[Shadow]

Ok, here's what I've got from a search for mentions and interactions with Tennes. But first, FUCKING HELL!!! The swine had it all along, look at these posts!

Fener, on Apr 24 2009, 08:37 PM, said:

It's extremely tempting just to lynch the spammers. Top of the list would be D'riss, who i'm conveniently already voting for.

But let's have a look at the early day. D'riss starts with the silly drunk posting. It's very annoying, but fine.

Shadow is first to reply, with this:

Shadow, on Apr 24 2009, 03:46 PM, said:

My good man, may I partake of one white wine spritzer? Make that a half, would you?

This does not at all conform with the previous posts from D'riss. In fact, you could say it's an opposite style. And a white wine spritzer is a brave choice for a bar like this one, if you know what I mean.....

Next up is Liosan:

Liosan, on Apr 24 2009, 03:47 PM, said:

*grumbles awake*

Huh? Wha...?
Lynch someone?
I say we lynch the person who ain't drinkin'!

Reminds me, I need beer, I'm near sober, that is bad.

Now, this fits in with the bar rp, but again it's a different style to either D'riss or Shadow.

Silanah brings us this gem:

Silanah, on Apr 24 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

checking in briefly

Seems a bit pointless. It's not even rp. Not sure about this.

Anomandaris, on Apr 24 2009, 03:49 PM, said:

hmmm, you sound like you have had enough, what is that your eleventh pint in the space of ten minutes? or your thirteenth?

Telling people they've had enough? Confrontation is not normally a sign of evil, IMO. Particularly at this bar, where telling people that they've had enough is pretty suicidal.

Then Telas checks in, there's a few more posts, then this from Tennes:

Tennes, on Apr 24 2009, 03:53 PM, said:

Heyssss are YOUss s uuuuking at ME. Wells are yousss. Oh my glass is empty.

NOTHER ease


Danks

urrrpp

This looks to me like it's trying too hard to fit in with the crowd. The insecure kid at school, maybe. Or evil. Tennes needs keeping an eye on.

More posts, then comes Mockra:

Mockra, on Apr 24 2009, 04:05 PM, said:

For serious, bar still open?

This post is perfectly legible. But compare it to the later posts:

Mockra, on Apr 24 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

Hope your jokig. Hey, wait a minute. You aren't DW. He gets say so, and it's 24-7 in the Trickster. Bacno beer for breakfast. Yum.

Mockra, on Apr 24 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

Boozin is sireous busines. No more joking about closed bar.

Mockra, on Apr 24 2009, 04:16 PM, said:

Wait for wat? Just drink and time flys bye.

And so it goes....

Mockra quickly moves to fit in with the crowd. Not to mention a very rapid drunkenness from the earlier sobriety. Mockra could be a lightweight, of course. Or, like Tennes, trying too hard to fit in.

Now, the good thing about Tennes is that Tennes has voted. Even joke votes are necessary at this stage. I've seen too mnay joke votes lead to an overreaction on the part of the votee and move swiftly to a lynch. Joke votes mean something, even if it's only a tiny amount. And joke votes are needed to move us from rp to serious play. So I prefer to pick on someone who has not voted yet.

Mockra, on the other hand, has not voted. Despite being 2nd on the post count, Mockra chooses to fit in with the crowd and commit to nothing.

Remove vote
Vote Mockra

Edit: Meant post count not vote count.

Fener, on Apr 27 2009, 02:37 PM, said:

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 02:30 PM, said:

Worth noting, no Rashan still, and Tennes hasn't been seen since the drunken RP.

Tennes defended Mockra and attacked me, and kept it up after the reveal. Didn't like the idea of lynching Mockra to see if I was telling the truth, either.

And, the irony......

Fener, on Apr 27 2009, 04:05 PM, said:

Tennes, on Apr 27 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

Glad that Mockra was scum. I still think that Fener could have done a better job of attacking him.

You can teach me how with the brilliant case you're about to create on whoever you think is Mockra's partner.

Ok, now, here's some other quotes I thought might be worth highlighting:

Tennes, on Apr 27 2009, 08:47 PM, said:

Gem had to have been a symp. So who was she drawing attention away from? I was kind of hoping that we would have healers. I think that Fener's partner should remain quiet unless they get a guilty find. DO NOT REVEAL TO SAVE SOMEONE.

