[Aptorian]

Terez you just don't know when to quit.

Seriously, listen up when the moderators and admins tell you something. One request for self moderation should be all that is needed.

Stop pushing the limit. It's not cute and it gets old.

[Terez]

I'm just saying...it's the freaking Inn. Since when do we give a shit about derailing Inn threads? I seriously think you guys just get bored sometimes and feel the need to flex the mod muscle for no purpose, and if you're going to ban me for telling it like it is, then the point is proven even further.

[Aptorian]

See the thing is it, shouldn't be us guys and you guys. It should be a couple of members with the power to moderate and the rest understanding that somne guidelines need to be upheld. We're a community, not a schoolyard.

If you are banned, and I fully expect you to be when ever Cougar comes back, it's not because you derailed the topic or because you've been spamming. It will be because you can't take a hint. When a moderator prunes your posts or asks you, hopefully nicely, to not do something, it means STOP! It doesn't mean that you should continue just a bit further or begin bitching about it. It certainly doesn't mean that you should make a flippant reply to a stern warning. That is going to be what gets you banned.

Moderators shouldn't need to act like parents, but you're acting like an adolescent schoolgirl who feels a need to test everyone and everything, boldly post what nobody really needs to know and stick it to the man. It's stupid, Terez. Because us moderators and admins don't want to bully people, but it's not like we're just going to keep explaining ourselves if the message after numerous warnings, post deletions and prior bannings isn't getting through.

Not everyone enjoys your attitude, Terez. Personally I find you amusing but you act like you're fighting for some just cause when in fact you're just sturring up a small pond that really doesn't need such fuzz.

Enjoy your ban when it comes through. At least the Drama is entertaining for the rest.

[Cougar]

I'm not banning her Apt, let her whine. The stuff I deleted was because discussing the various properties of the cervix is not suitable, one or two mentions, a bit of a joke, fair enough, but that started to resemble yet another tiresome opportunity for Terez to get her e-rocks off.

[Macros]

To think I missed an intellectual discussion covering the merits of Bon Jovi's Cervix.
Woe is me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whilst this will likely garner me a reputation as someone who lurks under bridges devouring goats, I feel compelled to request the demon of shadow climbs down from that lofty saddle he is perilously perched on, lest he injures himself with all this heroic posturing.
Its the Inn, the mezbearpig clearly didn't mind the digression (the original that initiated the pissing contest) and joined in the rambling, with a quite witty remark actually. The spider fetish lady didn't start the subsequent cervix digression, regardless of her continuation down that path, deleting the offending posts is a simple procedure. A banning is quite simply ridiculous in this situation, I'm quite sure mezla isn't offended in the slightest by the random direction the thread took, the inn is for grins no?

[frookenhauer]

What on earth are you suspended for?...I'm reading the posts now...BRB

[frookenhauer]

I'm still not sure why you have been suspended / banned. Whats going on? I'm with Mac on this one...What he said!

[Mezla PigDog]

Got to say I agree with Terez on this one! Threads are consistently more derailed and with more dodgy content on a regular basis. She is only getting this treatment because of priors with the mods. Straw that broke the camels back perhaps. I won't go on because I couldn't be bothered to be a mod so don't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to criticism.

[frookenhauer]

Mezla PigDog, on Feb 7 2009, 05:29 PM, said:

Got to say I agree with Terez on this one! Threads are consistently more derailed and with more dodgy content on a regular basis. She is only getting this treatment because of priors with the mods. Straw that broke the camels back perhaps. I won't go on because I couldn't be bothered to be a mod so don't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to criticism.

But in this case she just stuck up for how the inn operates an stayed with it. I'm in the Inn every evening and I see some outrageous shit posted and whatever she was talking about with regards to cervix wotsits is probably along the same lines. Its funny, just a little while ago I started that are we becoming less well behaved or something thread and pretty much every single person who regularly posts said bollocks to that! And now this? I understand that mods have to stick together, but I'm surprised that you backed his play Apt.

Terez is probably one of the most colourful people on here and this suspension smacks of vengeance for past misdeads.

[Imperial Historian]

When your suspended you should stay suspended.

Previously Hetan had just warned you, which automatically suspends you for 5 days, this may now be extended. You were suspended for repeated posts which contravened forum rules, and a refusal to self moderate, as Apt said in his post.

In the future if you have issues with the moderation policy on the board take it up with an administrator/Hetan.

