[Gamelon]

Hi, I'm here now. And Silanah, I'm your top suspect since Kesso is technically dead.

Going to look through some posts now. I was expecting more day 2 stuff to read though.

edit: cross post with telas

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 14 May 2009 - 12:49 PM

[Silanah]

Telas, on May 14 2009, 01:46 PM, said:

Just popping in before I leave again.

Silanah, Kesso is dead....

Bye again.

....oh yes, must of had a brain fart.

[Silanah]

Gamelon, on May 14 2009, 01:49 PM, said:

Hi, I'm here now. And Silanah, I'm your top suspect since Kesso is technically dead.

Going to look through some posts now. I was expecting more day 2 stuff to read though.

"technically" dead?

whats that sposed to mean ?
his heart still beating but there's no brain activity?

[Emurlahn]

Silanah, on May 14 2009, 08:51 AM, said:

Gamelon, on May 14 2009, 01:49 PM, said:

Hi, I'm here now. And Silanah, I'm your top suspect since Kesso is technically dead.

Going to look through some posts now. I was expecting more day 2 stuff to read though.

"technically" dead?

whats that sposed to mean ?
his heart still beating but there's no brain activity?

well if we have a mage of Hood's path around oh wait hes dead too lol

[Silanah]

Well i went from the bottom up on the post count list and felt

Tennes - just hasnt posted enought o get a read, yet he does voice a few good points IIRC didnt agree with just any old case.

Fener - well, he is somewhat fixated on myself, i know certain people who do that as inno and as killers alike... i cant really figure out what his problem is...or if he is scum. Dont understand his lack of being able to look at things from both inno and scum persective...
perhaps a cynic at heart? Or scum that is not bothered to try and look at more inno's to try and fabricate scum looking "cases".

Ruse - seems ok to me, questions allot of cases and definitely doesnt just go with the flow.

Gamelon - Goes with the flow, very helpful, doesn't get in anyones face. Just middle the road kinda guy....your average hide in plain sight kinda guy.

Korvalain - much of the same as gamelon but he definitely questions things/cases more.

and thats where is stopped...wasted my time looking through kessoh...bah


Vote Gamelon

Of the low posters, you seem the most agreeable guy and dont make any waves when possible.
Never really question any cases put forward and seem to liek most cases out there...an inno is allot more paranoid about any case that has been put forward than what you have been.

[Ruse]

Catching up on a few pages worth of posts now...

[Ruse]

Liosan, on May 13 2009, 10:23 PM, said:

Gamelon, on May 13 2009, 10:21 PM, said:

Ok, I'm staring at those images but I don't get it.

Dynamic. Image. Straight? My Life. Master.

If it's meant to be nuanced, I'd guess "I'm a master of dynamic image usage" ? The second picture doesn't mean anything to me though.

edit: cross post with this latest lot of images

Something to do with a hammer? Are you implying Korlat's hammer (Meanas) is related?

[Ruse]

Tennes, on May 14 2009, 07:20 AM, said:

Ok, I think Lio was trying to say that he was slienced because someone alt guessed him. Meaning we should alt guess him, figure out who has a grudge against him (or would delight in him being silenced) alt guess them and we'll find UB. Way more meta than I am capable of.

I know Driss jumped on this then off again and got into flack for it. Korv, why did you immeditaley come to the conclusion of 2 vigs? The first thing I thought when I saw the CF was that we had a vig and an NK...

Edit Lio I'm here...

Aren't meta-based guesses illegal?

edit: lol I should finish reading before making redundant points.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 14 May 2009 - 01:21 PM

[Ruse]

So, now that I've caught up:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

Yeah, that sucked

Vote Silanah

Just to watch you get all pissed again.

Oh please. Fener, a braindead monkey could've devised a better case by taking a shit. But seeing as how you're completely oblivious to reason, I'd prefer to let you keep pissing into the wind.



But so I was sitting on the bus today, telling myself I'd build a case on Kesso who struck me as odd/cruising, but of course he gets killed. We're getting into WIFOM territory here, but I'd expect the killer to avoid thinning the suspects among the group they're hiding in. And along with the fact that the killer sort of lives on (well at least they can make an inno the killer when they die) I'd actually expect not caution but a more brazen style of play.

