[Fener]

And how the hell is presenting a case hurting us? I will wait for a response. Also Ruse, thats a shitty thing to say, would you rather I just merrily BAAA my way through the game, and follow your lead, which, consequently is totally OMGUS, by the way.

[Ruse]

Fener, on May 14 2009, 10:37 AM, said:

Silanah, on May 14 2009, 09:01 AM, said:

Well i went from the bottom up on the post count list and felt

Tennes - just hasnt posted enought o get a read, yet he does voice a few good points IIRC didnt agree with just any old case.

Fener - well, he is somewhat fixated on myself, i know certain people who do that as inno and as killers alike... i cant really figure out what his problem is...or if he is scum. Dont understand his lack of being able to look at things from both inno and scum persective...
perhaps a cynic at heart? Or scum that is not bothered to try and look at more inno's to try and fabricate scum looking "cases".

Ruse - seems ok to me, questions allot of cases and definitely doesnt just go with the flow.

Gamelon - Goes with the flow, very helpful, doesn't get in anyones face. Just middle the road kinda guy....your average hide in plain sight kinda guy.

Korvalain - much of the same as gamelon but he definitely questions things/cases more.

and thats where is stopped...wasted my time looking through kessoh...bah


Vote Gamelon

Of the low posters, you seem the most agreeable guy and dont make any waves when possible.
Never really question any cases put forward and seem to liek most cases out there...an inno is allot more paranoid about any case that has been put forward than what you have been.

I gotta say, Im leaning more with Meanas than against him. In the quote above Sil pretty much cleared Ruse, yet in Meanas' post and Ruses subsequent defense with quotes of himself, Ruse has done anything but go against the flow of things.

That, mainly. And Emu's earlier points.

edit: x-post with fener's above

This post has been edited by Ruse: 14 May 2009 - 07:50 PM

[Ruse]

Fener, on May 14 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

And how the hell is presenting a case hurting us? I will wait for a response. Also Ruse, thats a shitty thing to say, would you rather I just merrily BAAA my way through the game, and follow your lead, which, consequently is totally OMGUS, by the way.

No, but I feel like baseless cases like yours are nothing but detrimental. That's entirely subjective, but in my mind your endless attacks on Silanah that you've personally admitted are bullshit only muddies the waters for scum to hide.

[Fener]

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

That, mainly. And Emu's earlier points.

Wait. Because I said that Meanas' point about you not actually contributing something makes sense, and combine that with the fact that you defended Sil and Sil all but CIed you, which contradicted each other (Meanas saying you weren't doing anything, Sil saying you weren't just being a sheep) means I've drawn a line. No, it just means, Im using his point to strengthen my own. Try harder, scum

[Fener]

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 03:50 PM, said:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

And how the hell is presenting a case hurting us? I will wait for a response. Also Ruse, thats a shitty thing to say, would you rather I just merrily BAAA my way through the game, and follow your lead, which, consequently is totally OMGUS, by the way.

No, but I feel like baseless cases like yours are nothing but detrimental. That's entirely subjective, but in my mind your endless attacks on Silanah that you've personally admitted are bullshit only muddies the waters for scum to hide.

Todays vote , only todays vote was bullshit, hell, what kind of reason to vote is "to watch Sil blow up?" Its a bullshit reason, but it got the desired effect, it got you to pipe in and say, no no, not sil, anyone but sil!. And endless attacks my ass, I made a case, voted, then said end of day I wasn't gonna remove it, then today, I place one vote on a bullshit premise, and then start in on you. Thats not muddying the waters, thats being constructive and trying to actively find scum. Which I believe I have done.

[Fener]

And it was day one ffs, all cases are baseless, yet you think Korvalain pointing out that Gamelon might have coded warren in his post isn't muddying the waters, piss poor judgement there.

[Fener]

Ruse, you there?

[Ruse]

Fener, on May 14 2009, 03:52 PM, said:

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

That, mainly. And Emu's earlier points.

Wait. Because I said that Meanas' point about you not actually contributing something makes sense, and combine that with the fact that you defended Sil and Sil all but CIed you, which contradicted each other (Meanas saying you weren't doing anything, Sil saying you weren't just being a sheep) means I've drawn a line. No, it just means, Im using his point to strengthen my own. Try harder, scum

You've drawn a line in which you've attempted to imply that me and Silanah are somehow having a mafia-battle or something against you and Meanas. That's what I'm seeing here.

I'm defending Sil because of your bullshit case. You're claiming that his observation of my posting contradicted with Meanas' accusation when Sil indicated that I questioned and wasn't going with the flow. Meanas claimed I hadn't added to discussion--there's a significant difference.

Bullshit cases and super-bullshit cases aren't the same, buddy.

edit: x-post with a couple of fener's...ugh

This post has been edited by Ruse: 14 May 2009 - 08:00 PM

[Fener]

anybody?

