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Mafia 40.75 or is that 39.62?

#1241 User is offline   Galayn Lord 

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:41 PM

remove vote

in case I have one by the way

#1242 User is offline   D'riss 

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:42 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 11:40 AM, said:

One thing that gets me, how the hell did the 5 roled inno make it to the last 8?

If true, that's fucking awesome.

healing your ass two nights in a row......lol

#1243 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:43 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

OK, fuck that, total reveal.

I was not honest when Mockra asked me if my innos were still alive, because I didn't get why he was asking me. I don't like giving too much info.

One more died, and it was Emurlahn. I was lying to "reveal" my partner as one of my inno finds and say Emurlahn was my partner, but if I need my codes I can't do that. So fuck it, I hope he will forgive me.

So, Serc is my partner.

Night 1 - Omtose, inno, dead
Night 2 - Galain, killer, dead
Night 3 - Kaschan, inno, alive
Night 4 - Emurlahn, inno, dead.

Anomandaris:
Night 1 - Korlat - killer - dead
Night 2 - Telas - inno - alive
Night 3 - Emurlahn - inno - dead
Night 4 - GL - inno - alive

That leaves Tennes as the last killer, or my old theory of you/Telas

If you can prove you are lovers with Serc, we still win.
2 finders, 2 healers, 1 CI = 5, standard scenario D'riss sketched - and the killer(s) are amongst Tennes, Telas, Anomandaris.
There is also a possibility of 2 NKs as we've been healing the known finder.
Anomandaris is certainly scum cause a RI has no reason to make a counterclaim.
EDIT: so even if GL and Serc doubt D'riss and me, by lynching Ano inno's do not lose, right?

In Anomandaris' scenario:
1) GL is scum. 7 players left, with a maximum of 2 more scum amongst them.
2) Anomandaris is finder. 6 players left, 2 scum.
3) D'riss and I are healers. 4 players left, 2 scum.
4) Telas, inno, but he could be another symp:

so: 3 left, 1 or 2 killers amongst Tennes, Serc, Kaschan.

However, if Ano is right, then there were no attempts made to kill Galayn Lord for his fake reveal, meaning the killers have a maximum 1 kill a night only.

Did I miss something?

This post has been edited by Mockra: 13 March 2009 - 03:46 PM


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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:44 PM

start talking Anno....you just dropped your bomb and have been mostly silent since

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:45 PM

View PostD'riss, on Mar 13 2009, 05:39 PM, said:

we can prove pairing if he is on

He's here :) Been working some maths of my own, but I'm not to be trusted around a calculator.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:46 PM

View PostMockra, on Mar 13 2009, 05:43 PM, said:

If you can prove you are lovers with Serc, we still win.


We prefer the term "masculine bonding", thank you. Plus, he has a cold these days, so...

Anyways, we can prove we communicate off-thread. I have to leave soon for a few hours, but eventually we'll catch each other and prove it. If he comes when I'm not around, he can show the codes.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:49 PM

I'm working up a PM mocra be back in a bit

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:49 PM

View PostD'riss, on Mar 13 2009, 05:49 PM, said:

I'm working up a PM mocra be back in a bit

okidoki

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:50 PM

Well, going on what GL says is true and they can communicate off thread -

7 CIed = Kas, Telas, 3 finders and 2 healers
1 left - Tennes

If for some screwed up reason both GL and Serc are paired symps a possible 3 scum team left

GL and Serc + Kaschan or Tennes right?

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:51 PM

For tonight, after we lynch Tennes, if the game continues it means either both you two or at least one of Anomandaris/Telas are killers.

If only Anomandaris is honest, that's a total of 4 killers: D'riss/Mockra, and Galain/Korlat

If everyone is honest, that's a total of 3 killers: Galain, Korlat, Tennes. Not sure paired how. That sounds little, did one die uninvestigated?

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 13 March 2009 - 03:52 PM


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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:54 PM

I don't think we can solve this logically today. :)

The reveals are rock-solid with no incompatibilities, so I don't see how we can poke holes in them.

Simplest explanation is they're honest, in which case we vote Tennes.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:56 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

For tonight, after we lynch Tennes, if the game continues it means either both you two or at least one of Anomandaris/Telas are killers.

If only Anomandaris is honest, that's a total of 4 killers: D'riss/Mockra, and Galain/Korlat

If everyone is honest, that's a total of 3 killers: Galain, Korlat, Tennes. Not sure paired how. That sounds little, did one die uninvestigated?

