[Kessobahn]

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 06:27 PM, said:

 Kessobahn, on May 6 2009, 06:24 PM, said:

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 06:15 PM, said:

Liosan, I am going to tell you this, but know that this is why your getting lnched, and why I need to be, and why Game should have been already.

Gamelons use of the word town and the sentence it was presented in, actually did make him very probably innocent. Now I know this, because I got the same pm. You didn't which sux because now we know you are either scum or roled inno. Now we could risk not lynching you and hoping a healer heals you. But if you arent NKed, then we have to lynch you anyway, cause you might be scum, thus giving team scum an extra night. This was discussed earlier (and was why Tellan brought the point up and started the train), but you continued your train of thought dispite that point, and that helps make you look scummy.

Sorry mate, your dead eventually either way, we are just voting to lynch you to keep the scum from using you to get a couple of free NKs

erm, how does that logic make sense?
if he's an inno power role, the killers can't risk keeping him around, and will surely kill him. by lynching him, we narrow down the pool of OTHER potential inno power roles for killers to look for. \

us letting him live for a few days is a far lesser gamble than what the killers would have to do, if they decide to WIFOM us and keep him alive.

if we believe he may be a roled inno and he's exposed, it's much better to let him get NK-ed than waste a lynch on him, imho.

WIFOM!!! WIFOM!!!! WIFOMM!!!!

If the scum doesn't kill him tonight where do we look? What abbout tomorrow night? What about...and so on and so forth. They keep killing us off one by one, letting one know role (to them unless he is a symp) slide by to the end, or until we lynch him.

now, Sil is gonna fucking hate me for this

but

have you considered the possibility
that he may be a finder?

because our scum have to contend wtih that possibilty.
that he is a finder, and may do a find and then reveal on them, if thy don't kill him right away.

I repeat:

us letting him live for a few days is a far lesser gamble than what the killers would have to do, if they decide to WIFOM us and keep him alive.

[Korlat]

 Silanah, on May 7 2009, 10:28 AM, said:

 Korlat, on May 6 2009, 11:26 PM, said:

 Silanah, on May 7 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

 Emurlahn, on May 6 2009, 11:23 PM, said:

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 11:15 PM, said:

Liosan, I am going to tell you this, but know that this is why your getting lnched, and why I need to be, and why Game should have been already.

Gamelons use of the word town and the sentence it was presented in, actually did make him very probably innocent. Now I know this, because I got the same pm. You didn't which sux because now we know you are either scum or roled inno. Now we could risk not lynching you and hoping a healer heals you. But if you arent NKed, then we have to lynch you anyway, cause you might be scum, thus giving team scum an extra night. This was discussed earlier (and was why Tellan brought the point up and started the train), but you continued your train of thought dispite that point, and that helps make you look scummy.

Sorry mate, your dead eventually either way, we are just voting to lynch you to keep the scum from using you to get a couple of free NKs

Ah, I'd clean forgotten about that! Answers my question about why the votes were piling up on Liosan so quickly. I'd like to see where this Korlat thing goes before I put a vote down though.

This Korlat thing is being derailed by Korvalain versus Liosan, which I find interesting.

Looks like it is a separate conversation. Everything doesn't have to be about you. You know...

It is a seperate conversation; better by far at getting the subject away from you than getting associated with you by getting involved in this conversation, if I'm right about you being scum.

Are you even reading the other posts that I have written. It is like talking with my idiot brother.

[Tellan]

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 03:30 PM, said:

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 06:29 PM, said:

I disagree, I don't think that the fact he mentions, it's hard to be "of the town" CIs him obviously. Whilst my PM mentions firstly the innocence of myself and then finally town, I believe that the killer role may well also be informed he is up against the town so mentioning of the town doesn't CI him and trying to claim that is just scummy for me.

ok

Now I'm sure it's not in your PM, because you still don't get it.

