[Nicodimas]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/33179408

I am pretty well preped for armageddon filling in some holes here and there. Now I am enjoying life. In the next month the big decison comes to play and we get to see if they pop the giant bubble they created with QE.

At this point it is a wait and see game to see what happens when they end QE.

I am not the least bit suprised if they walk away from the dollar. Our plan on our side is totally screwed and they know it. This generation of American's were spoiled and don't know how to properly deal with reality..well guess what here it comes !

When we come out the other side of hell we will hopefully not repeat the same mistakes...

[Cold Iron]

Interesting comments at the end of that article

[Shinrei]

The thing is, the second guy in the article who says "everything's fine" says it is fine because of there being a lot of liquidity. The problem is, that liquidity COMES FROM NO WHERE. The Fed makes it, borrowing on the future promise of payment by US taxpayers, the mortgage or "engagement until death" for us, our children and grandchildren. Who are no longer going to be paying taxes because they won't have any jobs. Furthermore, the lifeblood of the US economy since we stopped manufacturing stuff is consumption, and it's hard to consume when you have no money and no job.


We're freaking doomed! Wheeee!!!

Hey nic, how are you prepared? Whiskey and lots of shotgun shells?

P.S. I don't think the dow will drop to 6000 this year, but I will not be surprised to see the dollar continue to tank.

[Nicodimas]

The group are all preped out for a Zombie Apocalypse.

So we have bug in and bug out locations setup.The group has a year of food and all gear to fit in. Of course lots of reading material! We are in the planning stages of Plan C. We have devided up the forces into defensive, offensive and hybrid units.People with certain skillsets are what we are lacking, but everyone who joins has to work on there hardskills.

[Grand Goombah Graeld]

What group would this be? Joking?

[Nicodimas]

http://www.apple.com...ent/thecrazies/


That's preety much what you should count on here soon. Ready?

[Cougar]

I can't tell if Nic is joking or not. I've often suspected him of being a member of the local militia, with a basement full of beans and guns 'preparing for the coming war', anyone who has seen In Bruges should know what I'm talking about.

But the above few posts suggest he's joking, since they are absurd and/or fiction.

[Nicodimas]

I am not a member of a militia *LoL*. Just group of people concerned about our families in the coming years. Funny as it sounds by being in a group with zombies hunters, peoples wives object far far less as weird as it sounds.

It's for fun mainly, but we take the overall preparations very seriously.

Remember 1/3 of All Americans are preppers most people just don't talk about it at work, or neighbors for that matter. I always dissapointed knowing that only 1/3 prep though. People can buy 10 guns+ and 20k+ ammo, but not put a year worth of food away. For that matter they can collect books or whatever collectable, but forget to prep for when tshtf. Odd for sure.

[HoosierDaddy]

Well, let's make that an official count with the Americans who visit this thread.

Are you, or are you not, a "prepper"?

I am not. I have no bomb shelter or stashed supplies.

[Grand Goombah Graeld]

I'm not a "prepper" either.

[Nicodimas]

Thats cool if your not..your choice. A bunker would be amazing, but they are freaking expensive<1mil+>. Remember you never want to be a refugee as that will be important soon. Ultimately, at the end of day a CAT 5 storm could be coming and most people will just stay home as the floodwaters comes. After the industrial revolution people forgot something very basic about there inner survival instincts.

Back to reality -->

Back to the main topic at hand. Well my dad was born in detriot and that was over fifty years ago. He was born in the projects and it was real bad back then. I forget who said that looking at the weakest element of a society and how it is treated is how the society should be judged.

http://www.detnews.c...0396/1409/METRO

It will be interesting to see how the economic collapse of the dollar comes to play as it will probably just mean America decaying.

My quote of the day:

Quote

"Barney Frank, the Massachusetts Democrat who is chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said in an interview that the defaults were, in essence, worth it.

“I don’t think it’s a bad thing that the bad loans occurred,” he said. “It was an effort to keep prices from falling too fast. That’s a policy.”

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 09 October 2009 - 07:37 PM

[Grand Goombah Graeld]

From that article:
Tony Johnson came at 5 a.m. Johnson has not found a job in three years. "If I could win the mega lottery, I'd be tighty-iddy. I wouldn't be here," Johnson said. "But there's no peace 'cause there ain't no jobs. Everybody's looking for the freebie, the hand-out. They don't count me as unemployed 'cause I ain't drawing a check. It's like I don't even exist. But I do. Look around. There's thousands ... millions of us."

