[Vengeance]

Yellow, on Mar 26 2009, 02:41 PM, said:

Vengeance, on Mar 26 2009, 07:38 PM, said:

So you suspect me cause I suspect the people who I have voted for so far in the game and JA??? Ummm ok. Well done. Your right I think that we should make sure that JA and Morgy and Mental stay around....

No, don't misrepresent me. I suspect you because you clearly stated you suspected a player (Ment), but you would prefer we lynched either JA or Morgoth.

And your first vote of the day was a completely different player (Gavin).

So you're basically just looking for a) a quick lynch, a lynch of a troublesome player, c) to lay groundwork for your next lynch.

Well a) I am wanting a quiet player to get involved so I can get a read on him. I suspect Mental, but have also suspected Morgy.

Or you could be running a game on me and be scum so I also suspect you. Lets not forget that I suspect Kurt too.


Edit: plus if I was scum I wouldn't keep trying to get the game moving. Actually I would want it to be nice and quiet and for people to be suspecting everyone. Well they already do that, but I would definitely be a lot more quiet and letting people take out each other. Hmmm... Shit I am a good target for lynch. Line up people get your shot in.

This post has been edited by Vengeance: 26 March 2009 - 07:55 PM

[Yellow]

Let's not do the martyr thing just yet, eh?

[Mentalist]

well, i wouldn't be a huge fan of lynching a quiet player today. Because in the end, it's a cointoss if we have nothing to go on with them except for them being quiet.

Obviously we might get lucky, but i thnk it's best to go for a loud player you suspect over a quiet player.

[Mentalist]

Yellow, on Mar 26 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

Let's not do the martyr thing just yet, eh?

yeah, don't forget, that's MY forté..

[Vengeance]

Yellow, on Mar 26 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

Let's not do the martyr thing just yet, eh?

No worries that isn't my style...

[Kurt Montandon]

Vote Gavin

The more I think about it, the more that Gavin and Yellow strike me as being too clean. I can't think of a single mis-step either has made to accidentally make themselves look suspicious. Innos almost always slip up in ways that can be interpreted as scummy, but those two ... nothing. There's absolutely nothing that sticks to them. And that, in and of itself, is suspicious.

I'm sure people will find that weak, but it's all I've got.

[Yellow]

You're right, that was weak.

[Mentalist]

very.
i'm not swayed
unless something decisively better comes up, i'm gonna be voting Morgoth.

[Kurt Montandon]

Yellow, on Mar 26 2009, 01:23 PM, said:

You're right, that was weak.

I'd love to see something better.

Anything.

[Mentalist]

what did you think about venge defending Morgy form Bubba's joke vote last night?

[Yellow]

See my argument with Venge above.

What do you want to see exactly? Are you waiting for someone to drunkenly admit to being scum? Get stuck in and pry away at what you suspect. If you remain vague, you're just a flower arrangement. You add colour, but you're not really useful either way.

edit - cross post, was @ Kurt

This post has been edited by Yellow: 26 March 2009 - 08:42 PM

[Kurt Montandon]

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 01:41 PM, said:

what did you think about venge defending Morgy form Bubba's joke vote last night?

I think I agree that it's a little late in the game to be making joke votes.

[Morgoth]

Vengeance, on Mar 26 2009, 08:10 PM, said:

Yellow, on Mar 26 2009, 02:02 PM, said:

Vengeance, on Mar 26 2009, 06:54 PM, said:

Ugg I went back and read half of Mentals posts...Blah blah blah my hard drive died. I am going to take a nap....Blah blah blah....Going to a lecture... Going to go take a nap....

Really that his 75% of his posts. So the main reason that I suspect him is gut. I feel that we need to lynch either JA or Morgy today. Unfortunately Gavin is sound asleep for another 6 hours and won't be on till after I go home. I do find him suspicious as he hasn't said shit about shit and his excuse for not saying shit after I put him at l-3 was crap.

Woah, man. You say that you think Mental is scum, but you think we should lynch either JA or Morgoth? What, do you want the good players out of the way or something?

Plus, you voted like 3 seconds into the day, which seems like you're just eager to lynch off any old fucker. You need to make a better case than the one above.

I voted for gavin as he has been under no pressure at all for the entire game. I do think that Mental is probably scum but upon review of half of his posts (I am to lazy to read them all) I can't find the ones that stood out for me when I did my reread yesterday. The fact that almost all of the players who have died has been suspicious of JA and Morgy and that most of the remaining players are also suspicious of JA and Morgy. Plus the fact that while they both have gotten a couple of votes nothing serious has been turned up on them. Morgy led the drive for bubba's lynch. JA has been sly and hasn't really laid anything down that can stick to him. As for the making of huge gigantic cases. It is my belief that 90% of the time they are made by scum. So if we go back and look at who has made the major cases so far in this game we have Morgy and you yellow. DKT did also but he was innocent.

So, you're saying that because we've made cases, we're probably guilty? Not, perhaps that we're trying to solve this game? How do you propose we do that without making cases?

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 08:32 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Mar 26 2009, 03:25 PM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

go ahead with that...

I'll be really pissed if our scum are kurt and yellow.

Why?

Because those two are people that have given us absolutely NOTHING to go on.

at the moment, I think the best bet's morgoth, for several reasons.

Dkt's case on him, and, as WIFOM as this may sound, he was fairly high on DiBs' list as well.

Venge's symping of him, whether it was intentional or not.

the fact that he generally doesn't play th eway he usually does.

Oh come on, dk's case was a bunch of nonsense, not to mention his only argument for me being scum was that I was supposedly acting as a partner for JA. You buy this even though more or less all the quotes he posted were grossly missinterpreted, often presenting a post where I argued against JA as to be me agreeing with JA. Did you even read the case, or where you just staring at all the shiny quotes?