[Korvalain]

 Kessobahn, on May 6 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

us letting him live for a few days is a far lesser gamble than what the killers would have to do, if they decide to WIFOM us and keep him alive.

No, this whole convo is wifom. We dont know what the fuck they will do. But we do know that Lio isn't Roleless. We also see Sil batting his head against the wall, pointing fingers every where and being an all around ass. So my money is on scum. Especially after that last post.

[Korlat]

 Silanah, on May 7 2009, 10:27 AM, said:

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

 Silanah, on May 6 2009, 06:22 PM, said:

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 11:21 PM, said:

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

Also, Mockra has been so middle of the road I think even me, who is supposedly the personification of middle of the roadness, struggle to match him. He mentions virtually no suspicions, and has virtually no content in his posts.

Read my post answering your questions

Are you defending Gamelon, Korv?

No, the point is that town wasn't in Liosans pm, o hes not a roleless inno.

Shut up, you idiot.
Jesus christ, I've been over this a dozen times today. Right now, I'm looking right at you being scum for bringing this SHIT up again, after I started on Serc for the same thing.

So your saying that since you brought something up and someone did the exact same thing you did then obviously they are scum. Seriously. Are you smoking too if so it had better be some good shit for you to come up with that logic.

[Silanah]

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 11:28 PM, said:

 Silanah, on May 6 2009, 06:27 PM, said:

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

 Silanah, on May 6 2009, 06:22 PM, said:

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 11:21 PM, said:

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

Also, Mockra has been so middle of the road I think even me, who is supposedly the personification of middle of the roadness, struggle to match him. He mentions virtually no suspicions, and has virtually no content in his posts.

Read my post answering your questions

Are you defending Gamelon, Korv?

No, the point is that town wasn't in Liosans pm, o hes not a roleless inno.

Shut up, you idiot.
Jesus christ, I've been over this a dozen times today. Right now, I'm looking right at you being scum for bringing this SHIT up again, after I started on Serc for the same thing.

Lisen you druink mother fucker. Lio is on Games case for wanting to be CIed, again you fucking moron, anyuone that doesn't get that (as has already been discussed) is roled or scum. So stop freaking out and lynch the fucker

And I find that completely understandable; not lynching him, but adding pressure to him. I found the huge emphasis on "town" a little bit dodgy myself when I saw it first. And I do, entirely get it, but it doesn't mean SHIT. It's like saying "I'm definatly inno, because I can quote a word from the inno pm." It doesn't mean or prove anything.
It would make a lot more sense NOT to jump on the possibility of a roled inno and try and lynch him. You're acting awfully like a symp right at this moment, with your tunnel vision towards Liosan, who hasn't actually done anything half as suspicious as other things. I don't think pushing a lynch on someone who is cautious about revealing anything in his PM, or cautious about people claiming faction names are important, is very bloody clever. It's a far lesser offence than the one Serc committed.

[Liosan]

I think we are all caught up in a real mess here with virtually no leads on scum. I think the way the train on me grew so quickly with most of them giving the reason as me being too middle of the road and no content seems to point there possibly being scum on the train.

[Shadow]

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 03:29 PM, said:

I disagree, I don't think that the fact he mentions, it's hard to be "of the town" CIs him obviously. Whilst my PM mentions firstly the innocence of myself and then finally town, I believe that the killer role may well also be informed he is up against the town so mentioning of the town doesn't CI him and trying to claim that is just scummy for me.

I'm Inno, and my PM doesn't mention my faction twice.

And I really, really doubt you're Roled Inno.

Remove Vote

Vote Liosan

[Silanah]

Man, I hate Mafia sometimes. I'm going to have a smoke and calm down, and then I'm going to come back and look at this from a different angle.

