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#541 User is offline   D'riss 

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:58 PM

View PostTelas, on May 13 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

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View PostTelas, on May 13 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

Votes have to be bolded.

Oh, and of course you wouldn't say you voted me for voting Rashan.

Admitting that would be obviously scummy.

"Vote Telas for Voting Rashan" would basically be saying "Vote Telas for voting someone else" which implies you think voting them is bad, so it's basically saying "Vote telas for voting my master".

Of course you wouldn't say that was the reason you voted me.


FRIENDS. THIS IS WHY I DO NOT RESPOND TO SCUM. THEY FAKE LIKE YOU ARE LYING.

Eh?

Can you not tell the difference between a hypothetical situation, and me saying that you actually said something?

Also, this is mafia. Do you just expect everyone to believe everything 100% at face value? Of course I consider the possibility of lies. I consider the possibility of anyone lying. Because someone is scum, and that someone will be lying. Since we don't know who is scum, we don't know who is lying. So you obviously can't just assume taht people are telling the truth.


Correct except for two parts.

1) I know that I'm telling the truth and by extension
2) You are either way wrong or way lying. In either case, it's worth a trip to the gallows for you.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:58 PM

Kess, where the fuck are you?

Where do you get that D'riss said Rashan was scummy? Ever?

Because if it happened, I missed it. Utterly.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:59 PM

View PostHood's Path, on May 13 2009, 05:53 PM, said:

Cept Rashan came up inno...so your thinking is a little flawed there. I mean seriously did you not all know he was innocent? Pretty obvious. You just pretended so you could punish the spammer. Goodjob.


I was referring to a point before CF, before we knew he was innocent.

Oh, and if it was so blatantly obvious to you he was innocent, did it not occur to you that it would be a good idea to explain to everyone else why? Since it wasn't so obvious to us.

I play by who I think is scum. Not who irritates me most. I was attacking him because I thought he was scum, not for some sort of "punishment" against spammers.

And now you come on, after the death, and start going for people?

Nice timing...

#544 User is offline   D'riss 

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:00 PM

I never thought Rashan was scummy. That kind of spam gets you killed off.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:00 PM

I still think we should look at the rash train as it would have been a pretty safe place to leave your vote today. Thats what i think. And im off to bed. You guys type too fast for my poor phoney ericsson

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:00 PM

It is Day 1. 3 hours and 33 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Ruse, Silanah, Telas, Tennes

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night

1 vote for Meanas: ( Silanah )
1 vote for Telas: ( D'riss )
3 votes for Korlat: ( Emurlahn, Korvalain, Gamelon )
3 votes for Silanah: ( Fener, Hood's Path, Meanas )

Players not voted: Kessobahn, Korlat, Liosan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#547 User is offline   D'riss 

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:01 PM

Path-Shaper, you forgot that Rashan voted for Telas. I think we should honor Venge's wishes posthumously with his lynch vote.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:01 PM

View PostD'riss, on May 13 2009, 05:58 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on May 13 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

View PostD'riss, on May 13 2009, 05:52 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on May 13 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

Votes have to be bolded.

Oh, and of course you wouldn't say you voted me for voting Rashan.

Admitting that would be obviously scummy.

"Vote Telas for Voting Rashan" would basically be saying "Vote Telas for voting someone else" which implies you think voting them is bad, so it's basically saying "Vote telas for voting my master".

Of course you wouldn't say that was the reason you voted me.


FRIENDS. THIS IS WHY I DO NOT RESPOND TO SCUM. THEY FAKE LIKE YOU ARE LYING.

Eh?

Can you not tell the difference between a hypothetical situation, and me saying that you actually said something?

Also, this is mafia. Do you just expect everyone to believe everything 100% at face value? Of course I consider the possibility of lies. I consider the possibility of anyone lying. Because someone is scum, and that someone will be lying. Since we don't know who is scum, we don't know who is lying. So you obviously can't just assume taht people are telling the truth.


Correct except for two parts.

1) I know that I'm telling the truth and by extension
2) You are either way wrong or way lying. In either case, it's worth a trip to the gallows for you.


That logic is completely fail. Firstly, scum know who scum is. BB knows he is BB. Therefore, he knows who is innocent. So, the only people certain never to be wrong about what a CF will be are scum. Lynching people for being wrong is a completely fail idea. It takes 8 to lynch. The chances of only lynching scum are minimal. 8 people lynch. That means 8 people were wrong. So, is it worth a trip to the gallows for all of them. Being wrong does not equal scum.

That's like saying:

I know I am innocent.
By extension, anyone who thinks I am scum is either wrong or scum. And therefore should be lynched.

Doesn't work.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:01 PM

View PostMeanas, on May 13 2009, 02:57 PM, said:

Day 1 is still happening and I certainly didn't see you on claiming that Rashan was inno until after the CF...


Why would I? He made his own bed, he can lay in it, nothing I'm going to say would have changed that other than to muddy the waters cause you all would call out symp symp symp. But, really did you think he was anything other than innocent in your heart of hearts? Don't lie, people wanted to see the spammer punished and they got their wish. Like I said goodjob. <---that is blatant sarcasm in case you can't infer well either.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:03 PM

View PostMeanas, on May 13 2009, 05:58 PM, said:

Kess, where the fuck are you?

Where do you get that D'riss said Rashan was scummy? Ever?

Because if it happened, I missed it. Utterly.

Bah, I went looking for it, and I must have read the quote tags wrong and assumed a Telas quote was a D'riss quote. So scratch whatever I said.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:03 PM

I hereby state that voting off either Telas or D'riss is a mistake at this point.

That is, of course, my opinion.

I don't like the 'case' on Korlat, I think Silanah is playing odd, but he left for bed so I guess im scum if I go for him with only 3 hours left.

