[Ampelas]

Omtose, on May 9 2009, 01:49 PM, said:

Ampelas, on May 9 2009, 07:36 PM, said:

I'm dropping in briefly to post a thought or two. IMO possible killers are either Galain or Kessobahn or maybe both. Both of them have made few mistakes and basically taken no heat at all. I will try to take a closer look at them and make cases later. if more of you could help it would be much appreciated.

I really don't see how Ano has done anything that warrants a lynch. It seems simply to be the latest random lynch target. If we keep up this nonsense play we are definitely going to loose the game to scum. Lets get real. No more being scared of getting lynched, no more panic, no more sheep votes. We need to hit a killer soon.

If we don't find anything scummy in time for a lynch, I say we lynch off the people not participating and with lowest post count. bad timing with the weekend, yeah I know, but it can't be helped. No more stupid sheep lynches.

Kthxbai.

Hmm. You say we have to hit a killer, but if we find nothing scummy we should just start with the lowest poster?

Ampelas, do you honestly believe that the person with the lowest vote count (Tennes at the moment) is scum? And what if he spams the thread, and we end up lynching someone else, do you believe they are scum? Because as you say, today is very important lynch-wise. I can't believe you can say that and then just turn around and say that a pretty much random lynch (i.e. lowest poster) is a good idea.

I didn't mean random lynch is good, it's not what I wrote either, but IMO we have to get the low posters to show, I don't like the idea that scum could be hiding there. They could be anywhere. TBH though I really think we should take a look at Galain and Kesso (I'm on it, promise, this is just a very bad day for me).

[Galain]

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 10:37 PM, said:

Galain, on May 9 2009, 08:29 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

The more I think about it, the weirder that quote I just posted is. Why would the possibility of the symps being paired mess with the killers' brains? It's not like it causes a problem for them or anything.

It does, considering they just killed one

It makes no sense for Tellan to make that play if he's a symp. It was quite obvious that the codes were going to draw NKs - and Team Evil does far better out of the situation if they aren't targetting their own symps at night.

I can see you've given it a lots of thought.

I guess you had to before you decided to kill him or not.

[Kessobahn]

bah, humbug
evil weather has conspired to ruin our practice and leave me soaked.

i'm around for about a hour.

@ Omtose: I've been known for stating the obvious since 1988. I have no other defence of the statement that irks you so, and I won't try to make another one.

sadly, I don't have time to make a case today, so can only talk about my hunches.
Fener has slipped under my radar completely, probably becasue i've been agreing with him a lot.
I have no read on Galain,a nd that worries me, but not enough to vote until I get to have a re-read of his posts.

I'm still unsure of what the Ano case is all about.

[Emurlahn]

Galain, on May 9 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 10:37 PM, said:

Galain, on May 9 2009, 08:29 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

The more I think about it, the weirder that quote I just posted is. Why would the possibility of the symps being paired mess with the killers' brains? It's not like it causes a problem for them or anything.

It does, considering they just killed one

It makes no sense for Tellan to make that play if he's a symp. It was quite obvious that the codes were going to draw NKs - and Team Evil does far better out of the situation if they aren't targetting their own symps at night.

I can see you've given it a lots of thought.

I guess you had to before you decided to kill him or not.

Actually, the idea that Tellan/Ampelas might be paired symps hadn't even occured to me until you pointed it out. If you think that constitutes 'lots of thought', you have a very odd definition of 'lots'.

[Ampelas]

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 02:37 PM, said:

Galain, on May 9 2009, 08:29 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

The more I think about it, the weirder that quote I just posted is. Why would the possibility of the symps being paired mess with the killers' brains? It's not like it causes a problem for them or anything.

It does, considering they just killed one

It makes no sense for Tellan to make that play if he's a symp. It was quite obvious that the codes were going to draw NKs - and Team Evil does far better out of the situation if they aren't targetting their own symps at night.

I am seriously getting the Evil JA vibe from you when you write stuff like that, Galain, I had to check if JA was playing or not. I've got this imagine in my head of JA sitting at the keyboard saying to himself "mess with their heads" and laughing like an insane person. JA is not playing, thankfully. IGMEOY nontheless.

Edit: IMO only scum would even come up with that idea - "Oh I know! We plant the idea that the lovers were in fact paired symps, that will make the inno sheeps scramble after each other for a while!"

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 09 May 2009 - 07:58 PM

[Ampelas]

Kessobahn, I am curious, why haven't you even commented on my post before where I said I think you and Galain are killers?

Edit: in fact, I would like your opinion on Galain. And that you haven't got a handle on him isn't an answer.

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 09 May 2009 - 08:04 PM

[Kessobahn]

sigh
can anyone playing imagine Wesley + Buttercup as symps?

and if Amp and Tellan were lying, teh real roled players would've counter-revealed by now.

sigh.