Anomandaris why the quick vote on D'riss?

This is pretty much Tennes' first attempt at questioning/contribution all game - after Meanas' lynch. So easy to spot these things with hindsight....I'll have to continue in my next post, as it won't let me post everything in the same box.

[Shadow]

Serc, on Apr 27 2009, 08:56 PM, said:

Tennes, on Apr 27 2009, 09:50 PM, said:

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 02:44 PM, said:

Right, anyone got any ideas where to go from here?
My awesome suggestions:

1) We can continue down the path we're going, and off the remaining supposed "Mockra Crew" - seems D'riss and Emurlahn are most people's favourites...although I'm not so hot on Emurlahn at the moment. And D'riss strikes me as symp if anything at all, not killer (at least, not before Mockra's death)

2) We look at the low posters/force them to speak by voting on them. Problem here, as has been pointed out, is there's very little to accuse them of, primarily because they've said so little. Of those, my gut feeling suspects Ampelas and Korlat. No hard evidence though.

Earlier I posted the only real posts of Ampelas's that had anything. A questionable statement and that is it. Which isn't very much to lynch someone over on day 5.

Unfortunately we dont have much to work with at the moment. And it will be really easy for the low posters to come in and parrot whatever we've said and give the standard 'oh no the finder is dead' type input. We really need for people to be around in order to analyse the way they react to trains and lynches. There's like 10 people who havent stood out at all this whole game

Here Tennes mentions that he looked over Ampelas. I also found one, but don't seem to have pasted it here, where Tennes mentions his gut feeling tells him that Ampelas and Korlat could be scum. Bear in mind, though, before we write off Amp and Kor, that either of those two could have been symps which Tennes knew nothing about. But I've also pasted below more stuff which could be taken as evidence that Amp is ok.

Serc, on Apr 28 2009, 07:53 PM, said:

The theory amp put forward might also explain Meanas's initial code/signal thing, she was mentioning something that Shadow brought up, but let's try not to retcon info. I see Tennes hasnt had a reread done on him yet, I was going to but I think looking at Meanas's early game again might be a good move. Will check Tennes if I get time, my main motivation is that i cant really remember him saying anything significant. Not scummy in itself but he does seem to be cruising.

And the way emur keeps dropping from sight is maybe a little suspicious.

Ampelas, on Apr 28 2009, 07:55 PM, said:

I'll take a preliminary look at Tennes while you're doing that. Might not get as much as you would, but hey, I'm trying to contribute now

Here, both Serc and Ampelas say they'll look at Tennes.

Ampelas, on Apr 28 2009, 08:28 PM, said:

Have to go now, probably be back later tonight.

Ampelas, on Apr 28 2009, 08:30 PM, said:

Serc, on Apr 28 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

Nothing much else to see with Meanas, other than all the stuff I fished up making my case against her. The ridiculous case against Shadow could have been distancing/signaling, it did only start after Mockra died iirc (which means my above post should read game day three my apologies) She did get pretty pissy with him for no reason and knowing it was Gem still confuses me. Trying to draw the killers attention with something most people would dismiss as a confused inno might be an explanation.

Skimming through Tennes didnt reveal much either. Lots of RP day one, he did pee on Mockra's leg, but was pretty involved with a bunch of other players too. Then gone for the weekend. Some attempts at cases, nothing concrete; as well as a couple of fairly reasonable thoughts and reactions. Nothing to clear him of anything, but nothing to indicate a scum either.

Yeah, got the same read from Tennes, but I noticed his first vote was for Emu. First vote, in like his 3rd post. Kinda fits with my theory that symps know the current killer, and one other symp.

And now I must go.

