[Galayn Lord]

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 11:49 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Feb 14 2009, 11:48 PM, said:

go ahead...

damn Soviets just nuked me! ger.....

Huh? what game you playing?

I dug out my "Command and Conquer: The first decade" recently

currently playing last Allied mission of the original Red Alert

[Galayn Lord]

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 11:52 PM, said:

RA3 is my poison, Shogun Battleships bring death to all!

what's the graphics requirement for that one?

[Emurlahn]

Whatever it is, its probably too high for my piece of shit box.

[Galayn Lord]

, i'm running ATI with 64 MB of video memory.

I can't play stuff older than Dawn of War.

[Fener]

Sorry, got distracted.

Let me restate why I think you are trying to hide something.

So first of all you made a statement in which you give your views as to how Meanas is still alive, in which you include the possibility that Meanas was a leader but wasn't targetted by the Ice Leaders. However, you make no mention of what would have happened if he had been targetted by the Wind Leaders, nor show any sign that you had considered the possibility.

Surely, I think to myself, if you were making a post like that you would consider both possibilities, unless you had information that would make it impossible for the Wind leaders to target Meanas/you knew already why it was they didn't do it. So I call you up on it.

Eventually, this is the reason I get:

Ampelas said:

I guess my thinking was if Meanas was targeted by Wind and he was a leader, he would have died.

But if that was your thinking at the time, then surely it would have been included in your original post on the subject? That line of thinking, after all, is no different from what you were saying about the Ice Leaders before. So I conclude that the reason you have given is a load of rubbish. Why would you do something like that? Perhaps because you have some kind of extra information that we are not privy to regarding the decisions of the Wind Leadership.

So all that remains is for me to

Vote Ampelas

This post has been edited by Fener: 15 February 2009 - 12:03 AM

[Emurlahn]

Hmmm. So, Meanas is in fact on Ice, and Fener is symping him! BRILLIANT!

[Galayn Lord]

heh

in other news: FUCK!!!!

must be a damn trigger, since I blew up the tech centres this time...

BASTARDS!!!!!!

[Galayn Lord]

I just hope this doesn't turn into the thhird derailment of HP's train.

[Emurlahn]

Galayn Lord, on Feb 14 2009, 07:03 PM, said:

, i'm running ATI with 64 MB of video memory.

I can't play stuff older than Dawn of War.

:Patch:

[Emurlahn]

Galayn Lord, on Feb 14 2009, 07:13 PM, said:

I just hope this doesn't turn into the thhird derailment of HP's train.

Well, then, don't leave the train. Of course, if nobody else shows up between now and deadline, we won't have needed a derailment, will we have.

[Fener]

Emurlahn, on Feb 14 2009, 07:11 PM, said:

Hmmm. So, Meanas is in fact on Ice, and Fener is symping him! BRILLIANT!

Such incredible powers of deduction you have, Emurlahn! Or should that be Sherlock?

[Emurlahn]

Just, Holmes, thank you. Now, fill my pipe.

[Ampelas]

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 09:17 PM, said:

Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:

The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.

Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?

No but I was working under the assumption that Wind must have decided, yes let's go target ice before it's too late, hence the ice night death.

After all, he was agitating wind to attack ice. If he had failed to do that, then Wind leaders would have gone after him I guess and probably killed him if he was leader.

Fener, on Feb 15 2009, 12:03 AM, said:

Sorry, got distracted.

Let me restate why I think you are trying to hide something.

So first of all you made a statement in which you give your views as to how Meanas is still alive, in which you include the possibility that Meanas was a leader but wasn't targetted by the Ice Leaders. However, you make no mention of what would have happened if he had been targetted by the Wind Leaders, nor show any sign that you had considered the possibility.

Surely, I think to myself, if you were making a post like that you would consider both possibilities, unless you had information that would make it impossible for the Wind leaders to target Meanas/you knew already why it was they didn't do it. So I call you up on it.

Eventually, this is the reason I get:

Ampelas said:

I guess my thinking was if Meanas was targeted by Wind and he was a leader, he would have died.

But if that was your thinking at the time, then surely it would have been included in your original post on the subject? That line of thinking, after all, is no different from what you were saying about the Ice Leaders before. So I conclude that the reason you have given is a load of rubbish. Why would you do something like that? Perhaps because you have some kind of extra information that we are not privy to regarding the decisions of the Wind Leadership.

So all that remains is for me to

Vote Ampelas

This was the first post after my original post, I think it states my position pretty clearly, I was working under this assumption and also put my theory that if Wind had attacked, then Meanas would probably be dead, I don't see your case at all...

