[Telas]

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:07 PM, said:

Telas, on May 13 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

I never thought Rashan was scummy. That kind of spam gets you killed off.

You were 100% certain he was innocent?

That strikes me as very odd.

I mean, in mafia, I trust some people more than others, but unless someone is definetely CI, as in definitively proved, then I am never 100% sure they are innocent.

You really thought Rashan was probably scum? I never said he wasn't scum, I said I never thought he was. Not CI, but PI and a SYMP AT BEST.

If you really thought Rashan was scum, then you are a bad player and should be lynched for hindering my inno team.
If you are scum (hint: you are), then you are lying about Rashan being probable OVERT scum. And you should be lynched for being the bad guy.

Please explain?

I am a bad player for getting something wrong?

The majority of lynches hit innocents. That means the majority of times, the majority gets things wrong.

Oh, and since when have we lynched people for getting things wrong? That's just a massive waste of a lynch. If you think they're a bad player/hindering the team, you maybe don't listen to them, but you don't waste a lynch, surely? And you call me a bad player.

I would like to lynch D'riss or HP, because only scum could be utterly certain of Rashans innocence, and D'riss seems to be grasping at straws here, with his ideas about lynching people for being wrong.

Not sure which.

D'riss strikes me immediately as more scummy, but I could well be biased here, since i've been arguing with him.
HP strikes me as massively odd, why not say anything if you're sure he's innocent, and his explanations just don't make sense.

[D'riss]

Telas, on May 13 2009, 03:12 PM, said:

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:07 PM, said:

Telas, on May 13 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

I never thought Rashan was scummy. That kind of spam gets you killed off.

You were 100% certain he was innocent?

That strikes me as very odd.

I mean, in mafia, I trust some people more than others, but unless someone is definetely CI, as in definitively proved, then I am never 100% sure they are innocent.

You really thought Rashan was probably scum? I never said he wasn't scum, I said I never thought he was. Not CI, but PI and a SYMP AT BEST.

If you really thought Rashan was scum, then you are a bad player and should be lynched for hindering my inno team.
If you are scum (hint: you are), then you are lying about Rashan being probable OVERT scum. And you should be lynched for being the bad guy.

Please explain?

I am a bad player for getting something wrong?

The majority of lynches hit innocents. That means the majority of times, the majority gets things wrong.

Oh, and since when have we lynched people for getting things wrong? That's just a massive waste of a lynch. If you think they're a bad player/hindering the team, you maybe don't listen to them, but you don't waste a lynch, surely? And you call me a bad player.

I would like to lynch D'riss or HP, because only scum could be utterly certain of Rashans innocence, and D'riss seems to be grasping at straws here, with his ideas about lynching people for being wrong.

Not sure which.

D'riss strikes me immediately as more scummy, but I could well be biased here, since i've been arguing with him.
HP strikes me as massively odd, why not say anything if you're sure he's innocent, and his explanations just don't make sense.

[Korlat]

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

Korlat, on May 13 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

Meanas, on May 13 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

I hereby state that voting off either Telas or D'riss is a mistake at this point.

I'd be happy with voting off both assholes. That ridiculous fight just forced an Inno player out of the game. Fucking brilliant.

Ahahahahaha! Of course you'd like to vote off two innocent people. Gives you two more days to blend in the crowd.

Remove Vote.
Vote Korlat

And yet I voted for neither of you, you'll note - you feel like a couple of Roleless Innos in a pissing match, and I was expressing my annoyance. I'm sure you've both alted one another, and have some grudges to work out from previous games, or some other such shit that has nothing to do with the fucking game.

Your streak of brilliance continues.

And this is the second time you've voted me, simply because I stated the obvious. I'm convinced that two of the people on my train are the scum, simply because of how quickly they scurried over to vote on nothing, like roaches.

I'm not sure we've even heard back from a couple of them.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 3 hours and 20 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Ruse, Silanah, Telas, Tennes

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night

1 vote for Meanas: ( Silanah )
4 votes for Korlat: ( Emurlahn, Korvalain, Gamelon, D'riss )
3 votes for Silanah: ( Fener, Hood's Path, Meanas )

Players not voted: Kessobahn, Korlat, Liosan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

D'riss said:

Path-Shaper, you forgot that Rashan voted for Telas. I think we should honor Venge's wishes posthumously with his lynch vote.

