[Gamelon]

Omtose, on Apr 30 2009, 06:39 AM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 30 2009, 07:37 AM, said:

I put a little pressure on Korlat because I found it odd the way he showed up today. He doesn't even address the "gut" case on Omtose or when I called him out on the D-day slip. Instead, he just places his vote down and says he won't be back.

I have no problem with voting Korlat, I've already said his case is bullshit. We just need to give the guard a chance to get the night provisional in. Is there anyone else we think is possible scum. I would like to hear people's thoughts on Shadow? I still don't like him but I don't know if I'm being blinded by personal bias. I would like some opinions.

Well, he most certainly has balls of brass the size of a bulls cojones by remaining central to every decision. That, or he has a near suicidal love for the spotlight: he's been in the middle of things since (nearly) the start of the game. The question is: is that hard-working inno, or very brave symp? Especially his fingering of people earlier in the game (up until the Emur case) could be classified as symping by the book if he turns out to be one.

I find it really hard to read Shadow without suspicion of symping behaviour, but I have no concrete evidence, apart from the string of inno lynch results before we got rid of Tennes. Even so, a train doesn't consist of one wagon - we all have voted along with him, and that makes my read of him tough - he did no defending of others as far as I am aware, only now of Omtose by voting Korlat.

[Omtose]

How much time do we have left? An hour?

[Shadow]

Omtose, on Apr 30 2009, 02:46 PM, said:

Tellan, on Apr 30 2009, 07:42 AM, said:

Case on Shadow (the gist of it) appears to be that he's been, what? active and helpful?

not the strongest bit of evidence.
arg, I need to do a slow re-read once i' back from banking.

No the case on shadow is that he was pointing fingers at anyone and everyone without ever making a case. He got called on it and now has become overly helpful, gone from not knowing what to do to being really sure of himself. He also came up with and pushed the case on Emur, after it was suggested we look at Emur by Tennes. It also bothers me that he has tried to cast suspicion my way on more than one occasion including yesterday by trying to tie me to Tennes. Today though he says he's sure I'm inno. It makes no sense.

I think you're paraphrasing the hell out of everything I've done, and not giving a fair depiction. I've already addressed, at length, some posts back, my case on Emur after you first brought this up. You can go back and read it to remind yourself. And how am I really sure of myself now, when I'd already been accused of muddying the waters again with the thoughts I posted on Tennes' connections? And yeah, I have tried to cast suspicion your way. I've tried to cast suspicion everybody's way, in the end. And to be honest, I have got vibes off you in the past, and that's why I did it. But I outlined my reasons already for deciding to vote between Gamelon, Tellan, and Korlat, and then why I eventually voted Korlat. You sure as hell aren't totally off my radar, but you are further off than those guys.

You paint me in black and white - undecided then suddenly decided, when it hasn't been anything like that. Try and look past your first instinct of seeing everything I say in scum terms.

edit: spelling and grammar corrections

This post has been edited by Shadow: 30 April 2009 - 01:58 PM

[Ruse]

Omtose, on Apr 30 2009, 06:56 AM, said:

How much time do we have left? An hour?

Almost exactly two hours if my math is right. Someone confirm?

[Omtose]

Shadow, on Apr 30 2009, 07:56 AM, said:

Omtose, on Apr 30 2009, 02:46 PM, said:

Tellan, on Apr 30 2009, 07:42 AM, said:

Case on Shadow (the gist of it) appears to be that he's been, what? active and helpful?

not the strongest bit of evidence.
arg, I need to do a slow re-read once i' back from banking.

No the case on shadow is that he was pointing fingers at anyone and everyone without ever making a case. He got called on it and now has become overly helpful, gone from not knowing what to do to being really sure of himself. He also came up with and pushed the case on Emur, after it was suggested we look at Emur by Tennes. It also bothers me that he has tried to cast suspicion my way on more than one occasion including yesterday by trying to tie me to Tennes. Today though he says he's sure I'm inno. It makes no sense.

