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Itkovian and an Alien God

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 05:55 PM

When Itkovian heads to the Thrall and invokes the Reve upon Rath'Fener he takes the man's soul and takes all of his grief. When he does this, he says that you can't help what else comes through.

The first to come through was the pain of Capustan and the grief of the seige which Itkovian accepted to embrace, an embrace that almost killed him. While he was still "open" he felt an alien presense, not malign just different. He tried to take on the pain of the alien god but it almost killed him. "Too vast" was the description. I'll include the following description. Is this a god from Lether? or is it something else?

From MoI page 536 paperback US.

Then the sensation was gone, fleeing him as the alien god succeeded in extracting itself, leaving Itkovian with but fading echoes of a distant world's grief - a world with it's own atrocities, layer upon layer through a long tortured history. Fading...then gone.

Leaving him with heart rending knowledge.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 07:03 PM

It was a "random" alien god. Existing in another place a part from Wu.

It looks as though it has taken residence in the now vacant realm of Fener.

We haven't heard anything about it since.
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Posted 09 January 2009 - 03:50 PM

View PostAptorian, on Jan 6 2009, 02:03 PM, said:

It was a "random" alien god. Existing in another place a part from Wu.

It looks as though it has taken residence in the now vacant realm of Fener.

We haven't heard anything about it since.


Could it be something connected to the Jade statues and Heboric?
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Posted 09 January 2009 - 03:56 PM

People were quick to jump to the conclusion that it was the CG or someone like him.

Problem is there is no such evidence.

It is as far as we know an anonymous, one time encounter.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 11:37 AM

There may not be much evidence, but there is more evidence that it was the CG than anything else.

"distant world's grief - a world with it's own atrocities, layer upon layer through a long tortured history"

Is not the CG from a distant world? Is he not suffering?

It makes no sense that it's a reference to something totally separate from the story and then never mention it again.

It makes a point of mentioning it and even though i've only just read MOI i've noticed that SE never makes comments that dont mean anything on this level there is always hidden meaning.

This may all be wrong but it is how i see it.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 12:22 PM

Nothing connects this god with the CG. The CG does not have a monopoly on suffering.

You'll discover as you read further that there a many other worlds with their own wars and internal struggles.

The reactions of the alien god doesn't fit with the CG at all. Trying to mold something beautifull out of the hands of rathfener and failing. The fact that it receeded from Itkovian when he tried to take its pain.

It's not the CG. Anyway it hasn't popped up since, so I guess it's a moot topic.
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:52 PM

i thought more that it was the CG because it pulled away. Like The first child of the dead seed Anaster it needs its suffering.

The House of chains is only filled with people with a major flaw he couldn't be it's leader if the shield anvil took his pain, But then again i remember someone saying the CG wasn't a part of the house of chains just that he created it then set it free to create more trouble for the rest of the deck and Kallor is its king.

As i say though i have only just finished MOI so my information is not as deep as yours so i will bow to your more informed view.
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