And here both Serc and Ampelas come back with ambivalent reactions to Tennes. Nothing suspicious in and of itself found by either Amp or Serc, but neither really dismiss him either. Next thing, a post from Tellan:

Tellan, on Apr 29 2009, 04:28 AM, said:

ok, just caught up.

something I don't get.

we are asssuming, there were 2 paired killers to start with, yes?

and then, if one dies, a symp replaces him, so that the number of killers is always constant?
in that case, may I ask, what good are our paired guards untill we are down to a sngle scum?

btw, I'm not sure where people got evil guard from--Bent didnt' mention one, so I never thought Mockra was anyhting other than a killer.

my reasoning ( I realize it's not the strongest) is that I don't recall ever having a game where symps would keep replacing paired killers.

so, i'm going off the the theory that we have 1 killer at a time, and a large number of symps. i don't know how Bent determined the order of thier promotion, bu tthere is probably a set order, which they follow.

as for the current cases, I didn't look especially carefully (moving a room worth of stuff from one city to a different one 300k away, making a trip there and back is tiring as hell), but from what I saw, I liked Tennes' case on Emurlahn. I realize that me going against a coaster will sound hyppocritical, but there it is.

Tellan liking Tennes' case on Emur. And yes, I do realise the irony of this coming from me, and I will get to that again in a bit.

Anomandaris, on Apr 29 2009, 11:57 AM, said:

Serc, on Apr 29 2009, 11:44 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on Apr 29 2009, 11:52 AM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 29 2009, 10:50 AM, said:

Welcome back Ano, any thoughts?

I'm in a bit of a quandry as to what to do since the contamination of mod knowledge changed the way I was thinking about the game.

weird cross post, i am pretty much lost now. the way bent worded the pms made me initially think only one killer and loads of symps, but with the consensus agaisnt that i guess pressure is back on shadow.

I dunno if there's a consensus on paired scum. I for one have no idea one way or the other, which is my I'm so lost at the moment. Ruse suggested that there had to be paired scum because we had an NK the night Mockra was lynched. As I said, there are ways that Bent could have gotten around that. The problem is that we cant tell for sure either way and each situation would require different courses of action.

If any of the people that you have guarded since Mockra died come up scum, then we know there are definitely paired scum. That's three players now though, which is more than we can afford to lose at the moment, and even if they all come up inno, it doesnt prove that there arent paired scum. The only way to do that would be to successfully get a guard through. I would really like for the killer to be a single player with lots of symps, since that makes it much easier to cross players off our list. WCS is that the killers are paired and noone is cleared right now Feck.

If we work off the assumption its one killer and loads of symps then tellan and shadow are definitely not the killer at the moment but gamelon, serc, omtose, telas, tennes, korlat, ampelas, emurlahn and ruse are possible killers.

out of those tennes and korlat where both absent for large portions of the weekend and indeed tennes missed a day night cycle so couldnt be a solo killer either (or at least are not likely to be). Serc was mentioned specifically by meanas, while emurlahn was linked with mockra.

If we work on the assumption of paired killers, pretty much everyone is a suspect and could be a killer.

This was an excellent point by Anomandaris regarding Tennes and his absence, which I think just about confirms we have/had a killer pair.


As for other interactions/references:

- Liosan joked with him in RP.
- Emur joke-votes Tennes.
- Mockra made a comment about him during RP. Those evil scum!
- D'riss in RP
- Ampelas in RP.
- Tellan voted for him in order to get him to contribute very early on.
- Soon after I said I looked over Tennes' posts and noticed he'd disappeared since RP.
- Ruse mentions that Tennes' behaviour is sort of the opposite in what he noticed and made him suspect Kessobahn.
- I then had the misfortune to agree with Tennes when he was arguing over why Fener should be lynched (this was before Fener revealed finder). Tennes' argument, about Fener continuing to distract us from absolutely everything else, and was quite similar to someone else's arguement, thought I don't remember who, will have to go back and take a look.

- I haven't posted it, because it was indicated recently above, the biggest indication of Tennes' thoughts came on April 28, 08:28, and is also WIFOM heaven. However, I think we should look at it more closely, and I will after I've done this.

So: Of those still living, I didn't find any interaction with or mention of Tennes in the posts of Korlat, Gamelon, and Omtose, but I admit my search could have been more thorough, and additionally this by itself means nothing at all.

Edit: Changed 12:28 to 08:28

This post has been edited by Shadow: 29 April 2009 - 09:01 PM

[Ampelas]

Hmmm...Shadow, while that's remarkable work, I don't see what it does other than to bring attention back to EVERYBODY! correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought at this stage that we'd be trying to look at individuals.

