. Heresy I know, but this game has to come after petty trivialities like work and family (not all of us can access the internet in work you know).

Edit: Cross post - and this was @ Rashan

This post has been edited by Ruse: 11 June 2009 - 10:54 PM


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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:55 PM

It is Day 6. 37 hours and 11 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night

1 vote for Telas: ( Liosan )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes
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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:56 PM

View PostRuse, on Jun 11 2009, 06:54 PM, said:

You can't vote if you aren't here and I did vote for Fener, in fact I pushed my case day 2. I was gullible and did believe his reveal, but was hardly alone in that. Oh and I wanted to hammer Game today, but YOU said to wait and even removed your vote. I told you I wouldn't be on until later...you can't have forgotten that already can you? And now I have to sleep, whether it's convenient or not. Heresy I know, but this game has to come after petty trivialities like work and family (not all of us can access the internet in work you know).

Edit: Cross post - and this was @ Rashan



Nope, hadn't forgot about Gamelon, but I must have forgotten the Fener thing. Hmm, I'll look.

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 11:18 PM

ok, went through Meanas, and I realy don't see much there. I think my paranoia's just spiking.

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 11:37 PM

Rash, as you've suggested, I read over D'riss.

like Meanas, his play is very cool, detached and analytical. Also, I now know who he is, :lol:

while remaining calm and staying out of the spotlight is not suspicious in itself, the impression I always get from these kinds of players (that includes meanas, too) is that they have important roles. not necessarily cult, but they may be power roles in a faction that hasn't been hit yet.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:06 AM

View PostRuse, on Jun 11 2009, 06:54 PM, said:

You can't vote if you aren't here and I did vote for Fener, in fact I pushed my case day 2. I was gullible and did believe his reveal, but was hardly alone in that. Oh and I wanted to hammer Game today, but YOU said to wait and even removed your vote. I told you I wouldn't be on until later...you can't have forgotten that already can you? And now I have to sleep, whether it's convenient or not. Heresy I know, but this game has to come after petty trivialities like work and family (not all of us can access the internet in work you know).

Edit: Cross post - and this was @ Rashan



Danger - Contradiction alert!!!!

Day 2 after the Sil Lynch Fener and Ruse are talking, Ruse says, I didn't try to hurt you!

View PostRuse, on Jun 7 2009, 06:47 AM, said:

View PostFener, on Jun 7 2009, 10:28 AM, said:

what the hell?

There's a big difference between what's said on the first page of the game and further into it. I understand that I'm a good target and this is a merc game so there's no such thing as innocent, but can't you guys at least try to provide an argument that actually makes sense?

Look how things have developed, I mentioned Korlat yesterday and today as one of my favourite candidates for a lynch. Ruse went for me yesterday when I did that, and again today (meaning day 2 btw), not to mention Liosan.. Don't you guys feel some people were a bit too willing to jump on my train for no logical reason? This has not been a Fener acts like a power role and should be lynched, but rather a we must lynch Fener so let's find some sign of him being a power role.

And of course I'm bloody obsessed with getting the strong roles, it's the best way for my team to win killing the other leaders. That's the logical approach to this game, weakening the other factions as much as possible. I firmly believe Korlat is the best target and if you consider it, I have no better reason to want him dead than because I consider him a threat. If he's a threat to me then he's also a threat to everyone else not on his own team.


I think you need to do a reread or stop being disingenuous. I did NOT go for you yesterday (game day 1) quote me where I did or did you think you could slip that in to attack me and no-one would notice - bad Fener! And for your information I don't give two hoots about Korlat. Come up with a case and I'll change my vote, but 'I have an instinct' isn't a case or a defence.

All I have done is reflect your own arguments back at you and waited for a defence. You said (to paraphrase) people often make the mistake of talking about their own character/role. My point was in what way was that different to what you were doing? And how were you so sure Sil wasn't in your faction unless you are some power role yourself?

(And you have never answered the question about the arrogant I am ashamed I missed it or words to that effect.)