Again, rather WIFOM here.

But I'd like to take a look at some of the higher posters. If D'riss is BB he's got some massive balls and deserves a high five, but it's doubtful. For some reason Meanas and Liosan come to mind among this group of non-low-posters. Since Liosan can't exactly defend himself, I'm going to do a reread of Meanas and see what I can come up with.

edit: grammer skillz

This post has been edited by Ruse: 14 May 2009 - 01:34 PM

[Gamelon]

Ok, I just looked through a bunch of different peoples posts. The truth is, if you eliminate the people who were were more aggressive with throwing accusations around (Driss, Telas), there isn't much to look at with ANYONE'S posts, regardless of total post count.

Emurlahn of course was handicapped on day one, but if he had enough time to post pictures for limericks, you would think he could have spotted something to make a case on today.

Silanah has been very active, but he accuses me of just agreeing with people. I seem to remember the same attack being leveled at you yourself Sil. I suppose you've made more waves though, since people leveled accusations against you.

Liosan has a high post count, but if you inspect it, it's a lot of railing against spam and spammers. After that dies down, he doesn't post very much. In fact, he's the one person who doesn't even vote.

As for lower post counters,

Ruse questions cases, but only joined a vote train rather than contribute anything original.

Fener is combative. He either likes to get under Sil's skin, or he's hiding in a low post count AND making sure he sticks out just enough.

Tennes, I got nothin', his post count is just low.

To be honest, and I know it's perhaps a little mean since he's silenced now, but Liosan's the one that's bothering me at the moment. Build up a high post count by railing against spam, which is not going to come across as scummy in and of itself, and then cruise for a while.

I know this read's like a laundrey list, but there isn't anything strong on anyone for the most part. I'm going to go back and read Lio's posts to see if there's anything else.


I'm sure this is an enormous cross post. I started writing this after Ruse's post.

Edited to add: after ruse's 1st post. I'm slow.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 14 May 2009 - 01:31 PM

[Gamelon]

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 02:26 PM, said:

So, now that I've caught up:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

Yeah, that sucked

Vote Silanah

Just to watch you get all pissed again.

Oh please. Fener, a braindead monkey could've devised a better case by taking a shit. But seeing as how you're completely oblivious to reason, I'd prefer to let you keep pissing into the wind.



But so I was sitting on the bus today, telling myself I'd build a case on Kesso who struck me as odd/cruising, but of course he gets NKed. We're getting into WIFOM territory here, but I'd expect the killer to avoid thinning the suspects among the group they're hiding in. And along with the fact that the killer sort of lives on (well at least they can make an inno the killer when they die) I'd actually expect not caution but a more brazen style of play.

Again, rather WIFOM here.

But I'd like to take a look at some of the higher posters. If D'riss is BB he's got some massive balls and deserves a high five, but it's doubtful. For some reason Meanas and Liosan come to mind among this group of non-low-posters. Since Liosan can't exactly defend himself, I'm going to do a reread of Meanas and see what I can come up with.

I'd be interested to see if you notice anything about Lio. I haven't looked at Meanas or Korv yet.

[Silanah]

Gamelon, on May 14 2009, 02:29 PM, said:

Silanah has been very active, but he accuses me of just agreeing with people. I seem to remember the same attack being leveled at you yourself Sil. I suppose you've made more waves though, since people leveled accusations against you.

Yes but that attack on myself was unfounded and actually incorrect.

how can i be agreeing with everyone while i am attacking someones (korlat) posts at the same time?
I agree with SOME....yes...but not everyone.
Thats just bullshit propaganda that fener would have you believe.

I also got into arguments with driss and rasahan right at the very beginning.

So its slightly different on your part gamelon, you never got in ANYONES face...ever...
you also never question cases put forward. Thats actually my main concern with regards to you.


edit - x post....meant for gamelon
edit2 - added quote makes more sense

This post has been edited by Silanah: 14 May 2009 - 01:47 PM

[Meanas]

So I just went through all of Ruse's 23 posts.