I'm gonna go ahead & sound a little heartless here. Anyone who hasn't found a job in THREE years, hasn't tried hard enough. Period. At 37, I've NEVER been out of work long enough to even start unemployment. I haven't always had a job I wanted/enjoyed/liked, but I could ALWAYS find something. I don't have a college degree. I've got a pretty good resume from my military experience and the experience in my current job, but that's it. No special skills, like machinist or welder ar any other skilled trade. Where I was living prior to St.Louis was a depressed economy also. In this economy, I can completely understand and sympathize with someone being out of work for weeks or even months. Not years. A search on monster returned 1,790 jobs in the Detroit area (granted, many are skilled/college/management jobs), and a search on hot jobs returned 1,684 similarly.
I'm currently a retail manager. I've had people come in for interviews in jeans and a football jersey with a toothpick hanging from their mouth. Applications FULL of prior jobs that were all 2-6 months. Ridiculous typos, non-existent grammar, no contact info for past employers, the list goes on. I had a person working for me a few months ago; single parent of 13 & 11 y/o kids, LOTS of family around to help with child care. This employee took absolutely NO initiative to do anything on their own. Had to have EVERYthing spelled out, didn't want to work, just hang out & talk on the phone. When it was announced we'd be letting someone go as part of a company wide reduction in force, this person actually ASKED to be the one I let go! Wanted to sit at home & collect unemployment. Their words to me!
Yes, this economy sucks. Yes, there are honestly people out of work through no fault of their own. I know for a FACT though, there are also a LOT of people who are just plain lazy and happy to suck on that government titty.

[Slow Ben]

If movies and books count as prepping, then i'm in.

If it doesnt, then, not so much.

[Nicodimas]

@ Grand:

Is that a people problem, or a problem with America? The reason I ask is I have a good friend from India and he was appaled when came here, served ten years in our military and got his citizenship. The hardest working person I know.

He hates the way we are innerwardly cowards and lazy when we have so many resources to grow.

Back off topic---> I thought this was cool and got a Email about it.
http://www.costco.co...AD-_-1-_-THRIVE

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 10 October 2009 - 12:45 AM

[Grand Goombah Graeld]

Honestly, since you asked, I do believe it's a problem with our culture here in America now. Way too many people see thteir jobs as just a means of getting by. They never do what they believe in or believe in what they do. Too many people in this day sincerely believe (in my estimation) that the only way they'll ever "make it" is if they luck into a sports contract, or make it in music or acting, or win the lottery or successfully sue someone. Not enough people truly believe they truly CAN do anything they want now. As a society, we sit on the sidelines watching other people live their lives. Our society is one that lives vicariously rather than taking ownership of their own lives and futures. No one believes they can make a difference. SO many people go and do the absolute bare minimum they believe they can get away with and they're happy with that. It baffles me, because I'm passionate about always doing the absolute best I can. Answer this - how many immigrants have you seen in unemployment lines? I'll almost guarantee you that as a ratio, i.e. immigrants:Americans overall and unemployed immigrants:unemployed Americans, the unemployed immigrants would be a near infitisemal percentage. People immigrate here & they friggin WORK. They look at every job they get as a step up. As Americans, we tend to look at every job as just another j-o-b. Just my opinion.

[Cold Iron]

This could actually be a pretty big contributor to the problem. We have come to expect in the west that life is easy, getting a job is easy and if you don't like working, getting the dole is easy too. But as we can see, countries that built themselves have now sold themselves and the can-do attitude that is needed to rebuild is gone. The authorities have failed to realise the rot. You can't just keep lending money to people who have no way to pay it back! Social security is about so much more than just welfare checks. It's about workers rights, it's about job security and an effective labour market. Gone are the days of securing the future of a nation through wheeling and dealing with backwater dictatorships, America no longer has the power to intimidate, they are overextended and the world knows it. Maybe the election of Obama is more than just an indicator of US equality, but of global equality. Immigration policy and border security is not enough to hold back the seething tide of poor and disadvantaged people of the world. With each day their piece of the pie grows as ours dwindles. Imbalance cannot be indefinitely maintained, the west cannot win this war

[Grand Goombah Graeld]

Look at the advent of "reality" shows. Look at how some people live and breath their favorite team. Look at how people get completely distraught, inconsolable when their favorite celebrity dies, as if it's the end of the world.
Look at how people search for an excuse to sue. Young people don't dream of being doctors and scientists, they dream of being football players, rock stars, actors.
People can intelligently discuss the stats of their favorite teams, the drama that went on in the latest episodes of their favorite shows and the merits of this movie or that, but couldn't tell you what a specific propsition they're supposed to vote on says or means. They've got no idea where to find a copy of the actual legislation they're law makers will be voting on.

[Cold Iron]

Some of this year's new billionaires:

Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahayan $4.9 billion Age: 39 United Arab Emirates
Aloys Wobben $3.5 billion Age: 57 Germany
Zhou Chengjian and Family $2.6 billion Age: 44 China
John Paul DeJoria $2.5 billion Age: 65 U.S.
Bernard Broermann $2.4 billion Age: 65 Germany
Leon Charney $1.4 billion Age: 67 U.S.
Wang Chuanfu $1.3 billion Age: 43 China
Femi Otedola $1.2 billion Age: 42 Nigeria
Joaquín Guzmán Loera $1 billion Age: 54 Mexico
Alexander Rovt $1 billion Age: 56 U.S.

US and Germany still churning them out, but out of this sample, 50% and growing from developing nations.

[Grand Goombah Graeld]

I'm more interested in those who've just managed to get their income into the 6 figure range. New entreprenuers.

[Cold Iron]

You don't need to be an entrepreneur to have a 6 or even 7 or 8 figure income. 9? No CEO makes 9.