[Shadow]

Well, for one thing, I'm....not ruling out, but certainly putting you and Serc at the bottom of the list of possible evils because of this. Possibly, possibly Korlat as well, as Tennes said he had a 'gut feeling' about them (but that doesn't rule out that Korlat could have had symp status - although if they did, they were very shit symps).

I was hoping someone else could analyse this info as well, though. I'd especially like opinions on whether it's worth pointing out who didn't interact or mention Tennes, as well as who did.

[Ampelas]

I think it is worth mentioning that, esp. because Omtose is a high poster, and Gamelon's posts have been epically content filled. Now, Omtose especially seems unlikely to have made NO mention of Tennes through the entire game. Very intriguing, imo.

[Shadow]

Ampelas, on Apr 29 2009, 10:13 PM, said:

I think it is worth mentioning that, esp. because Omtose is a high poster, and Gamelon's posts have been epically content filled. Now, Omtose especially seems unlikely to have made NO mention of Tennes through the entire game. Very intriguing, imo.

Bear in mind I would have to double-check this. I didn't spot Omtose (or Gamelon) mentioning or indicating awareness of Tennes, but I did only look through the postings once.

[Omtose]

I'm not sure whether I did look at Tennes or not and that's just an honest answer. The fact of the matter is I can only look at some many people at a time, and I have been putting an effort in to make developed cases. I did mention Tennes and one point though yesterday and that was to slow down the lynch of Shadow a bit purely because I wanted to hear Shadow's defence. At the time I was sure shadow was at least a symp and was hoping he would come back defend himslef and possibly out someone else.
It is interesting to note though that at the time Tennes posted saying we were going for the speed lynch I had set up quite the case whic was rapidly building steam. We should ask ourselves why Tennes would have wanted us to slow the lynch on Shadow, unlike myself he didn't give any reasoning. Note as well he states we should look at Emurhlan and who comes up with a case aganst Emur shortly after but Shadow!

Tennes, on Apr 28 2009, 01:34 PM, said:

You guys are rushing things right along aren't you. I find that there is a lot of good points about Shadow. But I am a little hesitant to speed lynch someone just yet. I think that I will hold for joining you guys while I read up on Emurlahn.

Omtose, on Apr 28 2009, 01:48 PM, said:

I do agree with Tenes that we shouldn't speed lynch Shadow, I stand behind my vote and what I said about him, but I want to hear what he has to say. His reaction could actually tell us alot, so lets continue to look for evidence and then hear how he defends himself. It's going to have to be a pretty good defence to change my mind at this point. I am also willing to consider other cases that may be put forth if they are stonger, for now though my vote stands. We should also look at others who may be connected to Shadow somehow. I'm going to do some reading.

[Shadow]

Omtose, on Apr 29 2009, 10:25 PM, said:

I'm not sure whether I did look at Tennes or not and that's just an honest answer. The fact of the matter is I can only look at some many people at a time, and I have been putting an effort in to make developed cases. I did mention Tennes and one point though yesterday and that was to slow down the lynch of Shadow a bit purely because I wanted to hear Shadow's defence. At the time I was sure shadow was at least a symp and was hoping he would come back defend himslef and possibly out someone else.
It is interesting to note though that at the time Tennes posted saying we were going for the speed lynch I had set up quite the case whic was rapidly building steam. We should ask ourselves why Tennes would have wanted us to slow the lynch on Shadow, unlike myself he didn't give any reasoning. Note as well he states we should look at Emurhlan and who comes up with a case aganst Emur shortly after but Shadow!

Tennes, on Apr 28 2009, 01:34 PM, said:

You guys are rushing things right along aren't you. I find that there is a lot of good points about Shadow. But I am a little hesitant to speed lynch someone just yet. I think that I will hold for joining you guys while I read up on Emurlahn.

Omtose, on Apr 28 2009, 01:48 PM, said:

I do agree with Tenes that we shouldn't speed lynch Shadow, I stand behind my vote and what I said about him, but I want to hear what he has to say. His reaction could actually tell us alot, so lets continue to look for evidence and then hear how he defends himself. It's going to have to be a pretty good defence to change my mind at this point. I am also willing to consider other cases that may be put forth if they are stonger, for now though my vote stands. We should also look at others who may be connected to Shadow somehow. I'm going to do some reading.

