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#21 User is offline   Benji 

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 01:18 PM

King of Night or Lord of Night...

I would have thought they were just titles. Like High Fist or Emperor.

And I was working off of what was listed in RotCG. If I added some more, then I would have put L'oric as Priest of Light, swapped Baudin and Seguleh 2nd and put in all the previouslys (I.e. Poliel as Queen of HHC etc).

Not to mention adding in Lifeslayer and Deathslayer as Icarium and The CG respectively.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 02:07 PM

Sorry lads, but until they are actually added into the Appendices, I don't consider any changes valid.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 04:36 PM

The list I posted earlier was in the appendix, that's why I posted it. I could probably guess at the others for days but I just wanted to get the official bits down.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 04:45 PM

I reckon Draconus could become king of dark, or perhaps take up rakes position, though I can see that being nimander...

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 04:47 PM

View PostBenji, on Jan 16 2009, 04:36 PM, said:

The list I posted earlier was in the appendix, that's why I posted it. I could probably guess at the others for days but I just wanted to get the official bits down.


I agrre on those but I don't agree on such things like Hurl as Builder of HH Light and Whiskyjack as Mason of Death.
And as for Trull being Knight of Shadow and Draconus being King of Night, those positions are not even in the appendices, never mind not being filled yet.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 05:25 PM

Well some of those positions were far too brief to warrant notice. Whiskeyjack as Mason of HHD was never certain anyway, people just said it because he used to be a mason. Trull WAS actually Knight of Shadow, character in the book commented on it quite frequently, but the same book he gained that position was also the same book that he died in...

As for Draconus... I would guess that he was imprisoned in Dragnipur before the Deck of Dragons was even created so he wouldn't have had a chance to become King of Dark. King of Night is, like I said before, just a title, not a position in the Deck.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 05:53 PM

I aggree.

Whiskeyjack is the Mason (he's with the Herald and the Knight among others at TTH
Trull is confirmed to be the Knight of shadows in Reapers Gale

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 06:44 PM

Well, seeing as how King of Night was drawn FROM A DECK, by a true talent, and Ereko thought: "That's impossible. That card has been inactive for thousands of years." And, of course it is the most dreaded card in the Deck because Draconus is in freaking Dragnipur. Doesn't exactly bode well for the person it was drawn for. It is an actual card.

I don't have my book on me, but I don't remember High House War in the RotCG Appendix. Is that not a viable house within the deck either? Further, Toll the Hounds has NO APPENDIX, so did the deck just up and disappear? No. Those cards belong.

As for the other, momentary fulfillment of Card positions, of course those don't belong. But actual cards do.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 06:38 AM

Do these not-yet-appendiced positions need to be sanctified by the MotD?

From my copy in RotCG, it isn't listed...I wish they'd get on with it!
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 06:40 AM

Erikson hasn't had an appendix since Bonehunters. I'll put my word out there and say I'll eat crow if King of Night isn't an actual card, at least in ICE's universe. I think SE might just be done with them seeing as how they don't really serve a purpose in his series anymore... we know the major players and their roles.
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 01:54 PM

I think the card that was drawn wasn't actually King of Night. I think it was King of Dark instead. A mild difference, but an important one in this context.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 04:16 AM

Queen of HH shadow- alaspar ( events in BH as Sorce of opinion



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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:44 PM

I would have thought Apsalar would be Virgin of HHS more than anything else. Personally, I'm hoping that Laseen becomes Queen, but I doubt that will happen. Vorcan seems quite likely for the spot though. At least temporarily, like when she was killing off the Torrud Cabal
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 03:31 AM

I can't see Apsalar as Queen...she's not terribly affiliated with Shadow...
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 03:54 AM

View PostAin't_It_Just_, on Jan 19 2009, 10:31 PM, said:

I can't see Apsalar as Queen...she's not terribly affiliated with Shadow...


Are you serious? I agree with the notion that she won't be queen. But... not affiliated?

And, no it was King of Night, not darkness.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:22 AM

I think she has kinda gone off and started doing her own thing...
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:28 AM

How has she cut of connections? She remains an assassin with supreme skills in the art of shadow dancing, with the memories and some of the same skills of the patron of assassins in High House Shadow...
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:30 AM

Ok ok, I just can't see her entering Shadow Keep, ready to strike some sort of deal with ST in exchange for some time off or somesuch.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 12:59 PM

Remember, affiliation doesn't really make much difference. Skinner had no affiliation with The Crippled God and look where he is now.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 10:33 AM

Do you think the rest of the Avowed knew about his bargain with the CG? I doubt they'll be too bloody happy.
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