[Vengeance]

Bent, on 06 March 2010 - 01:13 AM, said:

This place needs an update mod gods (looks knowingly at Ment) -

OP needs to include

Bwgan - chameleon
The Dude - Ghost
Peanutbutta - Analyst
T45 - Turncoat (was backstabber, but this is more refined)


Still needing nominations
Shin
Hoosierdaddy
Baudin
MTS
D'rek
Sixty
Stalker
Sir Thursday

I may have missed some - gonna do a role call - anyway if anyone gets a chance could they change the OP.

I will second all of them..

[Bent]

If your gonna nominate them, you need to come up with names for them. Or they can come up with their own, either way.

[Morgoth]

Shin should be Shinobi

D'rek could be Warleader, Field Marshal, General or any other fitting with the whole war games thing.

[HoosierDaddy]

Well hell, at least I can see this forum now.

Well done on that part.

I feel like death. Bleh.

This post has been edited by H.D.: 10 March 2010 - 07:49 AM

[Yellow]

Have I posted this before? Who can say.

I think that the cards should be interchangeable. It's nice and all for everyone to have their own cards, but I think there should be a fixed number of cards and people should be able to win them off other people if play deserves it. Decided by poll or something, obsviouly with some of those cards it would take something exceptional to win it. Others, not so much.

[Morgoth]

I disagree. That would be a level of competitiveness too many. It;s fun to compete to an extent; the MoM is a good initiative, but going too far in that direction would hurt the game I feel.

[Jump Around]

Oh, that's why. I noticed Yellow's been gunning for Khell's card for quite a few games.

[Yellow]

Your spleen. My lunch.

Anyway, I wouldn't imagine people would actually play with the idea that they would want to win cards, it's just an idea. Is the best case builder still the guy who built that case in game 4? I can't remember either way, but you know what I'm getting at. Nobody wants to be the Khell of High House Mafia.

[HoosierDaddy]

There are some solid ass Mafia players that still need names people! Get on your creative horses!

STD, Stalker, Shin, D'rek, Baudin and Sixteh should have names by now.

[Yellow]

Without trying to denigrate those players, I would say that this is the point, no? Someone can play very well, but if nothing particular stands out, then is a card deserved? i.e. if you can't think of a card for these guys, maybe there is no card for these guys. Think of the Malazan books. Would a generally very good soldier deserve a position in a house, or does it take more than that?

I think we need to limit the cards and have people fight over them. Much more fun

I'm also the first to admit that my own card was based on like one or two games, so I'm prepared to give it up for the greater good! Let's limit the cards, get rid of the cards-for-the-sake-of-it attitude and let the great players take up a more hallowed position.

This post has been edited by Yellow: 08 May 2010 - 05:01 PM

[HoosierDaddy]

Well, I could come up with names if I wanted to. But, seeing as how I don't really care to have a card, I thought I'd leave it up to you.

D'rek - Wildcard of High House Mafia. (Cause she creates wild games and I can't get her 80's Horror play out of my head)

Shin - Mesmerizer of High House Mafia (Hard to lynch.)

Sir Thursday - Processor of High House Mafia (Very thorough and reasoned play.)

There's three. And, I don't want one. Unless it's name is Seriously? of High House Mafia.

[Mentalist]

The whole point of a card is that is commemorates a player's unique accomplishment, somehtign that makes him stand out WAY above everyone else, a moment we still talk about like 20 games later.

I mean, no one will ever forget how in that first Benses game, Yellow revealed a partnered code on Day 1, getting our 2 healers lynched/killed in the process, and his PM to SH was "Seriously, that code's so obvious, it's GOT to be FAKE!"

or Vengy's play the first time he was a symp, in that game where Ishael and Obdigore were the 2 killers who didn't know each orther.

If Stalker, D'rek, or Shin haven't done anything that memorable, it's only a matter of time till they do.

[HoosierDaddy]

You Card-Holders in your ivory towers. You don't think it might be just a "bit" harder to do something "unique" now than it was at first? Hmmmm?