There we go then, I missed this reference of Omtose's to something Tennes said - ironically an agreement about not speed-lynching me. This also makes your argument slightly flawed, as you yourself argued to slow down my lynch (I assume you are suggesting Tennes was trying to give me time out of scum motives).

As for me putting up a case on Emur, after Tennes had said before that Emur was suspicious to him...well, all I can say that's mighty unfortunate for me, and I haven't tried to hide from that link. Bear in mind, though, that my case on Emur wasn't based on anything Tennes said - not that that proves anything anyway. I simply can't defend myself from this link, apart from to say how was I supposed to know Tennes was evil? But this is also not definitive proof by any stretch of a link between me and Tennes.

[Ampelas]

Shadow, on Apr 29 2009, 05:34 PM, said:

Omtose, on Apr 29 2009, 10:25 PM, said:

I'm not sure whether I did look at Tennes or not and that's just an honest answer. The fact of the matter is I can only look at some many people at a time, and I have been putting an effort in to make developed cases. I did mention Tennes and one point though yesterday and that was to slow down the lynch of Shadow a bit purely because I wanted to hear Shadow's defence. At the time I was sure shadow was at least a symp and was hoping he would come back defend himslef and possibly out someone else.
It is interesting to note though that at the time Tennes posted saying we were going for the speed lynch I had set up quite the case whic was rapidly building steam. We should ask ourselves why Tennes would have wanted us to slow the lynch on Shadow, unlike myself he didn't give any reasoning. Note as well he states we should look at Emurhlan and who comes up with a case aganst Emur shortly after but Shadow!

Tennes, on Apr 28 2009, 01:34 PM, said:

You guys are rushing things right along aren't you. I find that there is a lot of good points about Shadow. But I am a little hesitant to speed lynch someone just yet. I think that I will hold for joining you guys while I read up on Emurlahn.

Omtose, on Apr 28 2009, 01:48 PM, said:

I do agree with Tenes that we shouldn't speed lynch Shadow, I stand behind my vote and what I said about him, but I want to hear what he has to say. His reaction could actually tell us alot, so lets continue to look for evidence and then hear how he defends himself. It's going to have to be a pretty good defence to change my mind at this point. I am also willing to consider other cases that may be put forth if they are stonger, for now though my vote stands. We should also look at others who may be connected to Shadow somehow. I'm going to do some reading.

There we go then, I missed this reference of Omtose's to something Tennes said - ironically an agreement about not speed-lynching me. This also makes your argument slightly flawed, as you yourself argued to slow down my lynch (I assume you are suggesting Tennes was trying to give me time out of scum motives).

As for me putting up a case on Emur, after Tennes had said before that Emur was suspicious to him...well, all I can say that's mighty unfortunate for me, and I haven't tried to hide from that link. Bear in mind, though, that my case on Emur wasn't based on anything Tennes said - not that that proves anything anyway. I simply can't defend myself from this link, apart from to say how was I supposed to know Tennes was evil? But this is also not definitive proof by any stretch of a link between me and Tennes.

Its actually oddly suspicious that you missed it at all, it only happened last night.

[Ampelas]

Okay, gotta go now, I'm hungry. Be back later tonight...I hope

[Shadow]

Ampelas, on Apr 29 2009, 10:42 PM, said:

Its actually oddly suspicious that you missed it at all, it only happened last night.

Not really suspicious, I was looking at posts from the beginning, so by the time I got to last night, I'd already looked over hundreds and was deffo getting tired of it.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 8. 17 hours and 55 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Ampelas, Gamelon, Korlat, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tellan

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night


Players not voted: Ampelas, Gamelon, Korlat, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tellan

[Omtose]

Shadow, on Apr 29 2009, 03:34 PM, said:

Omtose, on Apr 29 2009, 10:25 PM, said:

I'm not sure whether I did look at Tennes or not and that's just an honest answer. The fact of the matter is I can only look at some many people at a time, and I have been putting an effort in to make developed cases. I did mention Tennes and one point though yesterday and that was to slow down the lynch of Shadow a bit purely because I wanted to hear Shadow's defence. At the time I was sure shadow was at least a symp and was hoping he would come back defend himslef and possibly out someone else.
It is interesting to note though that at the time Tennes posted saying we were going for the speed lynch I had set up quite the case whic was rapidly building steam. We should ask ourselves why Tennes would have wanted us to slow the lynch on Shadow, unlike myself he didn't give any reasoning. Note as well he states we should look at Emurhlan and who comes up with a case aganst Emur shortly after but Shadow!

