[Kessobahn]

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 02:00 PM, said:

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 02:58 PM, said:

 Kessobahn, on Jan 22 2009, 02:26 PM, said:

I asked Emurlahn whom they targeted for a night kill, knowing that the killers want the cult dead as much as the innocents do, if perhaps not more so. Emurlahn, trying to be sneaky said that he targeted either Kessobahn or Fener. He must be tearing his hair about not picking another alt there .. But I was not targeted, so that leaves Fener, and it got me thinknin: If I was the necro, who would I target the first day? And it hit me I probably would've targeted myself. Night 1, trying to predict the night kills is nigh impossible unless there's been a reveal. By protecting themselves, the Necromancers insured they'd not fall to an unlucky shot. After all, with them gone the faction goes with them and they automatically lose the game. They still had one to use on someone else too.

I am convinced that Fener is the Necromancer, and when he comes up guilty, I believe we should go for Kaschan next, though here I have less to go on.

Fener

Wait you're saying that based on questioning emurlahn and him saying that he targetted either you or Fener that Fener must be the Necromancer? That doesnt make any sense, for the person to have survived they must have been recuited and hence arent the necromancer, or there BP or got healed but I dont see how it points at them being the necromancer really.
Im not entirely sure I believe this reveal as your conclusions seem to make no sense. So i think its more likely that you've revealed medium to try and halt the case on you.
because of this and for the reasons i posted earlier
remove vote
Vote Kessobahn

Erm...what if he IS the medium.
Eager to get rid of the CF hey?

No it just struck me as pure desperation because of the flawed reasoning. I dint quite think through it enough. Now im just hoping that Serc wasnt the medium.

If serc was the medium, we would not have received the cf

[Galayn Lord]

Or he could very well be telling the truth about being medium, that doesnt stop him from being the recruit. Especially as he himself says he could have been targetted by emurlahn. In a game like this Its not safe to assume that the people with these roles are innocents.

[Galayn Lord]

 Kessobahn, on Jan 22 2009, 02:04 PM, said:

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 02:00 PM, said:

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 02:58 PM, said:

 Kessobahn, on Jan 22 2009, 02:26 PM, said:

I asked Emurlahn whom they targeted for a night kill, knowing that the killers want the cult dead as much as the innocents do, if perhaps not more so. Emurlahn, trying to be sneaky said that he targeted either Kessobahn or Fener. He must be tearing his hair about not picking another alt there .. But I was not targeted, so that leaves Fener, and it got me thinknin: If I was the necro, who would I target the first day? And it hit me I probably would've targeted myself. Night 1, trying to predict the night kills is nigh impossible unless there's been a reveal. By protecting themselves, the Necromancers insured they'd not fall to an unlucky shot. After all, with them gone the faction goes with them and they automatically lose the game. They still had one to use on someone else too.

I am convinced that Fener is the Necromancer, and when he comes up guilty, I believe we should go for Kaschan next, though here I have less to go on.

Fener

Wait you're saying that based on questioning emurlahn and him saying that he targetted either you or Fener that Fener must be the Necromancer? That doesnt make any sense, for the person to have survived they must have been recuited and hence arent the necromancer, or there BP or got healed but I dont see how it points at them being the necromancer really.
Im not entirely sure I believe this reveal as your conclusions seem to make no sense. So i think its more likely that you've revealed medium to try and halt the case on you.
because of this and for the reasons i posted earlier
remove vote
Vote Kessobahn

Erm...what if he IS the medium.
Eager to get rid of the CF hey?

No it just struck me as pure desperation because of the flawed reasoning. I dint quite think through it enough. Now im just hoping that Serc wasnt the medium.

If serc was the medium, we would not have received the cf

Oh yeah forgot about that part of the role

[Ruse]

Well

I suppose the only thing we can do is lynch fener and find out?
The problem is if he comes back inno...then what?

Did ehmur have to tell you the truth?

[Kessobahn]

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 03:05 PM, said:

Or he could very well be telling the truth about being medium, that doesnt stop him from being the recruit. Especially as he himself says he could have been targetted by emurlahn. In a game like this Its not safe to assume that the people with these roles are innocents.

surely I would've left that out of the equation then, no? Seeing that I would've known myself whether I had been recruited or not..

[Kessobahn]

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

Well

I suppose the only thing we can do is lynch fener and find out?
The problem is if he comes back inno...then what?

Did ehmur have to tell you the truth?

There was no reason for him not to, and every reason to be truthful. 1 of the killers killed night 1 makes the rest of the team a lot weaker compared to the necro team than it should be. Getting a necro or two benefits the killers as much as the innocents.