I believe they are legit. I realize that means nothing to the rest of you, but I believe that reveal was legit.

[Ampelas]

Kessobahn, on May 9 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

sigh
can anyone playing imagine Wesley + Buttercup as symps?

and if Amp and Tellan were lying, teh real roled players would've counter-revealed by now.

sigh.

I believe they are legit. I realize that means nothing to the rest of you, but I believe that reveal was legit.

You baffle me.

[Kessobahn]

Ampelas, on May 9 2009, 04:03 PM, said:

Kessobahn, I am curious, why haven't you even commented on my post before where I said I think you and Galain are killers?

Edit: in fact, I would like your opinion on Galain. And that you haven't got a handle on him isn't an answer.

it's as much of an answer as I can give right now.
he's making some sense, keeping his nose relatively clean, and I can't get an evil or good vibe off him.
As for you saying i'm a killer--wtf do you expect me to say, lol?

that i'm not one? while true, it wouldn't be the most original answer. I prefer to ignore accusations, if they are not backed by concrete reasons I can try to refute.

[Kessobahn]

Ampelas, on May 9 2009, 04:06 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on May 9 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

sigh
can anyone playing imagine Wesley + Buttercup as symps?

and if Amp and Tellan were lying, teh real roled players would've counter-revealed by now.

sigh.

I believe they are legit. I realize that means nothing to the rest of you, but I believe that reveal was legit.

You baffle me.

how so?

[Tennes]

Ampelas, on May 9 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 02:37 PM, said:

Galain, on May 9 2009, 08:29 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on May 9 2009, 10:27 PM, said:

The more I think about it, the weirder that quote I just posted is. Why would the possibility of the symps being paired mess with the killers' brains? It's not like it causes a problem for them or anything.

It does, considering they just killed one

It makes no sense for Tellan to make that play if he's a symp. It was quite obvious that the codes were going to draw NKs - and Team Evil does far better out of the situation if they aren't targetting their own symps at night.

I am seriously getting the Evil JA vibe from you when you write stuff like that, Galain, I had to check if JA was playing or not. I've got this imagine in my head of JA sitting at the keyboard saying to himself "mess with their heads" and laughing like an insane person. JA is not playing, thankfully. IGMEOY nontheless.

Edit: IMO only scum would even come up with that idea - "Oh I know! We plant the idea that the lovers were in fact paired symps, that will make the inno sheeps scramble after each other for a while!"

Galain has made a number of odd comments like this in the thread. I'm still not sure whether it means he is scum or simply another inno that is making confused statements.

I'm leaving my vote on Fener as I'm fairly confident he is scum for now.. but I'd sure like to see more of a defense from Galain.

[Ampelas]

Kessobahn, on May 9 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

it's as much of an answer as I can give right now.
he's making some sense, keeping his nose relatively clean, and I can't get an evil or good vibe off him.

Ow really? can you explain to me how he's even considering that Tellan and me are symps? that is very scummy, is it not?


Edit: why aren't you all over him for that comment? Instead you are coddling him, saying you don't get an evil or good vibe. You can't be that neutral in a mafia game. Frankly I am not seeing the paranoia I would like for an inno. Maybe you aren't?

Edit: spelling

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 09 May 2009 - 08:11 PM

[Galain]

Tennes, on May 9 2009, 11:08 PM, said:

Galain has made a number of odd comments like this in the thread. I'm still not sure whether it means he is scum or simply another inno that is making confused statements.

I'm leaving my vote on Fener as I'm fairly confident he is scum for now.. but I'd sure like to see more of a defense from Galain.

When Tennes starts telling you that you make "confused statements", it's then that you realize you need to put disclaimers on top of some of your posts when you're making a joke

Damn, I got quite of a raise from Emurlahn from that one.

[Galain]

Yes, people, it was a joke. As explained a few times, it takes about 2 seconds to realize it couldn't be, I just imagined the killers going "oh shit" for those two seconds. Hence messing with their brainz.

Hmmm, late in game, the straw-clutching and no-laughy is in full-mode, I forgot about that.

[Kessobahn]

or maybe the fact that for once in a week I don't have time to fully immerse myself into the game and feel the paranoia?
But, ofc, you, who's been so busy all week would not even consider that,

fine
vote Galain

you've made my paranoia burst to life anew, and i'd like to remove an unknown, lol

now, to get more serious: i'm not accusing Galain of saying you may be paired scum, b/c I've entertained such notion yest. However, for that theory to be pe suported, there'd have to have been a counter-reveal by now.
since there wasn't one, I make teh conclusion you are legit.
Should I blame Galain for not coming to same conclusion? possibly.

[Kessobahn]

anyhow, i've gotta get ready to leave, won't be on till much later, when I come back home.
Good day to you all.

[Galain]

I have to go too, see you in about 8-10 hours.

