[Liosan]

lol, i'm afraid you're only imagining to read between the lines.

besides, I do have the absolute proof that i'm not cult--I don't have the appropriate PM in my inbox, lol.

[Tennes]

Liosan, on Jun 12 2009, 04:48 PM, said:

lol, i'm afraid you're only imagining to read between the lines.

besides, I do have the absolute proof that i'm not cult--I don't have the appropriate PM in my inbox, lol.

Exactly the thing a cultist would say.

[Liosan]

rofl
and what, pray tell, would a non-cultist say?

look, this ain't my first game. I know perfectly well that there's no good answer to questions such as "are you scum" or "are you cult"

so, let's dispense with the needless pleasantries.
Bottom line--you have a gut feeling i'm cult, without any proof. I'm sorry, but I have no intention of wasting my time trying to make you think otherwise. '
when you find some facts about my behaviour that point to me being in cult--make a case.
but don't disguise your gut feeling as a "case", because I will continue to bash it, and accuse you of strawmanning, untill you get a factual case going.

[Tennes]

Well then maybe we should just agree to disagree. haha.

[Liosan]

meh, I'm not trying to convince you--since I believe you're just doing what your master wants you to, what's the point?

The objective of the above discourse is to show to those who haven't yet voted how feeble the reasoning behind the two votes on me is.

[Emurlahn]

Well, now that Tennes admits the case is based on his 'gut' and has no proof, that blows the Lio option right out the door.

Interesting that Rashan had a vote on you, too, Liosan, but then went after Ruse, now Telas. Why the hell would he be doing that? Throwing votes and accusations around? Uncertainty? Fishing for reactions to find lines and where they are drawn? We've had two lynches come back as Mesmerist, right? The Mesmersist, actually, but whatever. We are now in Day Six. Assuming one recruit per night that still leaves three cultists. I, however, am starting to believe that the recruiter(s) has(have) been killed. Hence why nothing is building - they have no certainty (the recruits, that is), no single point of assurance to hold to.

And I think that some leaders (like maybe Rashan?) have decided this as well. Because that's the way he's playing now - for factions rather than against cult.

[Rashan]

Emurlahn, on Jun 12 2009, 07:47 PM, said:

Well, now that Tennes admits the case is based on his 'gut' and has no proof, that blows the Lio option right out the door.

Interesting that Rashan had a vote on you, too, Liosan, but then went after Ruse, now Telas. Why the hell would he be doing that? Throwing votes and accusations around? Uncertainty? Fishing for reactions to find lines and where they are drawn? We've had two lynches come back as Mesmerist, right? The Mesmersist, actually, but whatever. We are now in Day Six. Assuming one recruit per night that still leaves three cultists. I, however, am starting to believe that the recruiter(s) has(have) been killed. Hence why nothing is building - they have no certainty (the recruits, that is), no single point of assurance to hold to.

And I think that some leaders (like maybe Rashan?) have decided this as well. Because that's the way he's playing now - for factions rather than against cult.

You got that backwards my friend, I went, Liosan (who I still think is your leader), to Telas, because he hasn't been around and would be a perfect candidate for cult, to Ruse, for being so dramatic in his defense. My case on him as a recruit is stronger with the Fener vote, then subsequent belief of Fener's reveal. No idea where you are getting that I am faction hunting, were that the case, I would be voting Lio, since I think hes a leader.

Also not sure how you guys are buying into anything Ruse says, its obvious hes scummy, yes, its a merc game, but cult would act scummy, and Ruse is being way to obvious. See also his OMGUS case on HP. Also, I dislike how you say I am looking at factions right now, instead of cult, when Ruse and your leader Lio have tried to link everyone together, instead of lynching the 3 who weren't on the trains of cultists. I don't care who we lynch out of Telas,Ruse and Driss, IMO they all need to go, to hell with the teams until then.

[Meanas]

Hi guys, just finished dinner.

