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Knight of Death...? (Bent longsword)

#1 XIcy Hot Patchx

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 03:29 AM

I'm about 700 pages into Memories of Ice and I remember reading about someone who had a bent sword, but I cannot remember who. If it was told who this was previously in the book, please remind me of who it was, but if not, please don't. >_<

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 05:02 AM

It is never directly said who the person is (in MoI anyway). Based on a series of hints spoken by the Knight and about the Knight, you must divine his identity. If you don't figure it out, there's another big clue in HoC, and if that doesn't help, just ask us!

By at latest the end of Toll the Hounds I believe it has been directly stated his identity.

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worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 05:06 AM

Actually, it's stated in the indexes on the Houses pretty early on. Don't know if it's MOI, but I think it is in HOC.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 05:14 AM

HoosierDaddy, on Feb 27 2009, 12:06 AM, said:

Actually, it's stated in the indexes on the Houses pretty early on. Don't know if it's MOI, but I think it is in HOC.

Might depend on the version/country/edition too, but yeah I recall that (I think it appeared in HoC first for me)...

worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 07:48 AM

XIcy Hot Patchx, on Feb 27 2009, 03:29 AM, said:

The guy with the bent sword was one of the Gidrath warriors in Capustan, one of the temple elite warriors. Of course, that's the corporeal body - the rest was someone else... you'll work it out.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 02:05 AM

I was absolutely sure he was Harrlo (since his sword was also bent in the encounter with the Kell Hunters, or so I remember). I guess I was mistaken...

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 04:20 PM

Abalieno, on Mar 5 2009, 02:05 AM, said:

I was absolutely sure he was Harrlo (since his sword was also bent in the encounter with the Kell Hunters, or so I remember). I guess I was mistaken...

In the previous book there was a character who while trying to "save a child." A child they were "sworn to protect" non?

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 06:35 PM

I only got who this was on reread because I think the first time I was racing to the end but read it again and based on just DG and his words in MOI it is clear who it is.

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 07:25 PM

FAQ entry on this topic (suitable for people who have only read up to MoI).

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 08:09 PM

Possible spoiler: in HoC

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openly states that there has been an "addition to the house of death" when he and

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stumbles across the corpse of

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. Although I'm not sure if he says what role has been filled, it's actually written in the "Glossary" chapter at the end of the book, under High House Death.

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 05:36 PM

^thats who i thought it was also. in MoI i couldve sworn there was a reference to his burnished skin.

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 01:37 AM

Stiehl9s, on Jun 29 2009, 05:36 PM, said:

^thats who i thought it was also. in MoI i couldve sworn there was a reference to his burnished skin.

Yup, there definitely is. Don't have the book in front of me to quote, but I just read it.

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 01:41 AM

HoC spoiler:

I'm fairly positive:

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 02:44 PM

Well now that I am re-reading the story I've found the part that I was looking for. When the Barghast are in Capustan and Itkovian and the remaining grey swords are in Jelarkan's Palace (I swear this is a Jaghut tower), a remaining Gidrath, who serves Hood and whose companion had just died, has a bent longsword because he hit it against something. Maybe that was just extra detail, but that was who I origianally believed the man was. So was it just extra detail, or no? Also, is Jelarkan's Palace a Jaghut tower. Maybe we don't know yet.......

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 03:01 PM

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Also, is Jelarkan's Palace a Jaghut tower. Maybe we don't know yet.......

I'm rereading MoI right now, and had my own questions about Jelerkan's Palace. It is decribed as having odd angles (similar to the Shadowthrone castle when QuickBen goes to negotiate with Shadowthrone?) and being made of a material that things don't adhere to.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 03:12 PM

I doubt it would be Jaghut, as all we've seen from them are towers - Jelarkan's palace is huge. It might be that odd stone the Azath are made of, a K'chain invention or like Shadowkeep. The odd angles bit makes me think FA as well, but they live underground I think. If it is any of them, the question then comes why build it, and only that one? If there were others, they would be evident. Maybe it's tied in with the Tyrant of Darujhistan, although I don't remember mention of him ruling anything besides Darujhistan. However, I doubt it really matters. It hasn't up to Book 8.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 11:09 AM

the identity of the Knight of Death is answered by Cotillion at the end of HoC.

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 06:46 PM

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I remember that part, and this Gildrath is also always pacing and I think someone(Itkovian?) comments that the gildrath doesnt sleep. The thing I wonder, is this already

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at that point in MOI, kind of on loan from Hood? Or did this particular gildrath die after that scene and then have its dead carcass rented out to

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? Then, later, when the Khight of Death is talking to Coll, he says he cant remeber what sleep is likeand he is pacing. I am inclined to believe that when Itkovian is looking at him and thinking in Jelarkans palace, he is already the Knight of death...of course you would think Itkovian would recognize that, so its kind of an enigma. Comments?

I am not sure why we are spoilering this gentlemans name, since I thought this was for people who have read all of MOI, but since other people are doing it , I guess I will continue...

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 07:38 PM

It's perfectly clear who the Knight of Death is in MoI, but if people are not going to point it out I won't again.

The thing with the appearance doesn't make a lot of sense. It appears that (insert name of person here) has possessed a Gidrath who was sworn to Hood (whether he had already done so when the Gidrath appears). The problem is, it's later noted that he is of Malazan appearance with burnished skin. So how do we match this up? If he possessed another, why does he look like himself?