[Morgoth]

and it seems like Baudin is next for the chopping block. Not a good game for the cult this. I should feel sad for them.. but nah

[alt146]

Morgoth, on Jan 25 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

alt146, on Jan 25 2009, 07:44 PM, said:

Hey hey, caught up, was away the whole weekend. Well played to Morgy I guess, but you could have gotten Fener lynched without the reveal. Oh well, it's made the game really interesting, especially since everyone is still looking for necros, and will continue to do so until a whole bunch of 'recruits' die after a lynch. Haha - I think DiBs and Venge could pull off a win, would be awesome to watch if they did.

Also - my router is back, hoorah! Just wish I had a little more time to play. Oh well, guess that's what happens when you sell your soul.

I got alt-guessed by Mentalist again Funny, since he's the only person I can reliably identify. And I think I did my job pretty well, convinced DiBs I was the finder and got NK'd - pretty much the best you can hope for as RI. ALthough I have no idea what my 'slip' was that made him think I was roled.

Hiya Alt. Welcome to spoilerheaven.

I don't think I could've gotten Fener lynched without the reveal. DiBs considered me a likely necro and would've pushed for my lynch (and/or targeted me for a night kill), as would veng with his double vote. When dk said he found the case on me the most compelling, I decided I had to do something substansial to stop a building lynch on my own pretty self, thus the reveal.

I think I did the right thing, but people seem to disagree

I dunno what you did to deserve DiBs vicious attentions, but yeah, you played your role well.

I suppose - I maybe didnt give everything as much attention as I should have, I was a little pissed off when you revealed. Still things look good for the innos, although fingering DiBs as the last killer before you died would have been nice...

[Jump Around]

Morgoth, on Jan 25 2009, 09:02 PM, said:

and it seems like Baudin is next for the chopping block. Not a good game for the cult this. I should feel sad for them.. but nah

Once again we should page GardenGnome. He kept saying that whenever there's a cult they always win, and I don't remember a single cult game here where they did

[Morgoth]

Jump Around, on Jan 25 2009, 09:02 PM, said:

Morgoth, on Jan 25 2009, 09:02 PM, said:

and it seems like Baudin is next for the chopping block. Not a good game for the cult this. I should feel sad for them.. but nah

Once again we should page GardenGnome. He kept saying that whenever there's a cult they always win, and I don't remember a single cult game here where they did

that's because we're smart and limit them

[Morgoth]

and now they're complaining again. How can they blame me for being smarter than them?

It seems I must start modding some none-cf minis.

[Jump Around]

I've been pushing for non-CF games to cure the addiction and hopefully solve the self-voters that want the CF to prove the accusers "stupid".

[Path-Shaper]

Whats worse is I've noticed most of the complaints have becoming from the Finders. I thought Morgy played it perfectly, outside mentioning Liosan.

The Cult has been really disappointing. I think both Fener and Galayn Lord have played it really poorly and dragged Kaschan down with them. But then again Morgy needs some credit for linking Kaschan with them. Galayn Lord I had hoped for better, Baudin's normally good, but he's chosen his kills IMO wrongly and then he jumped to Feners defence much too quickly.


Anyway some messages, from Ment whose sick

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hey guys
I realize this has been a very slow weekend, and I feel ashmed of myself for playing so little, given how I normally play, but i've actually causght a nasty cold (this hasn't happened to me in a while --like a year or so), and it left me ridiculously debilitated to do anything.

i'm gonna try to read up and continue playing but if by any chance i'm close to a modkill (doubt I will be, but still), would you mind sendign me a little prod? i feeel disoriented with times right now.

okay, off to read the monstrous cases people have been making for the last coupla days, then of to bed.
for teh record, I hope we have another witch, but going off WCS, last nigth we got 2 more necros.

so that means if we had 17:3:3 to start with, and presuming Fener wasn't an original Necro

its now 11:2:5

not critical yet, but i'm gonna have to use my power soon...