[Galayn Lord]

Emurlahn, on Feb 15 2009, 01:11 AM, said:

Hmmm. So, Meanas is in fact on Ice, and Fener is symping him! BRILLIANT!

and you are signalling your master letting him know you're with him too, ever-so-subtly?

[Fener]

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 09:17 PM, said:

Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:

The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.

Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?

No but I was working under the assumption that Wind must have decided, yes let's go target ice before it's too late, hence the ice night death.

After all, he was agitating wind to attack ice. If he had failed to do that, then Wind leaders would have gone after him I guess and probably killed him if he was leader.

This was the first post after my original post, I think it states my position pretty clearly, I was working under this assumption and also put my theory that if Wind had attacked, then Meanas would probably be dead, I don't see your case at all...

The fact that you assume the Wind Leaders decided to attack Ice before it is too late doesn't follow from the fact that a member of Ice died in the night unless you think that Shadow was an Ice leader. Otherwise, you are still making assumptions that can only, as far as I can tell, derive from knowing what is going on inside the head of a Wind Leaders.

And what evidence was there that Shadow was an Ice Leader? I've gone back through his posts, but I don't really see anything. Once again, seems like a big stretch.

So no, not convincing to me.

[Emurlahn]

Galayn Lord, on Feb 14 2009, 07:29 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on Feb 15 2009, 01:11 AM, said:

Hmmm. So, Meanas is in fact on Ice, and Fener is symping him! BRILLIANT!

and you are signalling your master letting him know you're with him too, ever-so-subtly?

If you picked up on it, it wasn't very subtle, was it?

[Emurlahn]

And no that's not a reveal, its just a clever comeback.

[Emurlahn]

Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 07:42 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 09:17 PM, said:

Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:

The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.

Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?

No but I was working under the assumption that Wind must have decided, yes let's go target ice before it's too late, hence the ice night death.

After all, he was agitating wind to attack ice. If he had failed to do that, then Wind leaders would have gone after him I guess and probably killed him if he was leader.

This was the first post after my original post, I think it states my position pretty clearly, I was working under this assumption and also put my theory that if Wind had attacked, then Meanas would probably be dead, I don't see your case at all...

The fact that you assume the Wind Leaders decided to attack Ice before it is too late doesn't follow from the fact that a member of Ice died in the night unless you think that Shadow was an Ice leader. Otherwise, you are still making assumptions that can only, as far as I can tell, derive from knowing what is going on inside the head of a Wind Leaders.

And what evidence was there that Shadow was an Ice Leader? I've gone back through his posts, but I don't really see anything. Once again, seems like a big stretch.

So no, not convincing to me.

Well, GL and I both stated having strange gut feelings about Shadow, does that count?

[Fener]

Hmm...yeah, I guess that counts as something. Care to elaborate on what that strange gut feeling was all about?

[Galayn Lord]

Emurlahn, on Feb 15 2009, 01:52 AM, said:

Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 07:42 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 09:17 PM, said:

Fener, on Feb 14 2009, 09:05 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Feb 14 2009, 02:47 PM, said:

The way I see it,
Either Meanas is actually a fire leader and for some strange reason ice leaders did not decide to target him
Or more likely, he is fire but not a leader and got guarded when the leaders of ice tried to "ice" him in the night (sorry couldn't resist) .
The final option could be that he is actually a leader of wind and just using his reveal to direct his team as well as garnering support from the remaining fire who believe he is helping them and is a blackmask/ 7th fire.

Underline is mine. Why would you say Ice leaders only? Are you implying that there is only one Wind leader left?

No but I was working under the assumption that Wind must have decided, yes let's go target ice before it's too late, hence the ice night death.

After all, he was agitating wind to attack ice. If he had failed to do that, then Wind leaders would have gone after him I guess and probably killed him if he was leader.

This was the first post after my original post, I think it states my position pretty clearly, I was working under this assumption and also put my theory that if Wind had attacked, then Meanas would probably be dead, I don't see your case at all...

The fact that you assume the Wind Leaders decided to attack Ice before it is too late doesn't follow from the fact that a member of Ice died in the night unless you think that Shadow was an Ice leader. Otherwise, you are still making assumptions that can only, as far as I can tell, derive from knowing what is going on inside the head of a Wind Leaders.

And what evidence was there that Shadow was an Ice Leader? I've gone back through his posts, but I don't really see anything. Once again, seems like a big stretch.

So no, not convincing to me.

Well, GL and I both stated having strange gut feelings about Shadow, does that count?

I believe I said I thought Shadow was Fire
it came fromthe way he kept voting same as Tennes.