[Ruse]

Fener, on May 14 2009, 03:55 PM, said:

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 03:50 PM, said:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

And how the hell is presenting a case hurting us? I will wait for a response. Also Ruse, thats a shitty thing to say, would you rather I just merrily BAAA my way through the game, and follow your lead, which, consequently is totally OMGUS, by the way.

No, but I feel like baseless cases like yours are nothing but detrimental. That's entirely subjective, but in my mind your endless attacks on Silanah that you've personally admitted are bullshit only muddies the waters for scum to hide.

Todays vote , only todays vote was bullshit, hell, what kind of reason to vote is "to watch Sil blow up?" Its a bullshit reason, but it got the desired effect, it got you to pipe in and say, no no, not sil, anyone but sil!. And endless attacks my ass, I made a case, voted, then said end of day I wasn't gonna remove it, then today, I place one vote on a bullshit premise, and then start in on you. Thats not muddying the waters, thats being constructive and trying to actively find scum. Which I believe I have done.

Um more than half of your posts are attacking Sil directly or indirectly. Close enough to "endless" IMO.

And from what I see, you aren't finding scum by going guns blazing on one guy for nothing. And seeing it happen just pisses me off.

[Ruse]

Fener, on May 14 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

And it was day one ffs, all cases are baseless, yet you think Korvalain pointing out that Gamelon might have coded warren in his post isn't muddying the waters, piss poor judgement there.

Did he actually vote him for that? I was fairly sure he just pointed it out as a food for thought type of thing.

Brb, checking.

edit: okay, that's just silly, but he's switched his vote since.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 14 May 2009 - 08:04 PM

[Fener]

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 03:59 PM, said:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 03:52 PM, said:

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

That, mainly. And Emu's earlier points.

Wait. Because I said that Meanas' point about you not actually contributing something makes sense, and combine that with the fact that you defended Sil and Sil all but CIed you, which contradicted each other (Meanas saying you weren't doing anything, Sil saying you weren't just being a sheep) means I've drawn a line. No, it just means, Im using his point to strengthen my own. Try harder, scum

You've drawn a line in which you've attempted to imply that me and Silanah are somehow having a mafia-battle or something against you and Meanas. That's what I'm seeing here.

I'm defending Sil because of your bullshit case. You're claiming that his observation of my posting contradicted with Meanas' accusation when Sil indicated that I questioned and wasn't going with the flow. Meanas claimed I hadn't added to discussion--there's a significant difference.

Bullshit cases and super-bullshit cases aren't the same, buddy.

edit: x-post with a couple of fener's...ugh

How do you go against the flow like Sil said, and not add to discussion? Its impossible. But thats got fuck-all to do with anything, the point remains that my top suspect was defended by you, when he didn't even defend himself, and that same suspect PIed you in the quoted post. if thats bullshit, or muddying the water, I really am a boar.

[Silanah]

Look fener anybody with half a brain can see your case was shit. You yourself say its shit. The OnLY reason anyone, myself included is giving you any thought is because you kept pounding a shit case down peoples throats. And they never liked the taste of it to begin with. What hell do you expect. But what makes matters worse in your case is now you admit the case was shit. Yet you still condone you 'buddy' meanas using your self admitted rubbish case to ride all the way to the bank. If as an inno, make a shit case. And i KNOW its shit. Then i tent to look harder at the people who 'follow' that case. As its usually scum who don't mind who gets lynched. Any old shit case will do...no? Yet you never question your buddy's
Intentions. And its worrisome. In not the OnLY one who has noticed this.

[Fener]

Ruse, on May 14 2009, 04:03 PM, said:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

And it was day one ffs, all cases are baseless, yet you think Korvalain pointing out that Gamelon might have coded warren in his post isn't muddying the waters, piss poor judgement there.

Did he actually vote him for that? I was fairly sure he just pointed it out as a food for thought type of thing.

Brb, checking.

Yes he voted him. Big bold letters. Hard to miss really.

[Fener]

Silanah, on May 14 2009, 04:04 PM, said:

Look fener anybody with half a brain can see your case was shit. You yourself say its shit. The OnLY reason anyone, myself included is giving you any thought is because you kept pounding a shit case down peoples throats. And they never liked the taste of it to begin with. What hell do you expect. But what makes matters worse in your case is now you admit the case was shit. Yet you still condone you 'buddy' meanas using your self admitted rubbish case to ride all the way to the bank. If as an inno, make a shit case. And i KNOW its shit. Then i tent to look harder at the people who 'follow' that case. As its usually scum who don't mind who gets lynched. Any old shit case will do...no? Yet you never question your buddy's
Intentions. And its worrisome. In not the OnLY one who has noticed this.