HP showing up and casting stones seems quite weird to me. Anyone else have some thoughts?

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:03 PM

View PostD'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

I never thought Rashan was scummy. That kind of spam gets you killed off.


You were 100% certain he was innocent?

That strikes me as very odd.

I mean, in mafia, I trust some people more than others, but unless someone is definetely CI, as in definitively proved, then I am never 100% sure they are innocent.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:04 PM

View PostTelas, on May 13 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

View PostD'riss, on May 13 2009, 05:58 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on May 13 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

View PostD'riss, on May 13 2009, 05:52 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on May 13 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

Votes have to be bolded.

Oh, and of course you wouldn't say you voted me for voting Rashan.

Admitting that would be obviously scummy.

"Vote Telas for Voting Rashan" would basically be saying "Vote Telas for voting someone else" which implies you think voting them is bad, so it's basically saying "Vote telas for voting my master".

Of course you wouldn't say that was the reason you voted me.


FRIENDS. THIS IS WHY I DO NOT RESPOND TO SCUM. THEY FAKE LIKE YOU ARE LYING.

Eh?

Can you not tell the difference between a hypothetical situation, and me saying that you actually said something?

Also, this is mafia. Do you just expect everyone to believe everything 100% at face value? Of course I consider the possibility of lies. I consider the possibility of anyone lying. Because someone is scum, and that someone will be lying. Since we don't know who is scum, we don't know who is lying. So you obviously can't just assume taht people are telling the truth.


Correct except for two parts.

1) I know that I'm telling the truth and by extension
2) You are either way wrong or way lying. In either case, it's worth a trip to the gallows for you.


That logic is completely fail. Firstly, scum know who scum is. BB knows he is BB. Therefore, he knows who is innocent. So, the only people certain never to be wrong about what a CF will be are scum. Lynching people for being wrong is a completely fail idea. It takes 8 to lynch. The chances of only lynching scum are minimal. 8 people lynch. That means 8 people were wrong. So, is it worth a trip to the gallows for all of them. Being wrong does not equal scum.

That's like saying:

I know I am innocent.
By extension, anyone who thinks I am scum is either wrong or scum. And therefore should be lynched.

Doesn't work.


I would agree except for you forgot one important detail:

You are scum.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:05 PM

If anyone between Telas and D'riss is scum, it's D'riss, since if he's scum he obviously knew that Rashan was inno and therefore was safe to defend.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:06 PM

View PostHood's Path, on May 13 2009, 06:01 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on May 13 2009, 02:57 PM, said:

Day 1 is still happening and I certainly didn't see you on claiming that Rashan was inno until after the CF...


Why would I? He made his own bed, he can lay in it, nothing I'm going to say would have changed that other than to muddy the waters cause you all would call out symp symp symp. But, really did you think he was anything other than innocent in your heart of hearts? Don't lie, people wanted to see the spammer punished and they got their wish. Like I said goodjob. <---that is blatant sarcasm in case you can't infer well either.

What?

What kind of innocent play is that?

Mafia is a team game. If you think someone is innocent, if you are as sure as you claim to be, surely you try and stop them being lynched? Also, there is 1 symp. If more than one person defends someone, they can't both be called symp. Are you worried about being called symp perhaps?

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:06 PM

View PostD'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:04 PM, said:

I would agree except for you forgot one important detail:

You are scum.


I'm fairly sure that saying things over and over again does not make them true.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:07 PM

View PostTelas, on May 13 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

View PostD'riss, on May 13 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

I never thought Rashan was scummy. That kind of spam gets you killed off.


You were 100% certain he was innocent?

That strikes me as very odd.

I mean, in mafia, I trust some people more than others, but unless someone is definetely CI, as in definitively proved, then I am never 100% sure they are innocent.


You really thought Rashan was probably scum? I never said he wasn't scum, I said I never thought he was. Not CI, but PI and a SYMP AT BEST.

If you really thought Rashan was scum, then you are a bad player and should be lynched for hindering my inno team.
If you are scum (hint: you are), then you are lying about Rashan being probable OVERT scum. And you should be lynched for being the bad guy.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:07 PM

View PostMeanas, on May 13 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

I hereby state that voting off either Telas or D'riss is a mistake at this point.



I'd be happy with voting off both assholes. That ridiculous fight just forced an Inno player out of the game. Fucking brilliant.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:09 PM

View PostTelas, on May 13 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

View PostHood's Path, on May 13 2009, 06:01 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on May 13 2009, 02:57 PM, said:

Day 1 is still happening and I certainly didn't see you on claiming that Rashan was inno until after the CF...


Why would I? He made his own bed, he can lay in it, nothing I'm going to say would have changed that other than to muddy the waters cause you all would call out symp symp symp. But, really did you think he was anything other than innocent in your heart of hearts? Don't lie, people wanted to see the spammer punished and they got their wish. Like I said goodjob. <---that is blatant sarcasm in case you can't infer well either.

What?

What kind of innocent play is that?

Mafia is a team game. If you think someone is innocent, if you are as sure as you claim to be, surely you try and stop them being lynched? Also, there is 1 symp. If more than one person defends someone, they can't both be called symp. Are you worried about being called symp perhaps?


He wasn't in that much danger of being lynched, he played the modkill me game. BIG Difference!

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 10:09 PM

View PostKorlat, on May 13 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on May 13 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

I hereby state that voting off either Telas or D'riss is a mistake at this point.



I'd be happy with voting off both assholes. That ridiculous fight just forced an Inno player out of the game. Fucking brilliant.


Ahahahahaha! Of course you'd like to vote off two innocent people. Gives you two more days to blend in the crowd.

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