[Eispeis]

MOI spoiler
QUOTE (TheSurvivor @ Jun 17 2009, 08:23 PM) moi spoiler modgod'd out I have only just started MT so please don't spoil what happens.

As this is the DG-forum you should heed your own advice


The scene is cool though.

[Arthur Dayne]

When Cotillion is speaking to Panek and Apt about his "falling out" with Apsalar, he turns and cloaks himself in shadow only to have Panek ask if he thinks he is walking unseen. And that the dogs don't run in straight lines as he walks through objects. Makes for alot of assumptions and guessing. I actually stopped reading and audibly said "holy crap," much to my wife's confusion.

Some of the swearing in this book is classy as well.

[Serenity]

Well I only finished it for the first time a couple of days ago but there were quite a few bits that stuck in my mind, particularly Duiker and co having to watch Coltaine and Bult get overwhelmed, and then Squint having to kill Coltaine (and Coltaine looking up and welcoming the arrow).

And then there was Duiker's crucifixion, which I found horrific and heartbreaking in equal measure, even though there was a hint that all was not lost for him when Irp and Rudd turned up.

I also absolutely loved the epilogue, especially when the woman thought the black cloud was Bloodflies or something. I was thinking "No! They can't be! It has to be the crows carrying Coltaine's soul surely!" Much relief ensued... LOL!

I think my favourite WTF moment was when Moby arrived and opened the door to Tremorlor

[Old Magic]

I think I enjoyed the whole 'path of hands' plot the most.. there's always something bigger going on in these books.. unseen masses plotting big overtakings..

The quest through Tremorlor is mighty trippy.. arms of ancient beasts clawing for you.. coiling and growing branches sliding around your entire field of vision.. a pack of 5 massive Hounds of Shadow to protect you.. huge soletaken and D'ivers duke it out around every corner.. all while keeping Icarium from freaking out and going apeshit.. not to mention the Dhenrabi D'ivers entrance through its warren in the sky.. epicness..

This post has been edited by Old Magic: 07 July 2009 - 01:15 AM

[Ain't_It_Just_]

coltainereborn, on Jun 7 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

Osseric's mortal sword, on Jun 5 2009, 04:28 PM, said:

Osseric's mortal sword, on Jun 5 2009, 09:27 PM, said:

pg511!!! pg511!!! pg511!!!

My favourite page of any book ever!

The actions of the Khundryl clans changed all that. For they had come, not to join in the slaughter of the Malazans, but to give answer to the one question demanded of their honor and pride. The south mass struck the Tregyn position like a vengeful god's scythe.....

The Fist spoke "You have your answer, it seems"
"We have it, Blackwing"
"The Khundryl"
"Suprise flitted on the warrior's battered face. "You honour us, but no. We strove to break the one called Korbolo Dom, but failed. The answer is not the Khundryl."
The war chief spat at that, growled his disbelief."Spirits below! You cannot be such a fool! The answer this day..." The war chief yanked free his tulwar from its leather sheath, revealing a blade snapped ten inches above the hilt. He raised it over his head and bellowed, "The Wickans! The Wickans! The Wickans!

End chapter!
Awesomeness

SERIOUSLY, thanks for finding the whole passage. I get chills just reading it again...

Absolutely. That part sends shivers down my spines.

I particualrly loved the parts with Duiker in Hissar and Fid+Kalam in Ehrlitan-it gave us insights into the barbaric but VERY multicultural atmosphere of 7C. Especially when Fid goes Gral and plays the part to perfection at G'danisban.

EDIT: And yes, DG is my favourite Malazan book.

This post has been edited by Ain't_It_Just_: 07 July 2009 - 04:15 AM

[joy boy]

I'm somewhere on 200th page now and I just read about identities of Shadowthrone and Cotillion...WTF, this is amazing, when I read it I just looked into the sky and was smiling for the next 5 minutes. This part was genius, can't wait what SE makes of it.

[TheSurvivor]

For me it was the High Fist Pormqual(spelled right?) being such an idiot at the end and then the ten thousand under his command don't even start thinking for themsleves when it is clear their leader sucks! I know that Malazan soldiers are ultimately disiplined and will follow the orders of their commanding officer but AH! How could it end so harshly!

[Ain't_It_Just_]

TheSurvivor, on Jul 8 2009, 10:03 AM, said:

For me it was the High Fist Pormqual(spelled right?) being such an idiot at the end and then the ten thousand under his command don't even start thinking for themsleves when it is clear their leader sucks! I know that Malazan soldiers are ultimately disiplined and will follow the orders of their commanding officer but AH! How could it end so harshly!

That pissed me off as well. As well as losing Coltaine and the 7th, we lose 10,000 veterans. >

[Use Of Weapons]

My favourite is the attack on the Semk godling, where we see it with thick leather belts around its waist and its mouth and nose sewn up. 'This is some down and dirty warlocking,' I said to myself. In fact, I loved Nil and Nether.

[joy boy]

Right now I finished chapter 6 and the only mystery I cannot explain to myself is the following: When Kulp is fighting against a High Mage, when he and co. are hiding on a boat, all we know about the attacker was that it's female...so now I can't remember who that female High Mage could be, so I'm asking if it will be revealed later on in the book or should I already know who it is?