[Mentalist]

not necessarily. Mafia presens numerous opportunities for both genius and stupidity.

more so now, actually. When we first started playing around with the idea of a High House, we used almost exclusively Ericksonian layout (King/Queen/Knight/Mason/Assasin/Soldier/etc)

since we've moved on from that (with roles like Decoder, Doppleganger, Ghost), the opportunities are now endless.

[HoosierDaddy]

I suppose I'm at the opposite extreme end of Yellow's perspective, while you are somewhere in the middle. I view them as being superfluous, as everybody knows who the good players are, for the most part, and they are simply used to designate people who play quite a bit.

This post has been edited by H.D.: 08 May 2010 - 07:28 PM

[Mentalist]

High House Mafia

King-Morgoth, for being the original Games forum Admin
Queen-Gem Windcaster, for being female
Knight- Bent for Mafia 21 or 22
Lover - Tapper, we all know why
Assassin- Gavin, for Poisoning everyone in Mafia 17
Soldier- Silencer, for leader vigging 2 people in Mafia 17
Seer (Finder) - Bubba for Mafia 19
Magi (Healer)- vacant
Herald -dkt, for railroading people in mafia 17
Jester- Macros, for epic drunk rants (Mafia 13.5, 17, etc)
Weasel - JA, for Mafia 17 (EATER!!!!!!!!!)
Masons- D'rek + DiBs, for making us the most twisted set-ups known to man
Martyr - Mentalist, for repeatedly pointing out a winning strategy, then getting vigged for it.
Traitor (Symp) - Vengeance, for epic sympage in Mafia 13,5
Condemned - q21, for a spectacular track record of 5-6 Night 1 NKs in a row, starting with Mafia 14
Gaurd/Gard - Lokiman, for mafia 17, where he didn't once spell it correctly. Also, for guarding Gavin for 3 nights straight in the end, enforcing a "stalemate"-like situation (but not really)
Saboteur - Khellendros, for a fake reveal as finder in Mafia 23, as well as other game-imploding moves later on
Decoder - Yellow, for Mafia 27, finding a code...
Prophet - Grief, for Mafia 27, correctly guessing among who to lynch..
Mute - Acehunter, for Mafia 31 lurkage that eventually got him lynched
Doppleganger/Shifter - alt 146, for his spectacular play switching his declared allegiances in Mafia 31.
Ensign- Mocker, for mafia 31.
Chameleon - bwgan, for hiding in plain sight
Ghost - The Dude, for being unlynchable
Cynic - Malaese
Survivor - Masterblue, for being ht elast inno alive when the Predator and the Bitch killed each other in Aliens 2.0
Analyst - Peanutbutta
Turncoat - Talfagoron/morgoth45, for his spectacular implosions in several games in a row, including his scum reveal in the Vampires game
Spysat- Obdigore--stepped down from the Mason position, this card is for the LOST mafia...

possible requests
Brewer- Kurt Montadon, as captain of HH Beer, not really mafia, related
Druggie/Equalizer - ATP, for Mafia 24, Deprogrammer role.
Ninja/Havoc/something else that stirs shit up- J_slr, for the chaos he created when he decided to spam up the Rome game.

following people have not made any selections/been nominated, and are thus, untill further notice, acolytes:
Baudin
Lacedaemonian
Lisheo
Spidey
Stalker
Sir Thursday
Impirion
Sixty
Edrigan
Defiance
Twelve

[Mentalist]

major changes:

D'rek has been made Mason, since Obdi stepped down from that position.
Obdi made Spysat.

Added names for Masterblue, The Dude, PB, Malaese, bwgan, t45
updated Acolyte list.

[HoosierDaddy]

Look at those game numbers. Look at post 73. Then look at those game numbers again.

Edit: Evidently I'm feeling catty today. I have no idea why I'm bothering with this, lol.

This post has been edited by H.D.: 08 May 2010 - 07:46 PM

[Shinrei]

I nominate HD to be CrabbyCakes of HHM.

[Morgoth]

Man, that list makes me proud of the Culture game all over again. Shame I have to share the glory with DiBs, but what can you do.