Tennes, on Apr 28 2009, 01:34 PM, said:

You guys are rushing things right along aren't you. I find that there is a lot of good points about Shadow. But I am a little hesitant to speed lynch someone just yet. I think that I will hold for joining you guys while I read up on Emurlahn.

Omtose, on Apr 28 2009, 01:48 PM, said:

I do agree with Tenes that we shouldn't speed lynch Shadow, I stand behind my vote and what I said about him, but I want to hear what he has to say. His reaction could actually tell us alot, so lets continue to look for evidence and then hear how he defends himself. It's going to have to be a pretty good defence to change my mind at this point. I am also willing to consider other cases that may be put forth if they are stonger, for now though my vote stands. We should also look at others who may be connected to Shadow somehow. I'm going to do some reading.

There we go then, I missed this reference of Omtose's to something Tennes said - ironically an agreement about not speed-lynching me. This also makes your argument slightly flawed, as you yourself argued to slow down my lynch (I assume you are suggesting Tennes was trying to give me time out of scum motives).

As for me putting up a case on Emur, after Tennes had said before that Emur was suspicious to him...well, all I can say that's mighty unfortunate for me, and I haven't tried to hide from that link. Bear in mind, though, that my case on Emur wasn't based on anything Tennes said - not that that proves anything anyway. I simply can't defend myself from this link, apart from to say how was I supposed to know Tennes was evil? But this is also not definitive proof by any stretch of a link between me and Tennes.

I made my reasons for wanting to slow the lynch on you very clear, and as I was the person who initially brought you to attention, helped develop a case against you and then pushed the case quite hard why would I say it for any other reason than the one I stated. I was hoping you would out someone or that someone would jump to your defence. As I pointed out Tennes had no reasoning behind wanting to slow the lynch against you. It was the first thing he noted when he popped in, as he had very little to say after RP I think it is significant. One of the times he happens to input anything it's to slow a train on you and point us to Emur. You cant just dismiss the fact that he suggests looking at Emur, the case he initially made didn't catch on, but yours certainly did. I commented at the time how it bothered me that you had gone from being no help and unfocused to suddenly coming up with this very focused case against Emur. It is unfortunate for you that this link exists, there have in fact been several unfortunate circumstances surrounding you so far. I'm beginning to wonder how many of them are coincidence.

Edit for clarity

This post has been edited by Omtose: 29 April 2009 - 10:13 PM

[Shadow]

Omtose, on Apr 29 2009, 11:10 PM, said:

I made my reasons for wanting to slow the lynch on you very clear, and as I was the person who initially brought you to attention, helped develop a case against you and then pushed the case quite hard why would I say it for any other reason than the one I stated. I was hoping you would out someone or that someone would jump to your defence. As I pointed out Tennes had no reasoning behind wanting to slow the lynch against you. It was the first thing he noted when he popped in, as he had very little to say after RP I think it is significant. One of the times he happens to input anything it's to slow a train on you and point us to Emur. You cant just dismiss the fact that he suggests looking at Emur, the case he initially made didn't catch on, but yours certainly did. I commented at the time how it bothered me that you had gone from being no help and unfocused to suddenly coming up with cases. IT is unfortunate that this link exists it's, there have in fact been several unfortunate circumstances surrounding you so far. I'm beginning to wonder how many of them are coincidence.

If you made this case against anyone else, I would be in full agreement with you. Which also shows how much and how quickly we jump from assumptions to beliefs in this game. I myself can dismiss that Tennes also raised suspicions of Emur because 1) I know I am inno, and 2) I didn't even connect that Tennes had voiced suspicions of Emur. But, of course, I can't prove either of those things.