If I was moderating the inn, from my brief perusal of some of the topics around some of you would have been banned some time ago, this boards primary purpose is book discussion, is recommended by the publishers and is representative of the author. Since some of his audience is under sixteen, is it too much to expect a little self moderation? There are plenty of opportunities for adult conversation elsewhere on the wide world of the internet. We're a remarkably relaxed group of moderators, I'd hate it if we had to start policing the inn try for a little self-moderation please so we don't have to kill the free wheeling nature of the place with excessive moderation.

[Stalker]

Wait who are you^^, and how do you know the inner workings of this place??

(go with it, you'll be safee)

[Stalker]

No safe with an extra e for emphasis

[Aptorian]

Banned Terez, on Feb 7 2009, 05:22 PM, said:

It's not us guys vs you guys until you guys start to impose restrictions on me that have never been imposed on anyone else before. The Inn is all about derailed threads, and has been ever since I joined. It was a clear show of mod-flex, and clearly personal.

While I personally enjoy a bit chaos in an off-topic forum, derailment of threads and complete hi-jacks, have never been allowed. It has in the past been much more restricted when Menandore and Jennifer were active mods. You should enjoy the fact that it is cool-cats like Rodeo and Abyss who run the Inn now, because in the past such derailment would have been delt with much more harshly.

Banned Terez, on Feb 7 2009, 05:22 PM, said:

It's because I'm not the type to sit back and go "oh okay" when a mod (or two, or three) is being an ass for no reason.

No. You feel like you're being treated unfairly because you've managed to gain the attention of every mod and admin on the board with your disregard for repeated warnings and prior bans. It's like the kid in the classroom who is always the one who laughs the loudest and makes the most noise during the class and doesn't understand why the teacher is always comming down on them and not the others.

The rest of us (yeah, me aswell, I'm a terrible spammer at times) realise when we're stepping over the line, when we write or post an image that is offensive, when we start on a subject that is actually not fit for discussion in a public forum, etc. We accept it when we're told to keep it in line. We're able to self moderate mostly.

But not you. Noooo, for you it's a personal attack. Well, you know what? You make it personal for the mods when you don't listen to them. Yes, they'll keep comming down on you when you step out of line. Why? Because you stay in the front of their mind when every time they notice someone being a nuissance or crossing a line they see you doing it ten times.

Banned Terez, on Feb 7 2009, 05:22 PM, said:

Who ever claimed that everyone did? Just because mods don't like me isn't a good reason for people to start making up new rules just because I'm involved. There have been plenty of times when the mods have said something to me and I've taken the hint. Why? Because their modding was consistent with the rules and consistent with the reality of the board. You guys just only remember the times when I DARE to defy you.

I was going to quote the rules stickied in the Inn, but I see they've been removed. Which I guess is a part of this problem.

But it should be obvious that derailling a topic is bad. What is worse is if two mods have to ask you to stop and you mouth of at them for being so rude to actually think they can tell you what you can and can not do in the Inn.

There's also a, perhaps unwritten, rule... I think it's somewhere, that people are not to start topics on/debate subjects of an offensive nature. Generally try and keep stuff on the level that any member that visits the forum won't be offended or otherwise feel bothered by the nature of the item. This also includes talking about stimulating the cervix. And again, you were just given a warning and asked to change the subject, but Nooo, you have to debate it with the mods instead of just letting it go and move on.

Me thinks we need to rules of the Inn re-stickied.

And for the record, I really aren't most serious mod there is, but when somebody needs to start making drama over the ruling of a moderator... it is a problem. The less shit we create the less active the mods need to be and the longer leash there can be on everything. Start making noise over everything and the mods are gonna become cranky.

Gods... I'm turning into Folken

EDIT: And now after making this longwinded contradictory post I see Terez just continues the bullshit *sigh*

@ Frook - Like you say, not like me to have problem with peoples posts and I rarely do. I just have problem with a member not just listening to the mods.

[frookenhauer]

Terez. Give it up. I can't defend you if you do stuff like this, please!

[Aptorian]

Let me just announce that Terez complete disregard for... well... everything has now stirred up the Elder Ones from the deep sleep.

New guidelines about spam and forum etiquette is on the table.

Funny how we have to go through this every 6 months.

[frookenhauer]

Er...If anyone is waiting for a new defense for Terez from me, I already said what I was going to say