2 players must have died uninvestigated. Shadow, who in the last case is CIed automatically, and Rashan.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:56 PM

I have to go for a few hours, so hopefully Serc will come soon and solve our pairing for you guys.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:57 PM

View PostMockra, on Mar 13 2009, 05:56 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

For tonight, after we lynch Tennes, if the game continues it means either both you two or at least one of Anomandaris/Telas are killers.

If only Anomandaris is honest, that's a total of 4 killers: D'riss/Mockra, and Galain/Korlat

If everyone is honest, that's a total of 3 killers: Galain, Korlat, Tennes. Not sure paired how. That sounds little, did one die uninvestigated?

2 players must have died uninvestigated. Shadow, who in the last case is CIed automatically, and Rashan.


No, there's been many more: Gamelon, Silanah, Kessobahn, Fener.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:58 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 05:57 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on Mar 13 2009, 05:56 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

For tonight, after we lynch Tennes, if the game continues it means either both you two or at least one of Anomandaris/Telas are killers.

If only Anomandaris is honest, that's a total of 4 killers: D'riss/Mockra, and Galain/Korlat

If everyone is honest, that's a total of 3 killers: Galain, Korlat, Tennes. Not sure paired how. That sounds little, did one die uninvestigated?

2 players must have died uninvestigated. Shadow, who in the last case is CIed automatically, and Rashan.


No, there's been many more: Gamelon, Silanah, Kessobahn, Fener.

h, fuck. see, that's why I'm bad at maths... I went 8 investigated, 8 alive, 18 people playing at the start - rather than taking the list of finds and comparing it to post 1.

:)

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 03:58 PM

View PostMockra, on Mar 13 2009, 05:43 PM, said:

EDIT: so even if GL and Serc doubt D'riss and me, by lynching Ano inno's do not lose, right?


Hmmm, just saw this.

I didn't think of something like this, but I really have to go.

Honestly, if you guys can come up with a win-win-win scenario, I'm all for it

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 04:00 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 05:58 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on Mar 13 2009, 05:43 PM, said:

EDIT: so even if GL and Serc doubt D'riss and me, by lynching Ano inno's do not lose, right?


Hmmm, just saw this.

I didn't think of something like this, but I really have to go.

Honestly, if you guys can come up with a win-win-win scenario, I'm all for it

That only applies for the case wherre you are right :)

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 04:02 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 11:51 AM, said:

If everyone is honest, that's a total of 3 killers: Galain, Korlat, Tennes. Not sure paired how. That sounds little, did one die uninvestigated?



But if you and Serc are paired symps that means 3 killers 2 sympswhich with 2 healers and 1 finder works out about right. The only thing I really hate is how 3 of your 4 are dead. I can't investigate any of them. But I can investigate Kaschan tonight, maybe he's the killer playing the noob card? So we lynch Tennes, I investigate Kaschan, if Tennes isn't scum, we probably still have to lynch one of the Serc or GL pair, as 2 symps can still block the vote. I think that covers it, right?

Note: this is assuming WCS.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 04:07 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on Mar 13 2009, 07:02 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 11:51 AM, said:

If everyone is honest, that's a total of 3 killers: Galain, Korlat, Tennes. Not sure paired how. That sounds little, did one die uninvestigated?



But if you and Serc are paired symps that means 3 killers 2 sympswhich with 2 healers and 1 finder works out about right. The only thing I really hate is how 3 of your 4 are dead. I can't investigate any of them. But I can investigate Kaschan tonight, maybe he's the killer playing the noob card? So we lynch Tennes, I investigate Kaschan, if Tennes isn't scum, we probably still have to lynch one of the Serc or GL pair, as 2 symps can still block the vote. I think that covers it, right?

Note: this is assuming WCS.

Ehm, in that scenario, if we lynch Tennes and he's inno and we leave 2 paired symps + 1 killer, we lose - unless we healers get lucky.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 04:07 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on Mar 13 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 11:51 AM, said:

If everyone is honest, that's a total of 3 killers: Galain, Korlat, Tennes. Not sure paired how. That sounds little, did one die uninvestigated?



But if you and Serc are paired symps that means 3 killers 2 sympswhich with 2 healers and 1 finder works out about right. The only thing I really hate is how 3 of your 4 are dead. I can't investigate any of them. But I can investigate Kaschan tonight, maybe he's the killer playing the noob card? So we lynch Tennes, I investigate Kaschan, if Tennes isn't scum, we probably still have to lynch one of the Serc or GL pair, as 2 symps can still block the vote. I think that covers it, right?

Note: this is assuming WCS.

I have never heard of paired symps.............

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