[Emurlahn]

I have a theory that Rashan was involved in JFK's assassination

[Thyrllan]

Remove Vote

Vote Rashan

I think Rashan is the Republican recruiter. This could explain the sudden, not very well explained switch to Kesso at the start of today, as he seemed convinced that Kesso was a leader. I'd suggest that Rashan tried to recruit Kesso and couldn't. Also, I find his style of play extremely irritating, and feel that it will be almost impossible to have anything approaching a civilised argument with him around.

Also, I've never seen someone so defensive and deflective whenever people ask anything from him. He clearly has an agenda, and I think that Brutii and Julii should combine to take put him down.

[D'riss]

Lol, he's voting for you, Thyr. Of course you're going to say that.

[Thyrllan]

D'riss: Do you bother reading the thread? I suggest you actually go back and have a reread and come back when you actually have something worthwhile to contribute rather than stupid one line posts which add absolutely nothing of value?

[Silanah]

Rashan, on Jan 7 2009, 06:34 AM, said:

Silanah, on Jan 7 2009, 10:29 AM, said:

Rashan, you make too much noise and lots of jokes for no reason
You avoid all talk about you and go straight for people's throats
The game would be better off without you
All you do is pull random crap out of your ass then make a fuss about nothing
I still have my theories about you...

another person with theories, pray tell why dont you discuss your theories instead of justs aying you have them. I respond to whats said, if you have a valid argument beyond my style of play i will address it, until you actually post your theories i am discounting you as a julii and putting you on the list of things to cross off.

@thyrllan - you are another player with theory about me, so spout it out, i want to actually read a case about me if you have one.

Ive already explained my theories O.o
Why are you suddenly discounting me as Julii all of a sudden? Did you really ever believe that I was Julii for voting for someone else or are you just making noise for no reason to take attention off yourself.
You act such a hypocrite for voting for Kess today when you said different yesterday.
Your obnoxious attitude leads me to believe that even if someone tried to kill you, you would have a bodyguard to guard you.
I believe you to be either a leader or a role similar to guarding.

[D'riss]

You mean like my reasons for voting for you? Did we not like them, Thyrllan?

[Rashan]

thought some discussion on my speed lynch might be in order

Korlat, on Jan 6 2009, 10:58 AM, said:

OK, the extremity of Rashan's reaction here seems uncalled for. I don't follow his logic too well - he lambasts others for coming to conclusions about the nature of the mechanics in play, when his own way of looking at things is just as shrouded in uncertainty. Yet he entertains no doubts whatsoever. He bases his assertions on the fact that Octavian is informed of exactly who is on his side at the beginning of every day, but I see nothing in that that gives any credence to the ability of MA to recruit. It is very useful for him to know when players have deserted his cause, because if he becomes the recruiter then he will know exactly who he has yet to turn to his side. That power makes equally as much sense if MA can't recruit as if he can.

Thyrllan's power is a purely defensive one at the current time, and we will know the moment he gains the power to recruit. Certainly, we could remove him now, but his bodyguard power allows us to gain more information about the Julii faction, so I choose to see the benefits of keeping him at the current time. I am not averse to his removal should there not be a better case. But the rabid way that Rashan is chasing after this gives me something else - being so vehement is not going to convince anyone when you have nothing to back yourself up with, so I am inclined to view it as a smoke screen. Plus, play like that really ticks me off. So,

Vote Rashan

EDIT: Crosspost with Rashan.

nothing wrong with that - you will notice that large section in the middle, called a case.

Shadow, on Jan 6 2009, 04:02 PM, said:

okay, caught up, won't be on much, cuz i'll be on trains going to and from home for the next two days do to holiday

While I am NOT julii, I am not gonna vote for Octavius

reason?
I'm FAIRLY certain the team distributions aren't 7:7:6, as some have suggested. I thing that Julii have an almost majority now, and they were handicapped by having 2 competing leaders, and being unable to recruit while both are alive. Ending the Julii power struggle would only help the Julii atm, I agree with that.
The way Rashan has been pushing for the Octavian lynch makes me think HE is MA.
some of you speculate that MA may still be able of recruiting right now. very well then

remove vote

vote Rashan

becasue I believe he's MA, trying to to straighten things out for his team.
needless to say, if we get MA today, Thyr is the one to go tomorrow

believes i am ma, is wrong and after lynch said so. not much wrong there, see those are reasons.