My initial response was going to be 'Dead Men Tell No Tales', but it doesn't quite fit. So maybe 'Dead Men Throw No Stones'?


Sir Thursday

[D'riss]

Can nobody else seriously see Korlat's huge slip?

[Telas]

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:09 PM, said:

Korlat, on May 13 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

Meanas, on May 13 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

I hereby state that voting off either Telas or D'riss is a mistake at this point.

I'd be happy with voting off both assholes. That ridiculous fight just forced an Inno player out of the game. Fucking brilliant.

Ahahahahaha! Of course you'd like to vote off two innocent people. Gives you two more days to blend in the crowd.

Remove Vote.
Vote Korlat

Odd, I thought you were sure I was scum?

That's a very sudden change of opinion.

As for korlat, I wouldn't mind voting him off, I said i'd be happy to earlier, and I generally dislike people who come in after the event and throw accusations. It just a scummy thing to do. It tries to make the player look more innocent, as they take the side of the innocent(in this case Rashan) and attack the people who were against them. It's a very easy position to take, as they weren't there at the time, and keeps attentionw ell away from them.
HP also falls into that category.

[Korlat]

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

Can nobody else seriously see Korlat's huge slip?

Point it out.

You've been so on the mark so far.

[Korlat]

Telas, on May 13 2009, 03:16 PM, said:

As for korlat, I wouldn't mind voting him off, I said i'd be happy to earlier, and I generally dislike people who come in after the event and throw accusations. It just a scummy thing to do.

That may have something to do with the fact that I wasn't sitting in front of the computer for that entire tantrum you both threw.

Some of us have lives, and can only come in and comment afterwards.

[D'riss]

Telas. You are innocent. Defensive as hell, but innocent. Maybe.

You gave me all the tools I needed for a scum to throw around some words and slip up. Korlat was that scum. Time for him to go night-night.

[Kessobahn]

At this point I am willing to vote off D'riss, for the following reasons:
He's confrontational for no good reason, making innos cry, forcing a reaction from Telas that he then can call scummy. Any reaction is not scummy per default, and if you are gonna be confrontational, you have to be constructive about it. The way I read it D'riss saw his chance when Telas voted for Rashan, someone he knew was inno, and called him out for it, being a dick until Telas exploded.
That plus his outright refusal to answer questions, plus now he's hopping on another train seemingly for convenience, since he's been screaming that Telas is scum for pages now.

vote D'riss


Edit: cross post with D'riss - wtf!
Edit: So you have been sure Telas is scum for ages, and now when you get some heat for it, you switch just like that? WTF!

This post has been edited by Kessobahn: 13 May 2009 - 10:20 PM

[Telas]

Even so, coming in and attacking the people simply for being wrong really isn't the most constructive thing to do. Simply being wrong certainly does not mean scum.

Edit: @korlat

This post has been edited by Telas: 13 May 2009 - 10:20 PM

[Korlat]

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

Telas. You are innocent. Defensive as hell, but innocent. Maybe.

You gave me all the tools I needed for a scum to throw around some words and slip up. Korlat was that scum. Time for him to go night-night.

... completely content-free.

[Telas]

Korlat, on May 13 2009, 06:19 PM, said:

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

Telas. You are innocent. Defensive as hell, but innocent. Maybe.

You gave me all the tools I needed for a scum to throw around some words and slip up. Korlat was that scum. Time for him to go night-night.

... completely content-free.

Was that your post or D'riss' you were talking about?

[Korlat]

Telas, on May 13 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

Even so, coming in and attacking the people simply for being wrong really isn't the most constructive thing to do. Simply being wrong certainly does not mean scum.

It just reminds me too much of that idiotic PM-clusterfuck from the last game.

Being involved in that made me look bad ... and now you're saying not being involved in this pile of shit makes me look bad. No-win situation for me, you're saying?

[Korlat]

Telas, on May 13 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

Korlat, on May 13 2009, 06:19 PM, said:

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

Telas. You are innocent. Defensive as hell, but innocent. Maybe.