Do you read my posts or do you just skim them from your phone. All day one cases are terrible. Its day 2 or 3 that they start to become more solid. The fact that you reacted in the way you did to my vote today, helped you in my eyes, but the way Ruse piped in, brought you back up on the list. You continue to say I pounded that shit case, but I had 17 posts yesterday. How the hell do you pound something down someones throat with 17 posts out of 400 (I know it wasn't 400, its an exaduration, but point stands).

[Silanah]

Look fener... anybody with half a brain can see your case was shit. You yourself say its shit. The OnLY reason anyone is giving you any thought now is because you kept pounding a shit case down peoples throats. And they never liked the taste of it to begin with yet you kept shoving and your friend started helping. What the hell do you expect. But what makes matters worse in your case is now you admit the case was shit. Yet you still condone your 'buddy' meanas using your self admitted rubbish case to ride all the way to the bank. If i, as an inno, make a shit case. And i KNOW its shit. Then i tend to look harder at the people who 'follow' that case. As its usually the scum who don't mind who the hell gets lynched, any old shit case will do...no? Yet you never question your buddy's
Intentions. And its worrisome. Im not the OnLY one who has noticed this. And itS strange you haven't noticed this. If you are inno. Get your head in the game. Or voting you off guilty or not...can only help inno's.

[Fener]

Sil, you do realize that your post above is the reason I voted you yesterday right? You say "Im not the only one to notice this" like you brought it up, but Emur was the one to bring it up, and you just happen to agree.

[Fener]

Well, since no one else wants to battle, let me give you some advice Sil. Stop acting like you know more about this game than I do. I am playing the game, looking for scummy things. you on the other hand are a sheep, hopping on and agreeing with almost every case that has been presented. If you want quotes, since I am talking to myself, I wont mind getting them. Where have you put together a case of your own? I did. I made one one you.

[Fener]

Silanah, on May 14 2009, 10:45 AM, said:

Fener, on May 14 2009, 03:40 PM, said:

Silanah, on May 14 2009, 10:32 AM, said:

Gamelon, on May 14 2009, 03:25 PM, said:

So your vote basically boils down to "you're too nice". Got it.

Also, please see my second post above about the 'woodwork'.

well...no
My vote is based on a logical deduction.

In a game were a killer is on his own...he tends to be quieter and should be a low poster.
I went through all of the low posters posts and found you to be the most agreeable person.
Also you have been very happy to go woth most of the cases people have put out there without question.
You never question the person attacking another person...not that i could find....you only ever agree and vote.

there is however korvalain...who is similar to you but i felt he was a bit less agreeable than yourself.
pitty no one else is even bothering looking at what i am saying so watever.

Sil, now stop that, I have read every post, including the WIFOM above, and thats why its not very good, you seem to be convinced of something that I, for one , cant see. Mostly I guess its because you say above that the killer tends to be quieter, and that may be, but its no real case in this particular game, where the killer may very well be in the mid to upper posters. Its not really a case, when its guess work, is it?

its all guess work dumb ass...the entire game.
Nothing is certain...

And excuse ME?...but how and who i put pressure on has FUCK ALL to do with you!!
If you dont agree then dont vote, but dont tell me to "stop" anything...since you are in capable of stopping anything yourself.

Hey, I was wrong, you made a case on Gamelon using Wifom. By the way, I just want to point out that you yourself said that day one shit was guess work.

[Fener]

Korvalain, on May 14 2009, 11:15 AM, said:

Okay, read through Gamelon, and most of the stuff was worthless. He agreed with a lot of people, he opened his posting with a blow-by-blow summary of the game up to that point, and he spends a lot of posts deciphering our silenced companions pictographs. But in his third post, something caught my eye. Its easy to pass off as a spelling mistake, but it seems awfully convenient given the subject matter of this game.

Gamelon, on May 13 2009, 08:19 AM, said:

Liosan, on May 13 2009, 10:51 AM, said:

Wow. I expected a few pages from when I went to bed.

That's because Rashan hasn't been here.


However, there is actually some interesting stuff coming out now.
The post by Korlat is a indeed strange. An attack on Emur seems a little unwarrented, especially on evidence that seems more like a hunch. The "obvious" comment could just be poor wording, but the speculation about who silenced who is just going to tie everything in knots this early. I wasn't here for the other Benses game, so I've been thinking about the silencing factor. How effective can speculating about this be? Tennes is saying it's useless and Kesso is saying that suggesting it's not important sounds scummy. It might be important at some point, but IMO speculating might obfuscate things more than it helps if we over analyse it.

edit: crosspost with silanah and kesso

For those who want to know, or don't know, the correct spelling is unwarranted. I doubt spelling will get anyone lynched ever, but I think this is worth a vote, in my mind.

vote Gamelon

Crosspost with the entire fucking page.

Ruse, since you disappered looking for this, and no one else is worth discussing things with (see what I did there), heres the post you wnated to look for