Galayn Lord, on Jan 6 2009, 04:25 PM, said:

Rashan, on Jan 6 2009, 06:20 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Jan 6 2009, 04:17 PM, said:

Hmmm. I agree with Shadows logic, since Rashan does seem to be likely as MA. Tempted to put my vote on him now - I also hope that revealing you know something about numbers doesnt count as a 'reveal' (I'm not sure how strict the mods will be).

there was logic in that post? damn i must of missed it. Put your vote down then and stop himming and hamming, good god, what does it take for people to vote? we have TWO revealed julii and all these people are trying to make up excuses and push attention away to other people. Why not try making a case yourself, your last post you claimed thyrllan was the best lynch, now you claim me. Yet to see a vote though are we.

ok

vote Rashan

called him out, he voted. still he never made a case, just waited until pressured into voting. thyrllan had five with 2 hours remaining. i had 2. possibly protecting thyrllan with some weak distancing.

Kessobahn, on Jan 6 2009, 04:46 PM, said:

Hello im here.

Going to

Remove vote

vote Rashan

I see im being kept stubbornly high on votes for such great reasons like Thyrs, "i'll vote anyone who isnt me".

I think rashan is quite likely MA. Thyrllan is Octavian. It is stupid to lynch ocatavian now, as that likely just gives the Julii recruit powers. The advantage being, if we find MA, we can get rid of the Julii recruiting threat.
Rashan has been pushing a Thyrllan lynch, and seems to be trying to distract attention onto people who may or may not be Julii.

makes a case for me being ma.

Thyrllan, on Jan 6 2009, 04:47 PM, said:

remove vote

vote Rashan

I think he's completely mad. And may not understand what logic means.

Despite plus minus 300 posts arguing against me, I still don't really get his argument, save for the fact that I am a Julii. However that leaves aside a lot of information from that damn Cicero's find that would suggest that I am basically incapable of much. People who I respect more, based on the fact that their posts don't sound like a little boy shouting at the top of his voice, have pointed out that I'm only a threat when Marc Anthony is gone, and hence it would be better to find MA before lynching me, which would, as far as I know, gut the Julii.

I'm a bit worried about the motives of all the non-Julii people who are going along with his logic. Somewhere out there is Marc Anthony.

saving his own ass.

Kaschan, on Jan 6 2009, 04:56 PM, said:

OK, kind of groggy due to the lack of coffee, but ... this sort of makes sense:


Remove Vote

Vote Rashan


I'm really, really hoping he's MA, and not just taking a fall to make us waste a lynch. On the plus side, we've got a lot of candidates for Julii. On the negative side, this will enable Octavian to recruit ... but since there's no way we can let him live tomorrow, it won't do the Julii any good. They pick up a recruit tonight, but that just makes up for losing a member today (I hope); and once Thyrllan's gone the Julii are hosed. Win-win ... as long as Rashan turns out Julii. If not, well ...

another short ma case, though he doesnt seem convinced, and doesnt think so this morning.

Fener, on Jan 6 2009, 05:16 PM, said:

Ok I am back and damn if my trap failed. Let me explain. Based purely on Meta, I thought that Ampelas was a leader. You see during the time that Thyr got pointed out, Amp had a small amount of heat on him, but was slowly starting to shift that pressure to Kess. Then Bam! Thyr gets called out, and that totally removed all votes from Amp and then immediately the votes went either to Thyr or to Kess. I was hoping someone would have symped Amp and that would have given me a clue as to whether or not he was in fact a leader. That didn't happen. But I still am going to keep a\n eye on Amp, because since the Thyr reveal Amp became alot more bold, for lack of a better term. Anyway, we need a lynch, I can see the reasoning behind letting thyr live so I will go along with the train on this one.

Remove Vote Vote Rashan

Because you might be on my team, and you might be a leader, I lean more towards the latter.

wants thyr to live, talks again about some meta reasoning trap?? not sure what that means.