And here is Shadow, whose fallen into the tough trap of showing off he knows too much from his Finds. I am surprised Dibs isn't eyeing him up for a kill, I am surprised by his lack of search for Finders.

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well, looks like I was a little to "sure" for ano's tastes. Makes sense and I am not going to lie I went a little over the top on my surety in Kaschans guilt to spark just this kind of reaction. It means the Killers are going to want to keep me around at least another night or 2 if I am having a case constantly pushed on me. Of course this could back fire, and people could actually but into teh BS of Anno's case... that would be a shame. But anything can happen. If I am forced to reveal if I do get a train started on me, at least the inno's will know they have been on the right track. Hopefully we can get a GL lynch today. Unfortunately I think the creature might still be out there. It just might be anno....if it is..damn!! so F-ing close day 1. But... then why the GL vote yesterday.... he knows his masters. Maybe some distancing... but with no CF why the need for distancing, unless its for the benifit of the Finder... maybe. If I am forced to use a find on anno for the creature and he comes back inno I am gonna be pissed. wasting 2 of my finds by acting so guilty. Anno... before you start making cases based on changing behaviors after the loss of a CF, ask yourself who else might be sure. Who else might have tried to lay low in the begining and then act like they have more info. thats your finder. I guess I could have been more subtle, but I wanted to try this strategy. Killers are less likely to kill if I am under fire... lets hope I can manage to wriggle off the hook come lynch times

Ok, off to defend against an Anno "case"

And Mockra on rethinking his Modkill

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that last message seems really funny now
I went back to look at post counts and i'm still # 3, lol

even though i've averaged like a post aday this entire weekend

oh, and how many PMs are you gonna get guessing me as executioner now that i've decided to not vote till morning, I wonder?

actually, come to think of it, that might make me a likely necro target.
the recruiters will suspect i'm a double voter and will thus want me with them.. lol
I might want to play this a bit further... once I can stop fucking sneezing every damn 30 seconds...

[Yellow]

I do think that having a CF plus finders in a normal game is somewhat over the top. Especially if there's also a guard... this seems to be why mods keep telling people not to reveal - the innos are generally so overpowered that there's nothing to stop them revealing. I mean, the scum are basically fucked once someone does a find or guard on them.

15 players, 2 killers, 1 symp. No CF, plus a finder and a healer, plus a lover pair with no powers. That should do it, no?

[Path-Shaper]

Yellow, on Jan 26 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

I do think that having a CF plus finders in a normal game is somewhat over the top. Especially if there's also a guard... this seems to be why mods keep telling people not to reveal - the innos are generally so overpowered that there's nothing to stop them revealing. I mean, the scum are basically fucked once someone does a find or guard on them.

15 players, 2 killers, 1 symp. No CF, plus a finder and a healer, plus a lover pair with no powers. That should do it, no?

Yeah sounds reasonable, wanna run it after this one Yellow as a "Mini"? Good time for people to learn... lose the Finder early though and there'd be trouble, its hard to beat the Killers with no Finder or Guard or CF.

What was the role distribution in that paired game that was run? I'm pretty sure there was no CF in that.

[Path-Shaper]

dktorode is feeling lost:

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This whole no CF thing has really gotten to me.
I feel as if all is lost at the moment. With a cult and killers us inno's are really going to be hard pressed finding all the scum with no information to link players together. All we have now is to "hope" that someone is guilty and that we can then find connections from there which could all be a waste of time since your "hopes" could be wrong to begin with leading you to even more incorrect conclusions.

bah...and its monday...i hate mondays

Things are actually quite bright for the innos at the moment, but of course they don't know that

[Path-Shaper]

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anomandaris

if the creature is recruited, does he retain his killing ability? cause that would suck

Errr what... you been drinking again?

