[Kaschan]

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

He is not my leader and we have seen evidence that he could be seen as a leader. Therefore he is the best lynch for today as there is a 66% chance that he is not of my team. Simple as that.

Answer me.

[Galayn Lord]

i mean, your own argument can be restated to apply to anyone, as long as you are sure they are not your leader. why are you then so inclined to so categorically lump anyone who disagrees with Galain's case as Kaschan's symps?
this type of behaviour reinforces the suggestion that your conviction stems from the fact that your leader's voting and you expect all those with you to follow.

[Galayn Lord]

crossposted with Kaschan's posts..

RE: Korlat. I believe he was reading a little while ago... he left before the second coming of Galin, iirc, so he'll have a decent bit of spam to wade through..

[Kessobahn]

Kaschan, on Feb 11 2009, 04:16 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

He is not my leader and we have seen evidence that he could be seen as a leader. Therefore he is the best lynch for today as there is a 66% chance that he is not of my team. Simple as that.

Answer me.

Wow, a case is not enough for you.. thats kind of sad. My voting for you is simple but people not voting for you can be seen as symping. The fact that so many people have tried to derail your lynch is evidence enough for me.

[Kaschan]

Come on Kesso, if the case on me is that obvious that those who don't follow after 5-6 hours of play are my "symps" (thus adding to the "case" - or is that all there is in the end?), then you should be able to re-state it.

Did you read mine on Galain? You don't agree, or it hits too close from home?

[Korlat]

Ampelas, on Feb 10 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

Case against Kaschan

This started as a dispute because Korlat claimed Kaschan wasn't Galain's leader and said in reply to the question of how he knew that "it's for me to know and you to find out" prompting Galain to conclude Korlat was Kaschan's symp

I claimed kaschan was not galains leader because galain was voting for him and making cases that he is a leader. A symp would never do that.
"Its for me to now and you to find out" was in response to galain asking how i knew we weren't on the same team. Which i did not know.
I said it to get a reaction out of someone who was blabbering too much and was seeing if he would make some sort of a slip.

I have no Idea weather kaschan or galain are on my side. I DO know none of these two are my leader. So in the end i wont be to unhappy to see either one of them go.

I am really hoping that they end up both being on the same side and not on mine. That would shut galain up me thinks.


Back to catching up....

[Kessobahn]

I feel your case is just an OMGUS like any other case against the one voting for you. Don't see why I should vote for him when you seem to be a better option. I really can't be bothered re stating the obvious, seems to be you prolonging the inevitable.

Edit: Cross-post with Korlat

This post has been edited by Kessobahn: 11 February 2009 - 08:26 AM

[Galayn Lord]

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Feb 11 2009, 04:16 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

He is not my leader and we have seen evidence that he could be seen as a leader. Therefore he is the best lynch for today as there is a 66% chance that he is not of my team. Simple as that.

Answer me.

Wow, a case is not enough for you.. thats kind of sad. My voting for you is simple but people not voting for you can be seen as symping. The fact that so many people have tried to derail your lynch is evidence enough for me.

lol, why should a case ever be enough for a person who feels like they're being set up?
The "sad thing" to do would be to lie back and "accept the inevitable".

I mean, provided Galain's not your master, the more you talk the greater the chances you'll let slip who it is... the game's about info, that comes in large portion from what we say. if we don't discuss things, we don't get much info.

[Galayn Lord]

Korlat, on Feb 11 2009, 09:24 AM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 10 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

Case against Kaschan

This started as a dispute because Korlat claimed Kaschan wasn't Galain's leader and said in reply to the question of how he knew that "it's for me to know and you to find out" prompting Galain to conclude Korlat was Kaschan's symp

I claimed kaschan was not galains leader because galain was voting for him and making cases that he is a leader. A symp would never do that.
"Its for me to now and you to find out" was in response to galain asking how i knew we weren't on the same team. Which i did not know.
I said it to get a reaction out of someone who was blabbering too much and was seeing if he would make some sort of a slip.