And why is there a big difference between what's on the first page and later on? I've been in games where players ahve been lynched precisely because of the first page.



Next!!!! I would vote for you...but, but....I just cant!!! SO, I will try and put the tag on Kess, for saying you might be "gasp!" the cult (which, yeah, Fener was in fact cult, oops!)

View PostRuse, on Jun 8 2009, 06:05 PM, said:

The meeting was longer and far more boring than anticipated, so I am behind with everything this evening.

Tell you what Fener, I would love to vote for you today if only for the fact you are such a cocksure pain, regrettably for me that's not a strong enough reason. My case on you yesterday was weak, but it was as good as it could be with the information available and for me it was the best one on the table. Whilst, your case that I was recruited flies just as well as…well pigs do - no offence! OMGUS all bar the vote.

And if you must know I am willing to vote Kesso, if only for his argument that you would be a good recruit for the cult. I mean that makes no sense, it's even worse than your argument on me! You were a breath away from a lynch, the recruiter would be nuts to do that - and even if he were then to my mind it's the recruiter we want not some ineffectual (in terms of power) know all…no offence again :lol: . Who would want to divert attention on to a 'suspected' recruit more than the recruiter?…After all he knows who he has turned.

@Liosan - I said yesterday that I would vote for Korlat if there was a case. Same thing today, in fact if you read my posts from earlier today (instead of relying on selective memory) you will see I raised him as a possible contender, and he remains my likely candidate for today, except for my concerns about Kessobahn as above.


BUT WAIT!!! THERES MORE!!!! FENER HAS 5 THATS RIGHT F-I-V-E votes and Kess has 2, 2 votes, Fener is L-3....Kess is L-6

View PostFener, on Jun 9 2009, 03:15 AM, said:

well then, I'd rather there's a valid candidate other than me, and considering the basis for lynching me, both Korlat and Kesso should be better choices.Remove votevote Kessobahn



and then

View PostRuse, on Jun 9 2009, 03:25 AM, said:

Here only briefly I'm afraid.

vote Kessobahn

for the reasons I gave before, and because the vote on Korlat seems to have stalled.



3 hours left in the day, and you Vote Kess, not Fener tough, not the one with more votes, that you say you "attacked"?

Thats enough for me

Vote Ruse

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:13 AM

View PostRuse, on Jun 9 2009, 01:42 PM, said:

@Korv - I didn't like my drive by either, but RL happens and I had no time to post anything more. I had explained my reasons the night before and knew I wouldn't be back before day timed out. The Korlat vote wasn't going anywhere, but from what people who know the books are saying, Carnival looks like bad news, so that's good.

On to other things. Much to my dismay (believe me I would love a solid reason to lynch him, his bossiness gets right up my nose) I believe Fener's reveal, which means my only other reason to vote for him, at this time, is that he might have been recruited. That could very well be true, but I still find it unlikely - he was still up for a lynch, so why would the recruiter risk it? We seem to be assuming that only ineffectual roles can be recruited, but we don't know that for sure, so why waste time recruiting someone that could be lynched the next day? That said, I don't have any other ideas at the moment and if nothing else comes up I will be glad of an excuse to get rid :p . I hope to have more time in about 2 - 3 hours and I will have another read through then.

Edit: Cross post



Heres more...attacking...no wait, thats not attacking!

View PostRuse, on Jun 9 2009, 06:06 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on Jun 9 2009, 07:12 PM, said:

View PostGamelon, on Jun 9 2009, 12:03 PM, said:

Ok Tennes this is getting annoying. You have almost no posts, suggesting you're coasting, and since you've come back you've made 3-4 posts that do nothing but complain about how we're trying to read into character names for ideas about potential allegiances. Absolutely nothing regarding the game itself.

I'm out for a bit...I'll drop a vote to put some pressure until he actually contributes something.

vote Tennes

Haha, can you be more obvious?