There is nothing there. He asks for clarification or makes joking one liners.

Quote

The forums are back! Time to sift through the spam.

Quote

Honestly I'd prefer to stay away from the pro- con- spammer argument because I think it's taking a dead horse, beating it with a club, then dismembering it and fornicating with the remnants...in other words, a moot point.

And the numbers do point in Liosan's favor. 79 posts in under 12 hours with the board down for half of that? I think that's pushing it, even if some of the limericks were genuinely clever/chuckle-worthy.

What I'd suggest is to find an alternative avenue...I'll call when I find one.

Quote

Say farewell to your hopes.

And on that note, I'm off to bed. G'night all.

Quote

@Kesso: I think he's referring to Korlat's vote.

To get my 2 cents in, I'd have to agree that while potentially useful later on, speculating now does nothing. Since PS confirmed that the silencing took place before the game began, any speculation is pure WIFOM.

Quote

Also, has everyone checked in? If so, we can more or less confirm Emur's silencing.

Quote

@Rashan, I think you need to read HD's commandments of Mafia...they're somewhere in the last game's spoiler thread. One of them reads along the lines of:

Mafia is srs business

Learn it.

There is absolutely nothing there. He dosen't say anyone is wrong, he dosen't attack anyone, he dosen't do anything except pretend to be involved.

The only 'longer' post is his last one:

Quote

Oh please. Fener, a braindead monkey could've devised a better case by taking a shit. But seeing as how you're completely oblivious to reason, I'd prefer to let you keep pissing into the wind.



But so I was sitting on the bus today, telling myself I'd build a case on Kesso who struck me as odd/cruising, but of course he gets killed. We're getting into WIFOM territory here, but I'd expect the killer to avoid thinning the suspects among the group they're hiding in. And along with the fact that the killer sort of lives on (well at least they can make an inno the killer when they die) I'd actually expect not caution but a more brazen style of play.

Again, rather WIFOM here.

But I'd like to take a look at some of the higher posters. If D'riss is BB he's got some massive balls and deserves a high five, but it's doubtful. For some reason Meanas and Liosan come to mind among this group of non-low-posters. Since Liosan can't exactly defend himself, I'm going to do a reread of Meanas and see what I can come up with.

edit: grammer skillz

Of course you are going to imply that the killers are in the posting group that you aren't. There is a lot of words there, but nothing besides wifom and what you might have intended to do.

You sure made sure you caught the Korlat train though.

[Fener]

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 09:26 AM, said:

So, now that I've caught up:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

Yeah, that sucked

Vote Silanah

Just to watch you get all pissed again.

Oh please. Fener, a braindead monkey could've devised a better case by taking a shit. But seeing as how you're completely oblivious to reason, I'd prefer to let you keep pissing into the wind.

Now, this is interesting, Silanah doesn't blow up for a bullshit vote today, but Ruse feels the need to call my case (I am assuming the one I made yesterday) bullshit. Hey, thats cool, if you don't like it, but its not bullshit to me. Using cases someone else has made and making it seem as if that case is your own is scummy. Now the vote of today however was utterly bullshit, just to see how Silanah would respond. Sil did a much better job of not getting indignant, or pissed off. But you popping in and saying the above is just silly.

[Emurlahn]

mmm the 3 that bug me are fener Meanas and Lio

>> Fener is super angry but talking so little and his arguments are nothing. it's like he's got OMGUS but noone's attacked him
>> Meanas seems like hes trying to slyly be helpful and not show his hand, dunno it's more of a gut feeling but he just seems slimy to me
>> Lio was overdoing the antispam earlier and now that Korlat suggested the bens silencing themselves he seems suspicious, they wouldnt do it day 1 because anyone could think of them doing it to themselves and it would be ovious, but day 2 were more likely to have solider arguments, but if they cant talk off thread this is not that good a case as that would be hard rto code on day 1

oh and Gam, yeah I did have some arguments from last day but being silenced is rather unmotivating so i didn't bother to write em down or save em, all invalid now they'd seem outdated and pointless

[Ruse]

Meanas, on May 12 2009, 09:41 AM, said:

Spamming in an attempt to control the game = evil.