[Ruse]

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 03:05 PM, said:

Or he could very well be telling the truth about being medium, that doesnt stop him from being the recruit. Especially as he himself says he could have been targetted by emurlahn. In a game like this Its not safe to assume that the people with these roles are innocents.

Ofcourse...but then i doubt he would have put his own name in his story.
He could have just said that Ehmur told him they where kiling fener...period.

[Kessobahn]

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

Well

I suppose the only thing we can do is lynch fener and find out?
The problem is if he comes back inno...then what?

Did ehmur have to tell you the truth?

Then you should certainly consider lynching me. But, I am quite confident in my reasoning, even if you don't seem to be. Fener is evil.

[D'riss]

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

Well

I suppose the only thing we can do is lynch fener and find out?
The problem is if he comes back inno...then what?

Did ehmur have to tell you the truth?

No, PS posted a clarification very early on that the dead could lie to the medium

[Galayn Lord]

PS clarified earlier that the dead are allowed to lie in there response. But yeah Il agree I dont think hed have had much reason to lie there. Il give you the benefit of the doubt for now but I dont like the reasoning you used, It just seems too stupid like it was a last minute addition out of desperation to stop your train.

[Ruse]

Since fener DID reveal a code. Even though its a bogus code. It is real scummy to do. (see thyr people do make mistakes )
And in light of the reveal.

Vote Fener

Lets see what happens

[Ruse]

 D'riss, on Jan 22 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

Well

I suppose the only thing we can do is lynch fener and find out?
The problem is if he comes back inno...then what?

Did ehmur have to tell you the truth?

No, PS posted a clarification very early on that the dead could lie to the medium

As kessoh says, the killers would want to hinder the cult as well.

[Galayn Lord]

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 03:05 PM, said:

Or he could very well be telling the truth about being medium, that doesnt stop him from being the recruit. Especially as he himself says he could have been targetted by emurlahn. In a game like this Its not safe to assume that the people with these roles are innocents.

Ofcourse...but then i doubt he would have put his own name in his story.
He could have just said that Ehmur told him they where kiling fener...period.

TBH I dont really care about the kesso side of the response as it doesnt really give us much either way as it is also a good way to make yourelf seem innocent by giving out information that could be incriminating because your so helpful.

[D'riss]

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 02:12 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Jan 22 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

Well

I suppose the only thing we can do is lynch fener and find out?
The problem is if he comes back inno...then what?

Did ehmur have to tell you the truth?

No, PS posted a clarification very early on that the dead could lie to the medium

As kessoh says, the killers would want to hinder the cult as well.

Yeah, I was just answering the question but it obviously took me too long

[Galayn Lord]

Im inclined to agree with Ruse here the only way I can see to prove Kesso wrong one way or another is to get a CF on Fener.
Vote Fener
Now I just hope Kesso isnt a symp

[Ruse]

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 03:14 PM, said:

 Ruse, on Jan 22 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 03:05 PM, said:

Or he could very well be telling the truth about being medium, that doesnt stop him from being the recruit. Especially as he himself says he could have been targetted by emurlahn. In a game like this Its not safe to assume that the people with these roles are innocents.

Ofcourse...but then i doubt he would have put his own name in his story.
He could have just said that Ehmur told him they where kiling fener...period.

TBH I dont really care about the kesso side of the response as it doesnt really give us much either way as it is also a good way to make yourelf seem innocent by giving out information that could be incriminating because your so helpful.

Ofcourse....unlikely...but could be true.

But taking into consideration that fake revealing is rather dangerous, i will stick with believing kessoh untill after i see feners CF result.

[Ruse]

 Galayn Lord, on Jan 22 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

Im inclined to agree with Ruse here the only way I can see to prove Kesso wrong one way or another is to get a CF on Fener.
Vote Fener
Now I just hope Kesso isnt a symp

If he is the symp then we will surely find out soon enough.
He is more than likely going to die soon enough.

And I ask the real Medium to not counter reveal please.

edit- ty[pos

This post has been edited by Ruse: 22 January 2009 - 02:22 PM

[Galayn Lord]

Yeah thats whats making me think that he could actually be the medium as we've only lost one person who wasnt a killer and the medium is still alive because we got a CF. So unless he's fake revealing to try and bring the real medium out. Im inclined to believe he may be the real thing.

[Galayn Lord]

Yeah I agree if there is another medium, they should stay quiet. With this amount of people we can probably afford to lynch off an innocent on bad information but If we lose the medium this game is going to become a lot harder with no CF

[Liosan]

vote fener

I have been trying to work out an angle for this reveal, and it is just too risky for a necromancer when they have all the advantages.