You gave me all the tools I needed for a scum to throw around some words and slip up. Korlat was that scum. Time for him to go night-night.

... completely content-free.

Was that your post or D'riss' you were talking about?

His.

He seems to think I've been convicted of being scum based on some irrefutable evidence ... without presenting any.

He was pretty convinced about you, too.

D'riss seems really, really quick to scream over and over that someone's scum, without trying to explain why.

[Telas]

No, the problem isn't that you weren't involved. The problem is that you came on after the event and started throwing accusations about it then. "Easy for you to say" I suppose, being the view on it, and it is. It's an easy, innocent looking, position for scum to take. Since you weren't there, we don't know whether or not you would've defended the innocent, but it's easy to ocme on and side with the innocent after the CF. So it kinda looks bad.

[D'riss]

Korlat, on May 13 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

Telas. You are innocent. Defensive as hell, but innocent. Maybe.

You gave me all the tools I needed for a scum to throw around some words and slip up. Korlat was that scum. Time for him to go night-night.

... completely content-free.

LOL, let's check this out:

Korlat, on May 13 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

Meanas, on May 13 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

I hereby state that voting off either Telas or D'riss is a mistake at this point.

I'd be happy with voting off both assholes. That ridiculous fight just forced an Inno player out of the game. Fucking brilliant.

You flat out stated you want there to be four less players in the game. Two votes, two NKs. With 14 people currently in the game.

You slipped up man. You got in the middle of my yammering and slipped up.

[Hood's Path]

Telas, on May 13 2009, 03:12 PM, said:

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:07 PM, said:

Telas, on May 13 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

D'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

I never thought Rashan was scummy. That kind of spam gets you killed off.

You were 100% certain he was innocent?

That strikes me as very odd.

I mean, in mafia, I trust some people more than others, but unless someone is definetely CI, as in definitively proved, then I am never 100% sure they are innocent.

You really thought Rashan was probably scum? I never said he wasn't scum, I said I never thought he was. Not CI, but PI and a SYMP AT BEST.

If you really thought Rashan was scum, then you are a bad player and should be lynched for hindering my inno team.
If you are scum (hint: you are), then you are lying about Rashan being probable OVERT scum. And you should be lynched for being the bad guy.

Please explain?

I am a bad player for getting something wrong?

The majority of lynches hit innocents. That means the majority of times, the majority gets things wrong.

Oh, and since when have we lynched people for getting things wrong? That's just a massive waste of a lynch. If you think they're a bad player/hindering the team, you maybe don't listen to them, but you don't waste a lynch, surely? And you call me a bad player.

I would like to lynch D'riss or HP, because only scum could be utterly certain of Rashans innocence, and D'riss seems to be grasping at straws here, with his ideas about lynching people for being wrong.

Not sure which.

D'riss strikes me immediately as more scummy, but I could well be biased here, since i've been arguing with him.
HP strikes me as massively odd, why not say anything if you're sure he's innocent, and his explanations just don't make sense.

What doesn't make sense? The dude was at L-5. I'm certainly not nor is there anyway to stop him for asking for a modkill. This is mafia, direct actions often elicit the exact opposite reaction you want, I didn't vote for Rashan, I voted for Silanah that's about as much defense as I'm willing to commit to someone at L-5. Come on really though, did you expect him to turn up scum? Really? Just like that BB implodes day 1?

[D'riss]

Kessobahn, on May 13 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

At this point I am willing to vote off D'riss, for the following reasons:
He's confrontational for no good reason, making innos cry, forcing a reaction from Telas that he then can call scummy. Any reaction is not scummy per default, and if you are gonna be confrontational, you have to be constructive about it. The way I read it D'riss saw his chance when Telas voted for Rashan, someone he knew was inno, and called him out for it, being a dick until Telas exploded.
That plus his outright refusal to answer questions, plus now he's hopping on another train seemingly for convenience, since he's been screaming that Telas is scum for pages now.

vote D'riss


Edit: cross post with D'riss - wtf!
Edit: So you have been sure Telas is scum for ages, and now when you get some heat for it, you switch just like that? WTF!

I doubted Telas was ever scum. I just talked incessantly until someone opened his mouth and slipped up. Now Korlat gets to go home.

[Kessobahn]

I'm off for a while.