Rashan

So, Meanas opens the game with an aggressive anti-spam stance. As much as spam can be fun from time to time, I can see where he's coming from. Somewhat inno, imo, as spam makes it easier for scum to hide.

Meanas, on May 12 2009, 11:08 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on May 12 2009, 10:04 AM, said:

Meanas, on May 12 2009, 09:59 AM, said:

Rashan, on May 12 2009, 09:57 AM, said:

Meanas, on May 12 2009, 09:53 AM, said:

So Rahsan, you have 33 posts, everyone else (including P-S) together has 18.

Why do you think it is fun for the rest of us to read through your shitty day 1 spam. Why do you think it is a good idea for the innos to random-lynch day 1? Because you are evil and want a free day 1 pass?

Also I picked up on Emu and you are hung up on not having any fun. Which one of us is playing mafia.

Try typing with both of your hands rather then your nose. killingme.gif killingme.gif


Also those limericks were funny shit.

I have fun playing the game. Not reading through asanine and infantile spam.

Do you get cranky when there are kids on your lawn or you drop your cane? Are you the guy that keep the baseball that comes over his fence?

Aww don't like that your partner Rashan is playing like a moron and you are attempting to misdirect for him? Its so cute!

Strawmans HP as Rashan's partner, and HP died last night. 1 was a vig, so...hmm. Not sure exactly what to make of this.

Meanas, on May 13 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

I also do like Feners case on Silanah more than the one on HP, but that is because I was kind of confused about how hard he was symping me at the beginning of the day.

Points out that he likes Fener's case more than the one on HP. Okay. But he's claims someone (just "he") was symping him earlier in the day, yet he's accused no one of it in a prior post. Now given that he's also accused Rashan and HP of being paired, I'll assume he means Silanah.

Meanas, on May 13 2009, 02:02 PM, said:

Wait, I forgot to code it.

Guys
At least i
Really like
Drumsticks.

After SERIOUS BUSINESS time, he starts to join in some of the spam. Hypocrite much?

Meanas, on May 13 2009, 03:43 PM, said:

Slow game is slow.

I would be willing to take out Rashan based on the WIFOM that noone ever kills the highest poster on day 1. JA monkey syndrome.

I would be willing to take out Silanah based on how he seems to be symping as many people as possible.

Anyone else have any kind of anything like cases against anyone?

Asks for people to make more cases despite making absolutely none himself. He's agreed with Fener's "case", true, but without adding anything.

Meanas, on May 13 2009, 04:49 PM, said:

Silanah, on May 13 2009, 03:42 PM, said:

I have most definitely not agreed with EVERYTHING everybody has said. And i actually think your saying that blatant unfounded lie is either you being completely narrow minded or scum trying to make me look bad. The only thing i agreed with was with tennes on the korlat post. And since when agreeing with some one scummy anyways? I find the fact that you are unwilling to see anything from my respective rather fishy.

You also seemed to be symping me pretty heavily when Rashan started the :

ISLFI.
(Idiotic Spam Like Fucktards Initiative)

Go back and take a look.

Claims that Sil was symping Rashan by being anti-spam, then...

Meanas, on May 13 2009, 05:10 PM, said:

Silanah, on May 13 2009, 04:03 PM, said:

I think potentially that one of the voters that are currently voting Or seem like they want to
Vote for rashan is scum. Its definitely the safest vote to place today. A killer would not get any questions thrown his way for voting for rashan.

So is this misdirection off you, an attempt to keep Rashan alive for another day, or just more random BS?

Oh, its a combination post!

Could your 'argument' with Rashan at the beginning have been distancing? I wonder if UB and BB can talk to each other off-thread.

changes his opinion and accuses him of distancing instead.

Meanas, on May 13 2009, 05:55 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on May 13 2009, 04:53 PM, said:

Cept Rashan came up inno...so your thinking is a little flawed there. I mean seriously did you not all know he was innocent? Pretty obvious. You just pretended so you could punish the spammer. Goodjob.