[Silanah]

 Shadow, on May 6 2009, 11:35 PM, said:

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 03:29 PM, said:

I disagree, I don't think that the fact he mentions, it's hard to be "of the town" CIs him obviously. Whilst my PM mentions firstly the innocence of myself and then finally town, I believe that the killer role may well also be informed he is up against the town so mentioning of the town doesn't CI him and trying to claim that is just scummy for me.

I'm Inno, and my PM doesn't mention my faction twice.

And I really, really doubt you're Roled Inno.

Remove Vote

Vote Liosan

Mine does. In two different terms.

[Tellan]

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 03:34 PM, said:

I think we are all caught up in a real mess here with virtually no leads on scum. I think the way the train on me grew so quickly with most of them giving the reason as me being too middle of the road and no content seems to point there possibly being scum on the train.

Four votes is a train.... and grew quickly? Man now you are really convincing me. You have been squirming hard try to point to targets you know won't fight back like Mockra and Tennes.

[Shadow]

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

 Silanah, on May 6 2009, 06:27 PM, said:

 Korvalain, on May 6 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

No, the point is that town wasn't in Liosans pm, o hes not a roleless inno.

Shut up, you idiot.
Jesus christ, I've been over this a dozen times today. Right now, I'm looking right at you being scum for bringing this SHIT up again, after I started on Serc for the same thing.

Lisen you druink mother fucker. Lio is on Games case for wanting to be CIed, again you fucking moron, anyuone that doesn't get that (as has already been discussed) is roled or scum. So stop freaking out and lynch the fucker

Getting in on this conversation:

@Silanah: It's highly unlikely that Role Innos PM's and Roleless Inno's PM's would use completely different wording to describe their faction.

If Liosan didn't see a certain phrase at the end of his Role PM that mentioned "of the town," he's scum. Pretty simple.

[Silanah]

Well the fact he knows what my PM says, roughly, and I am roleless, suggests he is innocent.

[Liosan]

Everyone who has voted for me, read my last post, and if you still think I am not inno, then seriously, either braindead or scum.

[Silanah]

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 11:38 PM, said:

Everyone who has voted for me, read my last post, and if you still think I am not inno, then seriously, either braindead or scum.

I really fucking agree with you here. My PM reads exactly as yours does.

[Silanah]

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 11:29 PM, said:

my PM mentions firstly the innocence of myself and then finally town

This proves Liosan is at least PI.
Thank you.
Anyone who disagrees with this is probably scum, or else very foolish.

[Liosan]

 Tellan, on May 6 2009, 11:37 PM, said:

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 03:34 PM, said:

I think we are all caught up in a real mess here with virtually no leads on scum. I think the way the train on me grew so quickly with most of them giving the reason as me being too middle of the road and no content seems to point there possibly being scum on the train.

Four votes is a train.... and grew quickly? Man now you are really convincing me. You have been squirming hard try to point to targets you know won't fight back like Mockra and Tennes.

I don't think Mockra and Tennes are suspicious, all I am saying is it's suspicious that I out of the 3 was chosen to have a train started upon. My target is Gamelon and still is.

[Liosan]

 Liosan, on May 6 2009, 11:34 PM, said:

I think we are all caught up in a real mess here with virtually no leads on scum. I think the way the train on me grew so quickly with most of them giving the reason as me being too middle of the road and no content seems to point there possibly being scum on the train.

I am talking about this post here as well as the one Silanah pointed out. Read this, then tell me I did not get the same role PM as you and I will vote for you.

[Liosan]

Also, if you guys all claim you defintely have of the town in your role PMs, weird because I didn't have "of the" which means either PS screwed up for me or some of you aren't inno.

[Kessobahn]

sigh, now I have to wait for Gavin to get on and send me another copy of my role PM...

I deleted mine, b/c he was complaining that I forget to clear out my alt's inbox,

I do see what Sil is saying, however.

remove vote

vote Ampelas

since he was my other scum target.

Also, @ Korv--whilst it's not technically against the rules, using mods' role PMs to find scum is bad form, and it's agains the spirit of the game, imho.