Liosan, on Jun 12 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

oh, for the record.
Tennes is a lying scum, laugh.gif

i went over the whole "Fener lynched-night-Gamelon lynch sequence"

my last post was around midnight Wednesday, my time.

my NEXT post, was around 1:40 PM Thursday, and I laughed and voted Gamelon, as I said I would, before night was even over

so, don't give this BS that "you voted him after I've made a bunch of posts calling you out to vote him"

I said i would vote him on the night of Fener's lynch. I didn't place a vote right away, b/c I don't like ot place a vote overnight, if the day has just begun.
I had stuff to take care of yesterday morning, when i got back, I voted gamelon, like I said i would--because regardless of motives he caused a ton of WIFOM with his reveal as a recruitable symp, and lynching him was the correct course of action.

Having gone over this sequence myself, what I see is Tennes making noises about being suspicious of Liosan, and then a few posts later Liosan coming on and dropping a vote on Gamelon. I can't seem to find a post where you said you were going to do that as soon as you next got on. I'll give you a chance to prove me wrong, but if you can't show me wrong, then I'm forced to conclude that you are desperately trying to cover your ass and thus deserve a vote from me.

Crosspost with Emu and Rash.

This post has been edited by Meanas: 13 June 2009 - 12:02 AM

[Emurlahn]

Meanas, scroll up. Liosan already quoted his post from the night before.

@Rashan, that's funny, you were saying to Ruse a while ago that you weren't voting for him but for Telas...

[Meanas]

Emurlahn, on Jun 12 2009, 08:07 PM, said:

Meanas, scroll up. Liosan already quoted his post from the night before.

@Rashan, that's funny, you were saying to Ruse a while ago that you weren't voting for him but for Telas...

Ah, I saw that one, but didn't interpret it as an "I will definitely vote for you tomorrow" type statement. Liosan should take care to explain himself better in the future, because to be honest it still looks like he was responding to Tennes' pressure there to me. And it wouldn't have done if he had said something like "As per my argument yesterday".

Meh, I'll give him a pass on it for now. To be honest I'm not averse to getting rid of any of the mentioned names today, but if I were to go on gut I'd be going with Liosan. I can't quite put my finger on why he feels dangerous though.

[Liosan]

Menas, I said I believed Gamelon would have to go the night after Fener lynch--I didn't say the magic words "because you are cult", but I said he had to go, because his reveal as recruitable symp would open a can of WIFOM that'd only get resolved with his death.

then I had a couple of night posts complaining about how the night was boring, etc.
then Venge announced morning and went to bed.
I commented on lack of deaths, and went to bed without voting, because there was plenty of time to vote.

I got back to the thread at 1 PM, and immidiately, I voted Game. I said "for opening up that can of worms", referring to the WIFOM I was talking about the night before.

EDIT: cross-post.

This post has been edited by Liosan: 13 June 2009 - 12:21 AM

[Liosan]

also: Meanas, if I was playing gut, i'd be voting for you for the last 3 days, because everytime you post I feel i'm missing something.

however, I'm not playing gut.
which is why i'm sticking with my vote.

[Meanas]

Liosan, on Jun 12 2009, 08:23 PM, said:

also: Meanas, if I was playing gut, i'd be voting for you for the last 3 days, because everytime you post I feel i'm missing something.

however, I'm not playing gut.
which is why i'm sticking with my vote.

You've got your wallet right? Are you sure?

I am not going on gut either, which is why I haven't voted for you. Was just making an observation.

[Liosan]

*checks*

Yes, I believe my wallet's in order.

[Liosan]

Anyhow, there's about 4, maybe 5 hours left before I go to bed and miss the lynch.

what are the chances any new info may come up in that time period?

[Emurlahn]

Depends who shows up online. And who does re-reads. And who says something incriminating. Or whatever.

In other words, not great. Then again, if you're around for another four or five hours, you might as well wait. XD

[Liosan]

meh, I'm around, but i'll probably slink off to watch a movie soonish

[Liosan]

Anyone seen "Pan's Labyrinth"?
Is it worth the three hours of my life?

[Emurlahn]

HELL


YES

That is all.

[Emurlahn]

Oh, and watch it in Spanish. The dubbed version is not as good.