I think you're paraphrasing the hell out of everything I've done, and not giving a fair depiction. I've already addressed, at length, some posts back, my case on Emur after you first brought this up. You can go back and read it to remind yourself. And how am I really sure of myself now, when I'd already been accused of muddying the waters again with the thoughts I posted on Tennes' connections? And yeah, I have tried to cast suspicion your way. I've tried to cast suspicion everybody's way, in the end. And to be honest, I have got vibes off you in the past, and that's why I did it. But I outlined my reasons already for deciding to vote between Gamelon, Tellan, and Korlat, and then why I eventually voted Korlat. You sure as hell aren't totally off my radar, but you are further off than those guys.

You paint me in black and white - undecided then suddenly decided, when it hasn't been anything like that. Try and look past your first instinct of seeing everything I say in scum terms.

edit: spelling and grammar corrections

This is why I was asking for an objective opinion shadow. I am worried that I can't see beyond the earlier facts, it's why I wanted to hear what others have to say. I find you very distracting and I worry that it means I am missing someone else.

[Serc]

I'm here again. Very little time left. So far Korlat is looking very good to me too, although I think there's enough of us to switch it over if the need is there.

I'm still very much of the opinion the guard should only reveal tomorrow, as that's 2-scum D-day. Since we still dont know how many scum are left the info isnt the greatest amount of help right now. There's a chance the guard dies and we lose the info, but if we vote wrong today they're guaranteed dead. As far as guard targets go, I have no idea. If we lynch Korlat it's a toss-up between Gam, Tellan and Shadow (and possibly myself if the guard feels that way inclined), at the end of the day it's the guard's choice.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 8. 1 hour and 49 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Ampelas, Gamelon, Korlat, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tellan

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night

2 votes for Korlat: ( Gamelon, Shadow )
1 vote for Omtose: ( Korlat )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Tellan


If I missed any votes let me know.

Vengeance (your temp mod...Muahahaha :snigger: )

[Shadow]

3 members watching us. Do you think we've reached a crucial point or something?

[Omtose]

Okay I am at work and worried that we're running out of time and I may not be around for something crucial. I'm going to cast my vote now but will be checking in frequently to make sure there is no change of opinion or concensus.

vote Korlat

This post has been edited by Omtose: 30 April 2009 - 02:13 PM

[Serc]

I will be around for another hour. Are we going with a Korlat lynch? Does anyone else have anything to say?

[Ruse]

I'm going to vote for Korlat. How much time do we want to give the guard? Ampelas also hasn't been back.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 8. 1 hour and 35 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Ampelas, Gamelon, Korlat, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tellan

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night

3 votes for Korlat: ( Gamelon, Shadow, Omtose )
1 vote for Omtose: ( Korlat )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Ruse, Serc, Tellan

[Serc]

Well then at least we wont time out, since I can hammer. There's discussion in my (RL) background about two for one cocktail specials so I may not be here as long as I thought I would be.

[Serc]

Ok, subtle hints have turned a little less subtle so I need to go now

vote Korlat

[Ampelas]

Back, I've disliked Korlat all game, ddn't know if there was enough evidence to lynch him, but after catching up, I suppose its the best course today. It certainly means the killer will be giving us some sort of evidence with his kill today. There are no lurking lowposters left.

[Ampelas]

Oops, forgot to hammer

vote Korlat

[Shadow]

I honestly don't see myself changing my vote now, unless someone comes up with something spectacular. Did Ampelas say he would come back just before the deadline?

Edit: Sigh, never mind.

This post has been edited by Shadow: 30 April 2009 - 02:31 PM

[Ampelas]

Shadow, on Apr 30 2009, 10:31 AM, said:

I honestly don't see myself changing my vote now, unless someone comes up with something spectacular. Did Ampelas say he would come back just before the deadline?

Edit: Sigh, never mind.

Once again, your crosspost is phail.

[Ruse]

Err Amp we were going to give the guard time. Oh well. I think everyone was here today.

[Ampelas]

Now, P-S was here when I typed my vote, where'd he go?