@Kesso: "You want me to vote? fine, vote" Are you serious? Is your point to play or to melt away from pressure? Anyways.

EDIT: And I just realize it's to answer

Ampelas, on May 9 2009, 11:03 PM, said:

Kessobahn, I am curious, why haven't you even commented on my post before where I said I think you and Galain are killers?

Edit: in fact, I would like your opinion on Galain. And that you haven't got a handle on him isn't an answer.

So you're sure I'm not a killer then, and you want to "innocent" yourself. Interesting. Otherwise you would have defended yourself otherwise, I mean, what if I CF killer?

This post has been edited by Galain: 09 May 2009 - 08:22 PM

[Ampelas]

Kessobahn, on May 9 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

or maybe the fact that for once in a week I don't have time to fully immerse myself into the game and feel the paranoia?
But, ofc, you, who's been so busy all week would not even consider that,

fine
vote Galain

you've made my paranoia burst to life anew, and i'd like to remove an unknown, lol

now, to get more serious: i'm not accusing Galain of saying you may be paired scum, b/c I've entertained such notion yest. However, for that theory to be pe suported, there'd have to have been a counter-reveal by now.
since there wasn't one, I make teh conclusion you are legit.
Should I blame Galain for not coming to same conclusion? possibly.

:Surprise: Are you for real? First you say you don't get any vibes whatsoever from Galain, then when pressured, you simply vote him? That you didn't already jump on Galain for making that statement speaks volumes how little you care about the subject. You are still not paranoid enough. Killer don't have to be as paranoid.

Galain, on May 9 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

I have to go too, see you in about 8-10 hours.

@Kesso: "You want me to vote? fine, vote" Are you serious? Is your point to play or to melt away from pressure? Anyways.

EDIT: And I just realize it's to answer

Ampelas, on May 9 2009, 11:03 PM, said:

Kessobahn, I am curious, why haven't you even commented on my post before where I said I think you and Galain are killers?

Edit: in fact, I would like your opinion on Galain. And that you haven't got a handle on him isn't an answer.

So you're sure I'm not a killer then, and you want to "innocent" yourself. Interesting. Otherwise you would have defended yourself otherwise, I mean, what if I CF killer?

Omg you guys are getting really entertaining. I am actually thinking you are a killer, and that Kesso is one too. Btw, would you mind sharing your thoughts on Kesso?


This should be interesting...

[Tennes]

Kessobahn, on May 8 2009, 03:55 PM, said:

bah
well, I suppose some healer watched over the fair buttercup...

i'm off, back later. I hope that Gavin honours korv's modkill request.

In reviewing folks, this post by Kessobahn strikes me as very odd.

Kesso says "bah" about how the night went. Perhaps because Ruse was inno, but perhaps because only 1 NK occurred on 1 inno?

Then the next line.. he supposes somehealer watched over fair buttercup.. sounds a bit like he is a killer sad that the kill on Ampelas didn't go through.

[Tennes]

Ampelas, on May 9 2009, 03:33 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on May 9 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

or maybe the fact that for once in a week I don't have time to fully immerse myself into the game and feel the paranoia?
But, ofc, you, who's been so busy all week would not even consider that,

fine
vote Galain

you've made my paranoia burst to life anew, and i'd like to remove an unknown, lol

now, to get more serious: i'm not accusing Galain of saying you may be paired scum, b/c I've entertained such notion yest. However, for that theory to be pe suported, there'd have to have been a counter-reveal by now.
since there wasn't one, I make teh conclusion you are legit.
Should I blame Galain for not coming to same conclusion? possibly.

:Surprise: Are you for real? First you say you don't get any vibes whatsoever from Galain, then when pressured, you simply vote him? That you didn't already jump on Galain for making that statement speaks volumes how little you care about the subject. You are still not paranoid enough. Killer don't have to be as paranoid.

Galain, on May 9 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

I have to go too, see you in about 8-10 hours.

@Kesso: "You want me to vote? fine, vote" Are you serious? Is your point to play or to melt away from pressure? Anyways.

EDIT: And I just realize it's to answer

Ampelas, on May 9 2009, 11:03 PM, said:

Kessobahn, I am curious, why haven't you even commented on my post before where I said I think you and Galain are killers?

Edit: in fact, I would like your opinion on Galain. And that you haven't got a handle on him isn't an answer.

So you're sure I'm not a killer then, and you want to "innocent" yourself. Interesting. Otherwise you would have defended yourself otherwise, I mean, what if I CF killer?

Omg you guys are getting really entertaining. I am actually thinking you are a killer, and that Kesso is one too. Btw, would you mind sharing your thoughts on Kesso?


This should be interesting...

I'm 100% with Ampelas on this one. If we could triple-kill Fener, Galain and Kesso, we could even this up really fast.