Ampelas, on Jan 6 2009, 06:07 PM, said:

Fener, on Jan 6 2009, 07:16 PM, said:

Ok I am back and damn if my trap failed. Let me explain. Based purely on Meta, I thought that Ampelas was a leader. You see during the time that Thyr got pointed out, Amp had a small amount of heat on him, but was slowly starting to shift that pressure to Kess. Then Bam! Thyr gets called out, and that totally removed all votes from Amp and then immediately the votes went either to Thyr or to Kess. I was hoping someone would have symped Amp and that would have given me a clue as to whether or not he was in fact a leader. That didn't happen. But I still am going to keep a\n eye on Amp, because since the Thyr reveal Amp became alot more bold, for lack of a better term. Anyway, we need a lynch, I can see the reasoning behind letting thyr live so I will go along with the train on this one.

Remove Vote Vote Rashan

Because you might be on my team, and you might be a leader, I lean more towards the latter.

So I went from noisy to bold?

Rashan, on Jan 6 2009, 08:02 PM, said:

fact is thyrllan can come on in the morning and go - xxxxx and xxxx are no longer in my faction. thats too big a risk to leave about. if you guys want to waste a lynch on me, fine, go ahead, but your reasoning for leaving octavian around is piss weak, he has to die sometime, leaving a known enemy around does nothing for any faction other than the julii.

And this is what bugs me Rashan, you make us sound like morons and sheep, you try to make us seem like children and that you have all the answers. Do you honestly believe that we anyone besides a Julii member is going to believe whatever the hell he spouts, really wtf???

Vote: Rashan

Because atm we have 2 possible lynches on the cards and I believe that Rashan's lynch will be more informative than Thyr's.

told you it wouldnt. just wants a lynch.

Emurlahn, on Jan 6 2009, 06:15 PM, said:

remove vote
vote Rashan

I still have some posts to catch up with, so I don't even know if it's needed. I'm just not sure on the time

not even bothering with a reason.

Hood's Path, on Jan 6 2009, 06:52 PM, said:

I just got called in to a meeting in 10 minutes. Hope to be back by deadline, but it doesn't look good.

vote Rashan

I hope i'm wrong about you not being MA/Julii

had explained all this before, hammer vote incidentally on ten. Interestign to see if the lynch goes to 10 today or stops early.


Nto much there, seems the major argument for my doom was that i am ma, which given the end scene i clearly am not.

[Emurlahn]

Now now, let's not lose our cool.

We are senators, after all, those are always calm, no?

[Thyrllan]

D'riss: To be honest, I don't really care about people's reasons for voting me, I'm a dead man walking. But your general play, and Rashan's have been irritating me.

[Emurlahn]

Rashan, on Jan 7 2009, 12:47 PM, said:

Nto much there, seems the major argument for my doom was that i am ma, which given the end scene i clearly am not.

That's why I voted you yesterday, I didn't bother to repeat it in my vote post, but I had already mentioned a few times why you fit the bill.

And for the second part of the sentence, I kinda agree, if you saved yourself I don't think you're MA. If the Julii have two recruiters, one with a bodyguard and the other lynch-proof, then we can stop playing.

[Rashan]

Thyrllan, on Jan 7 2009, 10:37 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Rashan

I think Rashan is the Republican recruiter. This could explain the sudden, not very well explained switch to Kesso at the start of today, as he seemed convinced that Kesso was a leader. I'd suggest that Rashan tried to recruit Kesso and couldn't. Also, I find his style of play extremely irritating, and feel that it will be almost impossible to have anything approaching a civilised argument with him around.

Also, I've never seen someone so defensive and deflective whenever people ask anything from him. He clearly has an agenda, and I think that Brutii and Julii should combine to take put him down.

i would be a pretty powerful recruiter to survive a lynch.

[Rashan]

Silanah, on Jan 7 2009, 10:43 AM, said:

Rashan, on Jan 7 2009, 06:34 AM, said:

Silanah, on Jan 7 2009, 10:29 AM, said:

Rashan, you make too much noise and lots of jokes for no reason
You avoid all talk about you and go straight for people's throats
The game would be better off without you
All you do is pull random crap out of your ass then make a fuss about nothing
I still have my theories about you...

another person with theories, pray tell why dont you discuss your theories instead of justs aying you have them. I respond to whats said, if you have a valid argument beyond my style of play i will address it, until you actually post your theories i am discounting you as a julii and putting you on the list of things to cross off.