People who lurk and pretend they weren't around don't get to throw stones.

While during that entire giant clusterfuck between Telas, D'riss, and Rashan, Meanas made only 1 or 2 pertaining comments. The rest were his argument with Silanah.



In conclusion, I don't think it's particularly scummy but it certainly is really fucking annoying and helping nobody. And now he'll probably accuse me of symping Silanah, when right now it's defending someone against the most bullshit argument ever. He's throwing around accusations like they're going out of style, contradicting himself each time. I'm seeing next to nothing (like quotes, maybe? THey don't make a case but they damn well help) that supports those baseless accusations.

So over the course of the game, Meanas has:
-accused HP of symping Rashan
-agrees with Fener's case, adding nothing
-accused Silanah of symping himself
-accused Silanah of being Rashan's partner, distancing from him at the beginning
-gives HP shit when he contributed nothing to that discussion, which is effectively no different from lurking

There's minimal contribution/observations here, but his aggressive posts certainly make him seem like he's adding to the conversation.

Nothing particularly substantial here, no epiphanic slip, etc.
But his play is far from beneficial right now, and if nothing else it's pissing me off.

Accordingly,
Vote Meanas

Giant x-post probably. Started at post 712.

[Ruse]

Fener, on May 14 2009, 09:51 AM, said:

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 09:26 AM, said:

So, now that I've caught up:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

Yeah, that sucked

Vote Silanah

Just to watch you get all pissed again.

Oh please. Fener, a braindead monkey could've devised a better case by taking a shit. But seeing as how you're completely oblivious to reason, I'd prefer to let you keep pissing into the wind.

Now, this is interesting, Silanah doesn't blow up for a bullshit vote today, but Ruse feels the need to call my case (I am assuming the one I made yesterday) bullshit. Hey, thats cool, if you don't like it, but its not bullshit to me. Using cases someone else has made and making it seem as if that case is your own is scummy. Now the vote of today however was utterly bullshit, just to see how Silanah would respond. Sil did a much better job of not getting indignant, or pissed off. But you popping in and saying the above is just silly.

I have a special place in my heart for terrible arguments, especially considering how often I hear them daily.

Meanas, on May 14 2009, 09:48 AM, said:

So I just went through all of Ruse's 23 posts.

There is nothing there. He asks for clarification or makes joking one liners.

...

Of course you are going to imply that the killers are in the posting group that you aren't. There is a lot of words there, but nothing besides wifom and what you might have intended to do.

You sure made sure you caught the Korlat train though.

Nice job jumping ahead 24 hours between your last 2 quotes. I haven't been as active as I'd prefer, but I've done what I could to contribute. All you've done is antagonize.

[Silanah]

Fener, on May 14 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 09:26 AM, said:

So, now that I've caught up:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

Yeah, that sucked

Vote Silanah

Just to watch you get all pissed again.

Oh please. Fener, a braindead monkey could've devised a better case by taking a shit. But seeing as how you're completely oblivious to reason, I'd prefer to let you keep pissing into the wind.

Now, this is interesting, Silanah doesn't blow up for a bullshit vote today, but Ruse feels the need to call my case (I am assuming the one I made yesterday) bullshit. Hey, thats cool, if you don't like it, but its not bullshit to me. Using cases someone else has made and making it seem as if that case is your own is scummy. Now the vote of today however was utterly bullshit, just to see how Silanah would respond. Sil did a much better job of not getting indignant, or pissed off. But you popping in and saying the above is just silly.

You keep saying i made other peoples cases my own and thats a flat out lie!!
I merely added my own thoughts to an existing concern.

fuck sakes....it wasnt even a CASE...telas (or tennes) merely said that korlats post was doesnt make sense and is fishy.
I felt the same and elaborated on why i felt it to be weird....whats scummy in that?

You keep saying it over and over and its utter nonesense...I am allowed to my own point of view on something. Even if it is along the same lines as what someone else has already said.

[Silanah]

im getting really irritated with fener...he keeps singing the same song like a bloody love bird that doesnt know any better!

[Ruse]

Btw I gotta go in about half an hour...get your rebuttals in.