This post has been edited by joy boy: 12 July 2009 - 08:44 AM

[D'rek]

joy boy, on Jul 12 2009, 04:44 AM, said:

Right now I finished chapter 6 and the only mystery I cannot explain to myself is the following: When Kulp is fighting against a High Mage, when he and co. are hiding on a boat, all we know about the attacker was that it's female...so now I can't remember who that female High Mage could be, so I'm asking if it will be revealed later on in the book or should I already know who it is?

You aren't supposed to know who it is. It's never outright said, either, but ocne you get to know the Army of the Apocalypse a bit better in both DG and HoC, you'll see there are very few female high mages so it was very likely one of them.

[joy boy]

Right, I hoped it was this kind of a mystery, so great! I just read about a jade finger stuck in the ground and it surely was a WTF moment. Can't wait to read more about it

[Profeci]

Coltaines final stand and the crows harvesting his soul. . . epic WTF moment. . I was seriously negative when that went down.

[Dolorous Menhir]

joy boy, on Jul 7 2009, 10:41 AM, said:

I'm somewhere on 200th page now and I just read about identities of Shadowthrone and Cotillion...WTF, this is amazing, when I read it I just looked into the sky and was smiling for the next 5 minutes. This part was genius, can't wait what SE makes of it.

Best point of the series. Didn't matter what came next, my attachment to these books was sealed then.

[Salt-Man Z]

I always feel bad, because, even after only two reads through the series, I cannot for the life of me remember not knowing the secret identities of Shadowthrone and Cotillion. I feel like I'm missing out on a great moment of revelation, even though I know it must have occurred at some point.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Salt-Man Z, on Jul 15 2009, 10:32 PM, said:

I always feel bad, because, even after only two reads through the series, I cannot for the life of me remember not knowing the secret identities of Shadowthrone and Cotillion. I feel like I'm missing out on a great moment of revelation, even though I know it must have occurred at some point.

You can work it out from reading GotM, if you read between the lines and pay attention. Maybe that's how you found out?

[joy boy]

Halfway through the book I asked myself a question: is Tremorlor where the Path of Hands is to happen ? I know Apsalar & co. are trying to get there to get to Deadhouse Gates so she can go home, but is it the same place as the whole Whirwind thing? Cus it's all in the heart of Raraku but I don't really know if it's both at exact same spot.

[Soletaken Peach]

Quote

"And to Sormo the Elder warlock, there on the wall of Unta there came eleven crows- eleven - to take the great man's soul, for no single creature could hold it all, Eleven." A previously unsurpassed immensity of soul, then a flock of thousands came for the almost acendant Coltaine.

Both scenes were heartbreaking. Contailne's death, Squint's arrow, the nobles that ultimately died and the Highfist who's-name-I-refuse-to-remember's idiocy.

• A really WTF moment for me, heartbreaking and worthy of a few tears is near the end. When the little imp-demons find a piece of cloth with a name written in the deadman's crucified body... It was Duiker's Marine's name, her name. That send chills down my spine. I forgot if she was dead, or not. ;-;
  
  
• List saying he had found his war, was another heart breaking moment for me.
  
  
• The cattledog and lapdog being helped by Mappo! I was like 'Wtf, they're alive yay!'
  
  
• Kulp's death was definitely a moment of epic confusion that made me reread a few times over.
  
  
• Surprised no one mentioned, might've missed it myself, when Shadowthrone dropped Kalam and Minala in a camp... with thirteenhundred children. Might have the number wrong.
  
  
• Has anyone else found the revelations of this book IRONIC? Here I was, thinking the Emperor was the most serious man in the whole Malaz empire. - But apparently he used to own a bar named Smiley's, and tends to giggle and ramble when speaking now that he's Shadowthrone! lol.
  
  
• When Nil and Nether... 'pass'... the wickan's horses' pain onto a single stallion. Their hands were permanently scorched black. o.o; wow.

This post has been edited by Soultaken Peach: 29 July 2009 - 11:36 PM

[Broken Fiddle]

this is one of my favorite books in the series along with MoI

there are a lot of awesome parts

the part where they are on the ship and the T'lann Imass takes the Tiste Andii head and you realize what he did is pretty intense

the whole part where coltaine and everyone is overrun. List's death always stands out to me, wow

when they find the name of the duiker's marine, that is pretty touching

and when kulp dies, it was like what? wtf? wait, reread, really? crap

[Verjigorm]

What really startled me was the armor talking to Moby within tremolor. It ticked a whole chain of questions, like "Why was Daseem Ultor's daughter within tremolor?" or "Why did Moby kill her?" I think that "Moby killing her" is what the armor meant by telling him that he made "a mess" on his floor.
What I -as a first time reader- really liked about this is the feeling of "You know nothing yet", what it gives me.

Apart from that I was really surprised about Kulp's sudden death and Kalam's "buddy" being reveiled as Pearl.


For the Chain of Dogs ending...it seemed a bit inevitable. I wasn't really surprised that it happened, but I "enjoyed" the intensity of those moments. The only "sad thing" for me there was, that I enjoyed Kalam's story and Fiddler's part far more than Duiker's journey. I also wasn't too attached to Coltaine, cause he seemed to "uber" to be as interesting as many of the other characters.