I have no Idea weather kaschan or galain are on my side. I DO know none of these two are my leader. So in the end i wont be to unhappy to see either one of them go.

I am really hoping that they end up both being on the same side and not on mine. That would shut galain up me thinks.


Back to catching up....

That might be wishtful thinking,

[Kaschan]

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

I feel your case is just an OMGUS like any other case against the one voting for you. Don't see why I should vote for him when you seem to be a better option. I really can't be bothered re stating the obvious, seems to be you prolonging the inevitable.

Just an OMGUS?

Obvious?


Wow, you can't be in good faith, so there's no point for me arguing with you.

[Kessobahn]

Galayn Lord, on Feb 11 2009, 04:26 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Feb 11 2009, 04:16 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

He is not my leader and we have seen evidence that he could be seen as a leader. Therefore he is the best lynch for today as there is a 66% chance that he is not of my team. Simple as that.

Answer me.

Wow, a case is not enough for you.. thats kind of sad. My voting for you is simple but people not voting for you can be seen as symping. The fact that so many people have tried to derail your lynch is evidence enough for me.

lol, why should a case ever be enough for a person who feels like they're being set up?
The "sad thing" to do would be to lie back and "accept the inevitable".

I mean, provided Galain's not your master, the more you talk the greater the chances you'll let slip who it is... the game's about info, that comes in large portion from what we say. if we don't discuss things, we don't get much info.

ll based on your defense of Kaschan, that could be considered "Slipping up" and proving the case. We are discussing things and its giving me all the information I need, how about you?

[Kessobahn]

Kaschan, on Feb 11 2009, 04:28 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

I feel your case is just an OMGUS like any other case against the one voting for you. Don't see why I should vote for him when you seem to be a better option. I really can't be bothered re stating the obvious, seems to be you prolonging the inevitable.

Just an OMGUS?

Obvious?


Wow, you can't be in good faith, so there's no point for me arguing with you.

Thank you for sitting back and "accepting the inevitable"

[Korlat]

Tennes, on Feb 10 2009, 11:26 PM, said:

I've summarised the Kaschan case here and here (but not the massive overreaction from Korlat).

I over reacted because galain was putting what i said out of context.
I didnt realize at the time who i was supposed to be symping. I didnt care. I was trying to give the spam bot a hard time.
All i wanted to do was see how galain reacted. And he reacted by assuming i definitely knew him not to be on my side. He came to this conclusion from an ambiguous statement, which is daft.

Now i never defended kaschan. All i did was try and explain that i have nothing to do with kaschan.
I realized that the way things were going (being pushed by galain) that there would be a lynching of kaschan followed by a lynching of me simply because galain added 2 + 2 and got 3.

meh...I dont care if you lynch kaschan. Go right ahead.
I would love to vote off galain next to see if they are on the same side because of his jumping to these erroneous conclusions he could be crippling his team, hopefully not my team.

[Korlat]

Meanas, on Feb 11 2009, 01:18 AM, said:

Ok well after taking a second look at the case on Kaschan (thanks Tennes) I see that I am being included as a possible symp to Kaschan. Well the only way I can get rid of that stigma is to

Vote Kaschan


Edit: I put quote tags around the vote instead of bolding it. I am an idiot. On this we can agree

So i vote for kaschan and its to "distance" or "make him seem not my leader"
Then you do it too?

hahaha...cassic.

[Galayn Lord]

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 09:29 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Feb 11 2009, 04:26 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Feb 11 2009, 04:16 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

He is not my leader and we have seen evidence that he could be seen as a leader. Therefore he is the best lynch for today as there is a 66% chance that he is not of my team. Simple as that.

Answer me.

Wow, a case is not enough for you.. thats kind of sad. My voting for you is simple but people not voting for you can be seen as symping. The fact that so many people have tried to derail your lynch is evidence enough for me.

lol, why should a case ever be enough for a person who feels like they're being set up?
The "sad thing" to do would be to lie back and "accept the inevitable".