@thyrllan - you are another player with theory about me, so spout it out, i want to actually read a case about me if you have one.

Ive already explained my theories O.o
Why are you suddenly discounting me as Julii all of a sudden? Did you really ever believe that I was Julii for voting for someone else or are you just making noise for no reason to take attention off yourself.
You act such a hypocrite for voting for Kess today when you said different yesterday.
Your obnoxious attitude leads me to believe that even if someone tried to kill you, you would have a bodyguard to guard you.
I believe you to be either a leader or a role similar to guarding.

actually the julii thing is being bandied around by a few players. Read duringt he night, i said i was going to vote kessobahn then, i willf ind a quote for you if you missed it

[Korlat]

Here's a different take on what happened at the end of Day 1 - someone's vote counts for double. That would make HP's vote the hammer, and then Rash's lynch BP kicked in.

If something similar happens this evening, it'll be a good indication that I'm right.

As far as the rest of events, I'm really not quite sure how to procede today...I voted for Rashan principally because he was annoying me yesterday...not the strongest of motives. On the other hand, his overbearing nature and lack of logic makes it hard for me to think, so it might be worth getting rid of him to clear the air. I feel like I'm still a bit in the dark - was hoping there'd be a CF or two to mull over after the night and provide some more info. So for now I think I'll withhold my vote and see what comes to light today.

Any chance someone could summarize why Silanah is so high on people's MA lists?

[Emurlahn]

Korlat, on Jan 7 2009, 12:56 PM, said:

Any chance someone could summarize why Silanah is so high on people's MA lists?

For me, not MA, just Julii.

[Silanah]

Remove Vote
Dont really think you are MA based on a few things that have recently happened, starting to think you might be of my faction
Vote Thyrllan
He knows he is a dead man walking its inevitable
Would like to get this day over faster than the last one
Im beginning to wonder what role the modkilled player was..
For all we know, he could have been MA and Thyrllan has recruitment powers

[Korlat]

Emurlahn, on Jan 7 2009, 05:57 PM, said:

Korlat, on Jan 7 2009, 12:56 PM, said:

Any chance someone could summarize why Silanah is so high on people's MA lists?

For me, not MA, just Julii.

Yeah...but why?

[Silanah]

Korlat, on Jan 7 2009, 07:01 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Jan 7 2009, 05:57 PM, said:

Korlat, on Jan 7 2009, 12:56 PM, said:

Any chance someone could summarize why Silanah is so high on people's MA lists?

For me, not MA, just Julii.

Yeah...but why?

They think I am Julii for not voting for Thyrllan
Not really a good case but whatever

[Rashan]

Rashan, on Jan 6 2009, 08:59 PM, said:

you should be very careful about what you discuss kessobahn, you missed something vital in what people said after my lynch, and now they know something vital about you.

Rashan, on Jan 6 2009, 09:05 PM, said:

thats true, i think you are a leader because of how you reacted, everyone knows i cant discuss how i survived, but certain people jumped to a conclusion obviously based on their own role pm and recognised something. you reacted different and fell into a category we can recognise from thyrllans role pm.

heres during the night were i state quite clearly my belief that kessobahn is a leader. Hence my vote for him this morning.

[Emurlahn]

Silanah, on Jan 7 2009, 01:01 PM, said:

Im beginning to wonder what role the modkilled player was..
For all we know, he could have been MA and Thyrllan has recruitment powers

Well, he was Republican, so he can't have been MA.

Which reminds me, nothing in this CF (the only one of the game so far) guarantees that we'll be told when the person who is MA will die, so the plan to keep Thyrllan alive until 5 seconds after MA's death might not be valid.

[Rashan]

Silanah, on Jan 7 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

Remove Vote
Dont really think you are MA based on a few things that have recently happened, starting to think you might be of my faction
Vote Thyrllan
He knows he is a dead man walking its inevitable
Would like to get this day over faster than the last one
Im beginning to wonder what role the modkilled player was..
For all we know, he could have been MA and Thyrllan has recruitment powers

interesting, the final line though, lisheo was republican and so i doubt he could be marc anthony. It would be kind of ironic if he had been the day finder though and that one post and pm he may have sent starting all this