As for going from "being no help and unfocused to suddenly coming up with cases": I certainly didn't think or realise I was being no help. However it may have turned out, I was always trying to help with whatever I posted. Unfocused, yes, true, but that's perhaps better than latching on to the wrong person and continuing to push it above all other considerations. And then I 'suddenly came up with a case.' Well, quite clearly my play style had rubbed people the wrong way, so I changed it, and I did something which I hoped would catch an evil, appease people, and save my ass at the same time. The pressure was there, from the votes, for me to pull something out of the bag, and I did - although in the end it wasn't successful. And that's what can come from being too focused on one person.

I came up with what everyone agreed was a sensible, simple, and believable case on Emur, and they voted that way. And it seems the case was wrong (Emur could have been a symp, but I think it unlikely, my case after all was based on him having turned into a killer).

Sensible, simple, and belivable, just like your allusions to me and Tennes. Mine were wrong, and I for one know yours are too. But I can't prove it. All I can do is try and come up with something on someone else to once again try and catch an evil, appease everyone else, and save my own ass, and that's what I'm doing.

[Ruse]

I'm here and reading, almost caught up.

[Ruse]

This is the first thing that sticks out to me while reading.

Shadow, on Apr 29 2009, 12:44 PM, said:

I'm astounded Tennes had 77 posts, I would have guessed about 30!

I looked back at Tellan to see 110 posts in the summary, what? I would have guessed way lower after he went out of his way to talk about exams and moving and the like. Then,

Tellan, on Apr 29 2009, 12:48 PM, said:

I warned you from the start that that i'll be busy as fuck and not up to my usual spamming standards

It's almost the same pattern as Tennes and he seems really self-conscious about it.

[Omtose]

Ruse, on Apr 29 2009, 07:26 PM, said:

This is the first thing that sticks out to me while reading.

Shadow, on Apr 29 2009, 12:44 PM, said:

I'm astounded Tennes had 77 posts, I would have guessed about 30!

I looked back at Tellan to see 110 posts in the summary, what? I would have guessed way lower after he went out of his way to talk about exams and moving and the like. Then,

Tellan, on Apr 29 2009, 12:48 PM, said:

I warned you from the start that that i'll be busy as fuck and not up to my usual spamming standards

It's almost the same pattern as Tennes and he seems really self-conscious about it.

The only thing that makes me hesitant to jump all over this is that I alt-guessed Tellan a while ago, and I know he's not lying about the RL stuff ie)the moving and exams. It would explain somewhat the lack of content in his posts, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's inno. If the game ends and I find out he's scum and was using the RL situation as smoke screen I will be really pissed!

[Ruse]

Omtose, on Apr 29 2009, 06:39 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 29 2009, 07:26 PM, said:

This is the first thing that sticks out to me while reading.

Shadow, on Apr 29 2009, 12:44 PM, said:

I'm astounded Tennes had 77 posts, I would have guessed about 30!

I looked back at Tellan to see 110 posts in the summary, what? I would have guessed way lower after he went out of his way to talk about exams and moving and the like. Then,

Tellan, on Apr 29 2009, 12:48 PM, said:

I warned you from the start that that i'll be busy as fuck and not up to my usual spamming standards

It's almost the same pattern as Tennes and he seems really self-conscious about it.

The only thing that makes me hesitant to jump all over this is that I alt-guessed Tellan a while ago, and I know he's not lying about the RL stuff ie)the moving and exams. It would explain somewhat the lack of content in his posts, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's inno. If the game ends and I find out he's scum and was using the RL situation as smoke screen I will be really pissed!

Well....okay. Not much I can say for or against that other than it's Meta.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 8. 13 hours and 47 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Ampelas, Gamelon, Korlat, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tellan

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night


Players not voted: Ampelas, Gamelon, Korlat, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tellan

I'm going to bed now, see you in the morning!

[Ruse]

So it seems Korlat has some suspicion for his very low posting count, not much on him for that very reason. Others seem to think it puts a target on him, which is pretty wifom at this point which was already mentioned.

The 300 pound gorilla in the room is Shadow. He's done a lot of work again today, but it's back to pointing in a lot of directions which really muddies the water.