Hey, I'm finally able to be on and comment on your crazy stuff, and now I'm suddenly coasting - that's just nice, real nice. I had an opinion on the book obsession, and Fener asked about it, and I clarified. You can't seriously mean that is complaining - it's called playing the game, in case you forgot. :D

I still think it's dangerous to believe anything anyone says about the books implicitly, unless you can read it yourself. I'd chalk down the incessant book discussion to spam, if I wasn't afraid you'd smack me in the face. Oooh, I'm sooo scaaared.


I agree with this. I was (as I have said) grateful for the run down provided by Korlat, and Fener has seemingly added to our knowledge, but just as I argued in my case against Korlat, it shouldn't make anyone necessary. And we certainly can't take any of the information as gospel.

But other than Game and Tennes having their handbags drawn at dawn, I'm not sure what to think. I have to assume that Game and Fener are in a faction (unless of course Rashan's other intriguing scenario is right?), but then it seems equally clear that Tennes and Rashan are also buddies (possibly Korv as well...or it could just be that he and Rashan went to the same 'I'll read only the bits I want to' school - yes I do bear grudges :p ), so what does that prove?

Meh, there's still plenty of time. I am useless at maths so have no idea how close D Day is, but I guess the next lynch will be significant so I am not rushing to vote.





Edit: Meant to add I'm off to bed now. :lol: :p


And while I "the great Rashan!" was pushing Fener like theres no tomorrow...you try and link me and Tennes together, because we are trying so hard to lynch FENER!!!!


In closing, you just lied, I want to see your quote where you voted for Fener...in fact you have only voted once the whole game, it was for Kessobahn. Shown above

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:15 AM

what?

dude, he voted for Fener Day 2.

Second vote, I believe.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:18 AM

View PostLiosan, on Jun 11 2009, 08:15 PM, said:

what?

dude, he voted for Fener Day 2.

Second vote, I believe.


yeah, I missed that. Doesn't matter, read the posts, he changed, could have been a recruit.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:19 AM

that is, not to say he didn't also act against lynching fener several times, but you've gotta acknowledge all the facts.

edit: cross-post

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:21 AM

Yeah, I just missed a scroll down on the posts (I didn't read the whole thread again)

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:28 AM

hmm
I'm willing to go for Ruse, but I would also like to get rid of some low-posters.

i'll wait for input from others.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:53 AM

I am here briefly. Decentish case there by Rashan, but as Lio says, Ruse did vote Fener right at the beginning of the day. Doesnt gel completely with him being recruited the night before. Also you havent really distinguished between what happened day two and what happened day three. Day three is really where I think we should be looking - it's more than likely Cult were on the Kesso train.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 12:57 AM

Rash's case IS based largely on day 3...

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:16 AM

Off to bed, I'll go for Ruse or Telas, either way, but Ruse would be first for me, as he has been inconsistent. Telas is just a no show, and probably should ask for the mod kill if he isn't going to play.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:16 AM

Unless he is cult, hmmm

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:18 AM

It is Day 6. 34 hours and 50 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night

1 vote for Telas: ( Liosan )
1 vote for Ruse: ( Rashan )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Meanas, Ruse, Telas, Tennes


I love TopGear.... :lol:

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:23 AM

well, to be honest, Day 3 there was lots of confusion, with 3 possible targets-Korlat, fener and Kesso.

that whole lynch was odd. I'm not sure if it was derailed , and if so, by whom.

since our killing powers are either impotent or dead, I doubt today's D-day. so, i'd like to see Telas go first, as it'll probably make the game easier for all, if it contunues beyond getting rid of the cult.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 02:23 AM

Le yawn

dead thread's dead.

why oh why did we lynch peanutbutta?

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 02:30 AM

View PostLiosan, on Jun 11 2009, 09:23 PM, said:

well, to be honest, Day 3 there was lots of confusion, with 3 possible targets-Korlat, fener and Kesso.

that whole lynch was odd. I'm not sure if it was derailed , and if so, by whom.

since our killing powers are either impotent or dead, I doubt today's D-day. so, i'd like to see Telas go first, as it'll probably make the game easier for all, if it contunues beyond getting rid of the cult.

Meh, whichever,

Vote Telas

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