[Tennes]

Telas, on May 21 2009, 11:39 AM, said:

D'riss, on May 21 2009, 03:34 AM, said:

I have lots of math about how it is almost certainly D-day. Everyone has talked today except Liosan and Fener. If one of them is not silenced, we probably need to see if anybody reveals guard. Problem is, UB may reveal guard and that could screw us big time.

Goin to bed, I assume the forums will be down when I wake up so I'll check the new place.

Yeah, I was hoping that someone would be silenced as it would prove I wasn't. Of course, UB may have realised this and witheld, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

A guard reveal would be good, because then we can just go with "Lynch one, Guard the other" which is a safe option.

Obviously got to consider it could be UB revealing but still.

There is also the possibility that UB tried to silence Meanas... Anyone who reveals guard would have to prove pairing to Kesso to be legit in my books. I dont see there being unpaired finders in this game and since Kesso was NK'd he wasnt scum. His reveal was a little half-hearted, but I would hope an RI wouldnt fake reveal guard, since it would cause major havoc.

Sorry, I mean unpaired guards...

This post has been edited by Tennes: 21 May 2009 - 09:50 AM

[Telas]

D'riss, on May 21 2009, 03:34 AM, said:

I have lots of math about how it is almost certainly D-day. Everyone has talked today except Liosan and Fener. If one of them is not silenced, we probably need to see if anybody reveals guard. Problem is, UB may reveal guard and that could screw us big time.

Goin to bed, I assume the forums will be down when I wake up so I'll check the new place.

If UB is alive it is DD.

Unless Meanas was UB(and why would BB kill UB?) then, it is DD.

8 players.

We don't hit BB or UB, 7.
Kill, 6.
We do hit BB, 5, BB shifts.
Kill, 4.
BB and UB still alive, Scum win.

[Liosan]

I'm here, not silenced, and not roled. on my way to work. I'm leaning towards believing telas(it pains me to say). I think game is acting way to calm for someone accused of being BB. I will get to post more when I get to work. I will hold my vote until we all come to some sort of consensus.

[Silanah]

I can only see us voting off gamlon. The odds are slightly favorable for a lynch on him.

If telas is lying then he timed it all just perfect and ill concede the victory to him no problemo.
Still waiting for the others to come on though...

Another thing is i would not be surprised if UB withheld his silencing as this would have been the best time to do so regardless of any reveals or wats happened since friday...

[Telas]

Liosan, on May 21 2009, 05:50 AM, said:

I'm here, not silenced, and not roled. on my way to work. I'm leaning towards believing telas(it pains me to say). I think game is acting way to calm for someone accused of being BB. I will get to post more when I get to work. I will hold my vote until we all come to some sort of consensus.

Well, that's interesting.

Either:

Fener is silenced.
UB witheld.

On the other hand, Fener has revealed as the vig, so that means everyone has came on and not counter revealed. Which surprises me actually, as I would expect UB to.

[Silanah]

who has not posted?

[Telas]

Silanah, on May 21 2009, 05:53 AM, said:

who has not posted?

I believe only Fener.

[Telas]

In fact, even Fener was on shortly afterwards.

I believe everyone has posted.

No one is silenced though. Can't say i'm particularly surprised.

[Silanah]

No not surprised myself...it would have been the right play by UB no matter what.

[Silanah]

im thinking that telas could have picked a better target than gamelon to fake accuse of being scum.

Ruse for instance would have been a better choice as Fener and a few others almost voted him off earlier.

[Gamelon]

Silanah, on May 21 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

im thinking that telas could have picked a better target than gamelon to fake accuse of being scum.

Ruse for instance would have been a better choice as Fener and a few others almost voted him off earlier.

Except I'm the smooth under the radar guy who has been on everyone's scumdar at some point. Sil, admit it, you had a big "I knew it!" reaction when you saw me accused. I'm not surprised he picked me at all.

@Lio, I'm calm because the only way to help everyone make the right choice is to lay it out like it actually is. As I told D'riss earlier, there is more to this reveal than playing odds on Telas' part. If you ask me, Telas seems awfully calm about me refuting his claim.

Let's hope Fener signs on soon so we can see what's what with the silencing.

[Fener]

headed to work. Not silenced. More in a couple of hours

[Telas]

Gamelon, on May 21 2009, 06:39 AM, said:

Silanah, on May 21 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

im thinking that telas could have picked a better target than gamelon to fake accuse of being scum.

Ruse for instance would have been a better choice as Fener and a few others almost voted him off earlier.

Except I'm the smooth under the radar guy who has been on everyone's scumdar at some point. Sil, admit it, you had a big "I knew it!" reaction when you saw me accused. I'm not surprised he picked me at all.

@Lio, I'm calm because the only way to help everyone make the right choice is to lay it out like it actually is. As I told D'riss earlier, there is more to this reveal than playing odds on Telas' part. If you ask me, Telas seems awfully calm about me refuting his claim.

Let's hope Fener signs on soon so we can see what's what with the silencing.

Fener had been on earlier. Read the thread.

And why wouldn't I be calm?