I mean, provided Galain's not your master, the more you talk the greater the chances you'll let slip who it is... the game's about info, that comes in large portion from what we say. if we don't discuss things, we don't get much info.

ll based on your defense of Kaschan, that could be considered "Slipping up" and proving the case. We are discussing things and its giving me all the information I need, how about you?

, well since I KNOW that Kas isn't my leader (he could ofcourse be a teammate), i'm glad that at least you are getting all kinds of misconceptions in your head.

currently i'm accepting Kaschan's "galain is a leader" theory, since it strikes me as more plausible than "Korlat is kaschan's symp who screwed up royally" theory. If I am to accept that theory, it gives me an idea of the allegiances of certain players vis a vis Galain. now, to make any of that concrete, I would, of course, require a CF.

hence my vote is on a lynch that I think would provide me the most information.

if we were to follow Tennes' line of thinking, i'd have to lynch Kaschan, and then Korlat, and then someone else, and so forth to get any useful information.

EDIT: fixed "leader" to "symp"

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 11 February 2009 - 08:40 AM

[Kaschan]

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:30 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Feb 11 2009, 04:28 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Feb 11 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

I feel your case is just an OMGUS like any other case against the one voting for you. Don't see why I should vote for him when you seem to be a better option. I really can't be bothered re stating the obvious, seems to be you prolonging the inevitable.

Just an OMGUS?

Obvious?


Wow, you can't be in good faith, so there's no point for me arguing with you.

Thank you for sitting back and "accepting the inevitable"

I think that right now your only point is to pad posts after my case on Galain, while restating that the case on me is "obvious". By answering you I'm playing your game.

Galain must be your leader. He has to be, and if he's not then I apologize for the insult.

[Korlat]

Galayn Lord, on Feb 11 2009, 05:42 AM, said:

heh
well, i'm certainly not targettin him tonight

You are targeting someone!!!

A black mask would not target anybody for fear of death me thinks!!
That only leaves....

[Korlat]

Kaschan, on Feb 11 2009, 05:47 AM, said:

And the most obvious symp of Galain is Tennes.

His strategy involves constantly quoting posts from players that don't agree with the fact that a "symp" would be that dumb, so that those players panic and add to the train of the player who voted his master.

Honestly, none of you know which team I am, since I ain't no leader. So why do you care if someone accuses you of being my symp? We're ALL symps, so that's not a case or something to be afraid of. For all you know, you're being accused of being in a different team than you are, which in a merc game is gold.

Summary of the tactic:

- Galain, 1st of his team, spammer from hell to get heat, votes and night-kills.

- Gets a vote from me, his team knows I'm not with them

- As soon as he gets two votes, starts the "SYMP!" business to start the lynch.

- Tennes comes to help him and "SYMP!!" everyone who doesn't follow his master. Galain's team is 1/3 of the voting block, so they need others to get the lynch.

thats what i was thinking

[Korlat]

Mockra, on Feb 11 2009, 05:48 AM, said:

As for your thing about Korlat - I must say, I'd also be happy to see a Korlat lynch. It's semi-unlikely to happen though. Of course, the one other reason Korlat could claim knowing that Galain isn't in her faction, would be if she were the First/Third - but that doesn't account for low-level members.

How would i know galain is not on my team by being a first or third. I thought the 1st and 3rd dont know their entire team!!
In fact everyone has the same info. We all know who our leaders are...period.

Or did i miss something?

[Galayn Lord]

Korlat, on Feb 11 2009, 09:40 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Feb 11 2009, 05:42 AM, said:

heh
well, i'm certainly not targettin him tonight

You are targeting someone!!!

A black mask would not target anybody for fear of death me thinks!!
That only leaves....

now who's jumping to conclusions?

my statement's just an ambiguous as yours was. not to mention that our dear mod advised us all to challenge someone every night, regardless of your rank, since that's what he'd do.