How does the Creature get recruited, he's already in the Cult to start with.

hey they can recruit themselves!!! i knew i had reason for asking, cheeky bastard

Sure but if he's in the Cult and can kill, then he gets recruited by joining the Cult... don't you think nothing will happen...

i think he should have a pickaxe in the face followed by a long prolonged disection in which i sell his organs to various members of the black market for a nice dollar and finance a few days in the sun, all this skulking is wrecking my tan

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anomandaris

if the creature is recruited, does he retain his killing ability? cause that would suck

Errr what... you been drinking again?

How does the Creature get recruited, he's already in the Cult to start with.

just checking and yes quite heavily. whst your point?

Ohh just making sure...

kill ano tonight.

dont sduppose you want ot confirm or deny the rumour of a witch bp last night?

and some good analysis of the executioners:

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so our executioners by deduction that is possibly flawed.

meanas or korlat (only one of them can be as they are the only two players on all three trains)

kaschan rashan ano and omtose where also on the day 1 lynch. so out of them i think rashan is the second double voter.

so meanas/ korlat

and rashan

[Morgoth]

DiBs is a scary man

[Morgoth]

why hasn't m45 posted yet? I would've liked to hear his opinion of the game too.

[Jump Around]

His last-minute-cover-his-own-ass night action change did not keep him alive much longer, plus it caused the whole team to collapse with him

[Path-Shaper]

Yeah, was a really dumb idea to reveal the code, I don't get why they did it. Yellow should have known better after last time...

From Tapper about te quiet game.. well its just after the weekend I don't expect it to pick up till tomorrow with less time, or until Galayn Lord Posts.

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Slow game is even slower. Extended weekend? People with hangovers? Sigh...
Oh well, course of the day seems easy. Wait for GL's defense, tear it apart and expose it as bullshit, lynch him, go to night, sit night out.

I think after that, it's about time that I will get lynched myself... I don't think people will want me around for much longer. Scum will of course not make a move towards me, as I'm saying of myself that I am a dead man walking... which will mean that the longer I live, the more suspicious people will be of me, because I am expecting to die that much.

If Anomandaris is judged to be scummy, he's probably going to get lynched first, but at some point someone will say: 'how come Omtose is still alive?' and everyone will fall in, and that will be that.

Must say I look forward to SH.

Ok now onto something a little more serious, Liosan about his unknown and powerful Symp Tennes.

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he hasnt posted since friday morning, can we keep him in though i need a convenient lynch ina few days

Its been ages, although he did get the night action in. I'll give him another 24 hours or so to post before we give him the modkill but Tennes has been utterly useless in all honesty.

[Morgoth]

t can be quite terrifying playing mafia for the first time. Some contribution would still have been welcome. I am sure he's had thoughts about the game too.. Hopefully he'll want to try again and perhaps then brave the reactions and contribute more

[Jump Around]

I was thinking that once the CF shows you that Fener was m45, all you had to do was alt-guess Yellow and "make a case" against him.

I mean, he was obviously partnered to Fener, who else would find the unbreakable URSE code?

[Jump Around]

Morgoth, on Jan 26 2009, 02:06 PM, said:

t can be quite terrifying playing mafia for the first time. Some contribution would still have been welcome. I am sure he's had thoughts about the game too.. Hopefully he'll want to try again and perhaps then brave the reactions and contribute more

I agree that symp is a nasty role to play for a first time (assuming he didn't play before somewhere else). A game as simple RI would give him better chances to melt in.

[Morgoth]

Jump Around, on Jan 26 2009, 01:06 PM, said:

I was thinking that once the CF shows you that Fener was m45, all you had to do was alt-guess Yellow and "make a case" against him.

I mean, he was obviously partnered to Fener, who else would find the unbreakable URSE code?

Haha, had I alt guessed Yellow at the time I might just have done that

still, URSE? It must be the least likely code I've seen here, defeating even the GARD

[Path-Shaper]

Well he was the Modcraft fellow who came by looking for players in the Modcraft game a few weeks ago. I presume since he's run a game he must have played in a few. I just get the feeling he hasn't really tried. Or Malazan Mafia is the elite Mafia compared to those in the lesser Sub Mafia games like Modcrafts