I know you are BB. I knew as soon as I saw my PM that you would refute it on thread. I know you are scum, and scum would obviously refute it, they're not exactly just going to admit it. Why wouldn't I be calm? I knew perfectly well you would refute it.

I have laid down my vote, and told everyone of my find. I have answered, and will answer, anyones questions. There is nothing more I can do to get you lynched.

[Silanah]

Gamelon, on May 21 2009, 11:39 AM, said:

Silanah, on May 21 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

im thinking that telas could have picked a better target than gamelon to fake accuse of being scum.

Ruse for instance would have been a better choice as Fener and a few others almost voted him off earlier.

Except I'm the smooth under the radar guy who has been on everyone's scumdar at some point. Sil, admit it, you had a big "I knew it!" reaction when you saw me accused. I'm not surprised he picked me at all.

"I knew it" has got to do with me picking you earlier, but the fact of the matter is that there are more people that were wiling to go for ruse than for yourself...so why frame you?

Im looking at the more plausible scenario here and thats what i see...

[Gamelon]

Telas, on May 21 2009, 11:45 AM, said:

Gamelon, on May 21 2009, 06:39 AM, said:

Silanah, on May 21 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

im thinking that telas could have picked a better target than gamelon to fake accuse of being scum.

Ruse for instance would have been a better choice as Fener and a few others almost voted him off earlier.

Except I'm the smooth under the radar guy who has been on everyone's scumdar at some point. Sil, admit it, you had a big "I knew it!" reaction when you saw me accused. I'm not surprised he picked me at all.

@Lio, I'm calm because the only way to help everyone make the right choice is to lay it out like it actually is. As I told D'riss earlier, there is more to this reveal than playing odds on Telas' part. If you ask me, Telas seems awfully calm about me refuting his claim.

Let's hope Fener signs on soon so we can see what's what with the silencing.

Fener had been on earlier. Read the thread.

And why wouldn't I be calm?

I know you are BB. I knew as soon as I saw my PM that you would refute it on thread. I know you are scum, and scum would obviously refute it, they're not exactly just going to admit it. Why wouldn't I be calm? I knew perfectly well you would refute it.

I have laid down my vote, and told everyone of my find. I have answered, and will answer, anyones questions. There is nothing more I can do to get you lynched.

And there's nothing more I can do to defend myself. This impasse was well constructed, so it just depends on who believes who.

No one is silenced, so that's another piece of the puzzle in place.

[Telas]

Gamelon, on May 21 2009, 06:48 AM, said:

Telas, on May 21 2009, 11:45 AM, said:

Gamelon, on May 21 2009, 06:39 AM, said:

Silanah, on May 21 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

im thinking that telas could have picked a better target than gamelon to fake accuse of being scum.

Ruse for instance would have been a better choice as Fener and a few others almost voted him off earlier.

Except I'm the smooth under the radar guy who has been on everyone's scumdar at some point. Sil, admit it, you had a big "I knew it!" reaction when you saw me accused. I'm not surprised he picked me at all.

@Lio, I'm calm because the only way to help everyone make the right choice is to lay it out like it actually is. As I told D'riss earlier, there is more to this reveal than playing odds on Telas' part. If you ask me, Telas seems awfully calm about me refuting his claim.

Let's hope Fener signs on soon so we can see what's what with the silencing.

Fener had been on earlier. Read the thread.

And why wouldn't I be calm?

I know you are BB. I knew as soon as I saw my PM that you would refute it on thread. I know you are scum, and scum would obviously refute it, they're not exactly just going to admit it. Why wouldn't I be calm? I knew perfectly well you would refute it.

I have laid down my vote, and told everyone of my find. I have answered, and will answer, anyones questions. There is nothing more I can do to get you lynched.

And there's nothing more I can do to defend myself. This impasse was well constructed, so it just depends on who believes who.

No one is silenced, so that's another piece of the puzzle in place.

Constructed?

All finds on scum come to an impasse.

The scum always refute the claim, so it just comes down to who is believed.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 22 hours and 18 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: D'riss, Fener, Gamelon, Liosan, Ruse, Silanah, Telas, Tennes

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night

1 vote for Telas: ( Gamelon )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Telas )

Players not voted: D'riss, Fener, Liosan, Ruse, Silanah, Tennes

[Gamelon]

Except that this time it's the scum making the claim! Hence "constructed". Of course I would refute it!

edit: cross post with PS, and Telas, you're not invisible.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 21 May 2009 - 10:54 AM

[Telas]

Gamelon, on May 21 2009, 06:53 AM, said:

Except that this time it's the scum making the claim! Hence "constructed". Of course I would refute it!

edit: cross post with PS, and Telas, you're not invisible.

Oops.

Yes, of course you would refute it. I am not scum. But I am not on your team. So of course you would.

Anyway, that is simply the nature of finds. The only people who know the truth are the accuser and the acussee. And neither of them can prove anything.

[Tennes]

Egh, this really isnt going to go anywhere. Noone is silenced and noone has made any kind of extra reveal, all we can do is lynch one of you two. I'm still undecided, but leaning more towards lynching Gam. In my mind it's really just one helluva cointoss, but I dont see what other options we have.