[Telas]

Hmm - what I'd really like to know is how one person can be evenly distributed between two teams lol. Unless my maths is completely screwed, there's 5 people on one team and 6 on the other. Means that a leader lynch will be impossible for one team and damn tricky for the other. Guess the night actions are where this game is really going to be decided.

[D'riss]

Yep, one team's been given a pretty drastic advantage by pure luck.

Now just to figure out who got swapped and which team they're on now...

[Galayn Lord]

So, what's the plan now?

do we do a revealfest?
or do we go to night and let the numbered people settle this?

[Fener]

Man, Fire got burned! (My turn to bring in the pun )

The way I see the situation now, it's a shootout. It's going to be almost impossible to lynch a leader to start with, so I think it's reasonable to assume that a BM is going to be lynched today. After a few days of that, one of the teams should have the numerical advantage necessary to hack down the leaders during the day. Once one side gets ahead, they should be able to win unless the leaders manage to find their opposite numbers and knock them out before that happens.

If the team with 6 drops a player today, it's all square...if the team with 5 drops a player today, then going to have to hope they get lucky at night. Makes it all the more important to try and identify who the last Fire BM was so we can work out which side they're on now.

[Path-Shaper]

Can all players ensure provisionls are made, at this late stage int he game they are vital.

[Galayn Lord]

hmm, the way the NKs worked out makes me think the fire BMs went for someone numbered and got killed for it.


there are only several people of whose allegiances im fairly sure RE: my team/not my team.

those are pretty much the only votes im wiling to cast at this point, aside from going to night

[Kessobahn]

Well that was a productive night I guess, most nks so far O.o
But it does put us at a stand still...
Im off for a few hours

[Mockra]

O.o

Wow. I find myself having to agree with Galayn Lord on this one. There is no way there are that many people left to even kill.

Fire and Wind both lost one member normally, and one of them gained a member, technically.

[Mockra]

Like Kessobahn (no, we're not the same person O.o), I'm off for a bit. Will most likely have time for discussion this evening...if anyone else is on.

[Fener]

Mockra, on Feb 15 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

O.o

Wow. I find myself having to agree with Galayn Lord on this one. There is no way there are that many people left to even kill.

Fire and Wind both lost one member normally, and one of them gained a member, technically.

I don't understand what you mean here - normally? Do you have evidence to suggest that the other two kills last night weren't 'normal'?

[Galayn Lord]

lol, wouldn't shock me if he meant 'Ice" instead of "fire"

[Fener]

Galayn Lord, on Feb 15 2009, 02:08 PM, said:

lol, wouldn't shock me if he meant 'Ice" instead of "fire"

But even then, what does it mean that both Ice and Wind have lost one member normally?

[Galayn Lord]

how should I know?
he might mean that HP was lynched, and Sil got Nk-ed, hwich would be "normal"

while the Fire ppl dies from targetting someone above them.

maybe

lol, and no, Ihave no clue what the actions were, this is me speculating.

[Galayn Lord]

wow, seems the day after v-day's the slow one.

[Ruse]

I'm here... long drunk filled weekend. Crazy night and I agree that it looks like the Fire school tried to target some leaders. Thats a pretty brutal night for the fire team.

I really don't have the energy to go back right now and look up posts so, i'll check the thread occasionally and see if anything happens

[Galayn Lord]

doubt that it will

Fire's gona and aside from the single BM who switched schools, they lost.

we're down to a point where knowing their leader(s) gives a person knowledge of half or more of their faction. people should now be able to draw lines as to who's with them and who isn't and that leaads us to a daily stalemate.

[Ampelas]

Wow dead thread is really dead. I don't really have a particular suspect left. Looking at the survivors, I have virtually nothing on Gamelon, Telas, Mockra, Ruse or Kessobahn. I really can't remember much they have contributed or when they have come under suspicion. Serc I seem to remember has attracted some attention but I can't remember much that he has posted at all. I think I may go and have a look through his posts to see if I can see the case on him.

Of the top five posters:
I believe at a couple of points Fener has made cases but nothing really came of them, and despite a rather silly pissing contest with me (which I still blame him for ) I don't think he has done anything to arouse suspicions.
Similarly Dr'iss has contributed to serious discussions and not done much that I really see as suspicious.

[Ampelas]

Gah, stupid hotkeys....

Omtose was really active day 2 from memory but he has been rather quiet recently, whether that is because of the weekend I guess we will find out soon. I guess if he doesn't start contributing again his behaviour could be interpreted as a leader having got his post count up early and now content to hide.

On Galayn Lord, I have previously voiced my suspicions about how many posts he has and I felt he was in the same boat as what Tennes got himself lynched for, namely leading lynches and having people jump onto the same trains as him. I am still a little suspicious of him because of that, but nothing recently has really backed up my suspicions.

Well, there's a summary of my perceptions so far, hopefully this will stimulate some serious discussion.

[Ampelas]

Having looked through Serc's posts, I think the case on him is rather weak. He has been rather consistent in wanting Hood's Path dead but I don't see much wrong in that because everyone was suspicious of how the train on Hood's Path got spectacularly derailed night after night.

The last post by him however is quite strange. He claims to have identified two people not on his side, but refuses to identify them. I don't really see the reasoning behind that. I guess if it was because he thought the two were on different sides, therefore indirectly revealing his allegiance there's some explanation, but even then, he could just reveal one of them, and this would surely help his team by giving them a target?

The only reason I can see him not revealing either of the two he has spotted is that he is roled and wishes to NK the two he has identified.

Can anyone provide other ideas as to why he wouldn't reveal the people he has spotted? Or would Serc like to reply himself?

[Serc]

Ampelas, on Feb 15 2009, 06:18 PM, said:

The last post by him however is quite strange. He claims to have identified two people not on his side, but refuses to identify them. I don't really see the reasoning behind that. I guess if it was because he thought the two were on different sides, therefore indirectly revealing his allegiance there's some explanation, but even then, he could just reveal one of them, and this would surely help his team by giving them a target?

The only reason I can see him not revealing either of the two he has spotted is that he is roled and wishes to NK the two he has identified.

You're really phrasing things like this is Town vs. Killers.

It's a Merc game - I gain nothing by identifying my suspicions, especially if the other team has numerical superiority (as it may very well at this point, we have no idea which team has a +1 advantage).

In any case, Emurlahn turned out to be Fire, and I can't remember who the other one was - I was pretty drunk at the time that I wrote that.

I very much feel this game is going to come down to only Night actions. With two possibly balanced teams, there's really no way for anyone to make a case without revealing their faction and saying "All right, everyone on my team, this is who I think we should lynch." The subsequent train would consist of two groups of people: those who agreed because they think the target is on the other team, and members of the other team who know the target isn't there leader and so play along.

In any case, it's going to be ugly. And I don't care to reveal my faction to get the end-game rolling.