You've been beating this horse about me being scum, yet you've yet to present anything for it apart from "gut". Whenever you're asked to clarify you pull back making excuses about how busy you've been and how you can't participate properly.

[Mentalist]

wtf?
have you even read this post?
wher am I making excuses?
I was busy two days ago, and i was busy yesterday.
I've been around today, i'm nto making any RL excuse that I coud recall.

I told you--I think you are scum because to me it looked like Venge was symping you. How many times must I repeat myself about that?

[Morgoth]

I remember being a bit bothered by ment's behaviour during the last half hour previous to the Bubba lynch. He's not being just sceptical of the Bubba case, he's almost acting towards parody.

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

hmm
i'm not seeing the scumminess in Bubba, tbh

i'll vote him if it's needed, but I'm not feeling the scum vibe at all from him.

All right, he's willing to hammer, that's legitimate. We need a lynch after all and he wouldn't be the first to reserve opinion.

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 03:11 PM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 26 2009, 10:07 AM, said:

but come on people. We can't end the day without a lynch!

consensus is on Bubba. Me and venge are both ready to vote him (appparently)

but dkt asked that we hold off till he finishes his case on you + JA.

He's ready to be the hammer. So far so good.

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

i'm giving dkt another 20 mins to show up, then i'm hammering

Soon there will be a hammer. Just wait a little longer.

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 03:32 PM, said:

16 mins till day end
8 mins till I hammer

Only eight min left til the hammer. Suspense indeed.

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 03:37 PM, said:

we got 12 minutes if we decide to make this happen

Then dk's case appears and Ment jumps the chance to lynch JA or me like a starving man throwing himself at roast beef. There's 12 min left and Ment seems to believe a new lynch train can be made in this time.

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 03:39 PM, said:

9 minutes to go...

Just nine min left, no one have jumped on his train. Bubba though, seems completly forgotten.

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 03:42 PM, said:

Vengeance, on Mar 26 2009, 10:41 AM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 09:39 AM, said:

Bubba's on L-1

actually, if JA votes with us, we have enough to vote off Morgoth.

how much time do we have.

umm.. 6 minutes?

Still time to make a new lynch train. Six minutes is a life time.

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 03:43 PM, said:

Gavin, make that FIVE minutes

Now five minuttes. Ment is truly wanting a lynch to happen isn't he just.

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 03:44 PM, said:

come on, people

shit, if we get to two minute mark, i'll drop the hammer. otherwise we'll just waste tomorrow doing the same thing.

The two min mark now. Two min from now ment is willing to drop the hammer on Bubba, he just wants to see if three votes for me will appear in this time. Sure, that happens all the time.

Then dk has had enough and hammers.

Am I the only one who see Mentalist being a bit two faced here? There was no chance to build another train. We all see this. Ment took care to mention again and again and again that he would hammer, but it eventually became obvious he never would. I mean, come on. A train in two minutes? No way would that ever happen. Ment seems so desperate not to lynch Bubba it is almost painfull.

I'm starting to think my initial theory was sound. Bubba was the symp. Ment seems like a killer in panic. He doesn't want his symp dead, but he can't be seen not to want a lynch. With Bubba's unwillingness to even defend himself, there was very little to justify holding back the hammer. Better then to pretend you want to hammer and be just a min too late.

Mentalist

[Yellow]

Actually, that's a pretty good point. I was surprised how close to the wire that lynch went.

[Mentalist]

rofl

wow
yes, dkt's case came up too late to do much.
I wanted to hear people's opinion. incidentally, I said "2 minutes and i'll hammer" at the 4 minute mark.
i don't see a problem with last minute hammers, and I don't believe the case on Bubba was sound.

yet, I love how sure you are all of a sudden that I wouldn't hammer.

[Kurt Montandon]

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 02:35 PM, said:

rofl

wow
yes, dkt's case came up too late to do much.
I wanted to hear people's opinion. incidentally, I said "2 minutes and i'll hammer" at the 4 minute mark.
i don't see a problem with last minute hammers, and I don't believe the case on Bubba was sound.

yet, I love how sure you are all of a sudden that I wouldn't hammer.

We're sure because you, you know, didn't. It's not hypothetical.

[Morgoth]

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 10:35 PM, said:

rofl

wow
yes, dkt's case came up too late to do much.
I wanted to hear people's opinion. incidentally, I said "2 minutes and i'll hammer" at the 4 minute mark.
i don't see a problem with last minute hammers, and I don't believe the case on Bubba was sound.

yet, I love how sure you are all of a sudden that I wouldn't hammer.

considering how often you postponed it, not to mention the quite weak excuses you started making after a while, yes I don't see it all that odd that I find it likely you never would hammer.

[Mentalist]

Kurt Montandon, on Mar 26 2009, 05:36 PM, said:

Mentalist, on Mar 26 2009, 02:35 PM, said:

rofl

wow
yes, dkt's case came up too late to do much.
I wanted to hear people's opinion. incidentally, I said "2 minutes and i'll hammer" at the 4 minute mark.
i don't see a problem with last minute hammers, and I don't believe the case on Bubba was sound.

yet, I love how sure you are all of a sudden that I wouldn't hammer.

We're sure because you, you know, didn't. It's not hypothetical.

lol, now you'll blame me because dkt had less patience than me.
rofl.

I always try to wait till the end before hammering.
and usually someone more impatient comes up and hammers before me, and hten I get blamed for not hammering faster.
lol

vote Morgoth

he's starting to get push, and you'll probably lynch me today, but i hope you at least watch him when I CF as inno.