[Emurlahn]

I'm around, just not sure what to add.

We need a lynch, if there's minimal NK happening we can't wait and rely on modkills to bring the game forward.

I would switch to Silanah, if there's enough players willing to do so. End of day will happen in the busiest time for the thread normally, and I'll be around for sure.

edit: and I'm no longer expecting a Cicero bombshell. It was either Omtose, or a one-time thing.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 08 January 2009 - 12:44 PM

[Korlat]

 Rashan, on Jan 8 2009, 07:15 PM, said:

seems the silanah train is picking up steam, i will keep my vote where it is, but change it if thyrllan is no longer viable. Is it just me or is the thread really quiet?

korlat - any thoughts on serc or galayn as possible julii?

Galayn was the other name that Silanah randomly threw out in his attempts to turn suspicion away from him...he didn't give any reasons, and I can't really think of any off the top of my head.


Serc, I'm not so sure about. I'll do a read through and have a look.

[Korlat]

I didn't realise there were so few Serc posts to look over. He seems to have been away an awful lot. I am pretty forgiving of grammatical errors like the one he made, for the most part - I mean, why would anyone reveal Julii in the current climate? What I did notice, however, is that he cites believing that MA can't recruit as long as Octavian is around as fact, which seems a bit strong. Certainly, say you think it is more likely, but 'fact'? It seems possible that he's trying to make it seem more likely that MA can't recruit without Octavian gone so that Thyrllan doesn't get lynched. However, it's not particularly strong evidence, I think I'd need a little more in order to be convinced to vote for him.

[Mockra]

I'm around a little as well for a couple of hours. I think we're all sort of in the same boat. Thyrllan is the safe bet, while we can have a bit of a guess at another Julii like Silanah. I also favoured Fener for a while. When the train on Thyrllan was growing, he seemed to ignore it, but a reading back before has made me unconvinced.


I'm going to stick with Thyrllan for now, but about to do a reread of the time when he was revealed and I'll see if anything turns up.

This post has been edited by Mockra: 08 January 2009 - 01:04 PM

[Korlat]

I notice it has been almost 35 hours since Gamelon last posted...hope we don't have to have another modkill.

[Rashan]

 Emurlahn, on Jan 8 2009, 12:43 PM, said:

edit: and I'm no longer expecting a Cicero bombshell. It was either Omtose, or a one-time thing.

thinking about it, it could have been a forced action, use today or lose it. or the rational migh have been that if it only reveals initial role pm the player would have possibly been recruited a number of times and the day find would lose its potency. i still cant see why thyrllan though, perhaps day 4 we will learn of the identity of that player.

[Path-Shaper]

Gamelon was badly hurt by the combination of board going down, and an active social life.
Because he notified us, we've given him an extention.

[Rashan]

good, i think 2 is enough modkills. tell him to stop being so outgoing and get back in front of a pc like the rest of us poor bastards

[Ampelas]

 Path-Shaper, on Jan 8 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

Gamelon was badly hurt by the combination of board going down, and an active social life.
Because he notified us, we've given him an extention.

Social life? what is this thing that you speak of? It sounds like a disease that should be cut out of him.....


OK so whats with the Silanah train, 4 or 5 people are now certain Silanah is Julii?
hmmm... interesting, going to reread that bit quick

[Korlat]

 Ampelas, on Jan 8 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

 Path-Shaper, on Jan 8 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

Gamelon was badly hurt by the combination of board going down, and an active social life.
Because he notified us, we've given him an extention.

Social life? what is this thing that you speak of? It sounds like a disease that should be cut out of him.....


OK so whats with the Silanah train, 4 or 5 people are now certain Silanah is Julii?
hmmm... interesting, going to reread that bit quick

Certain is not quite the word I'd use, but sure enough that I think it's worth pursuing over Thyrllan, who can wait until tomorrow.

[Thyrllan]

I'm not sure if it is worth adding my 2 cents to this situation, because, similarly to earlier, if I say Silanah is Julii, it looks like I'm just trying to save my own skin. If I say Silanah isn't and people believe me, it takes away the only remotely possible alternate lynch to me.

[Mockra]

I have done my reread of the time around Thyrllan and after his reveal. I can see why Serc and Silanah both get lumped as Julii.
Note Thyrllan was voting Kesso at the time, so we can assume Kesso is not a member of Julii at the time.

This is Serc.

Serc said:

Before I go to bed:

I would lynch Thyrllan. I would dearly love to lynch him, because of his role as an opposition leader of my faction. But I won't since there is the fact that Julii then gets to recruitand that would be bad in the power struggle... So,

Vote Kessobahn
We should push for a lynch, and he is, for some reason, under the radar since Thyrllan was revealed as a faction leader.

Right, night all.

And a few minutes later.

Silanah said:

Vote: Kessobahn

I think its best we push for a lynch on him as hes the only lead that alot of us agree on.
I dont believe that MA has recruitment powers so with that logic, we should not Lynch Thyrllan until MA is dead.
Then we can lynch him, eliminating both leaders hopefully.

To be fair to Silanah he does explain his position quite well.

I'm not sure if i'm seeing Julii at every turn, but this was Korlat after Rashan went for Thyr. Maybe a candidate as well.

Korlat said:

OK, the extremity of Rashan's reaction here seems uncalled for. I don't follow his logic too well - he lambasts others for coming to conclusions about the nature of the mechanics in play, when his own way of looking at things is just as shrouded in uncertainty. Yet he entertains no doubts whatsoever. He bases his assertions on the fact that Octavian is informed of exactly who is on his side at the beginning of every day, but I see nothing in that that gives any credence to the ability of MA to recruit. It is very useful for him to know when players have deserted his cause, because if he becomes the recruiter then he will know exactly who he has yet to turn to his side. That power makes equally as much sense if MA can't recruit as if he can.

Thyrllan's power is a purely defensive one at the current time, and we will know the moment he gains the power to recruit. Certainly, we could remove him now, but his bodyguard power allows us to gain more information about the Julii faction, so I choose to see the benefits of keeping him at the current time. I am not averse to his removal should there not be a better case. But the rabid way that Rashan is chasing after this gives me something else - being so vehement is not going to convince anyone when you have nothing to back yourself up with, so I am inclined to view it as a smoke screen. Plus, play like that really ticks me off. So,

Vote Rashan

Make of that what you will, I would probably switch to Serc or Silanah if we can get the numbers. Just on those I'd prefer Serc over Silanah, but his name hasn't been around as much. Serc just follows along, somehow knowing Kesso isn't in his faction. Since we have no idea what faction Kesso is in even now I think thats quite a call.

Korlat I'd need to do more of a reread on before I'd think about voting him. His name hasn't come up as much for a Julii person.

[Rashan]

serc is a low poster though, so its hard to get an accurate read, also he has stated he wont be around again until tomorrow. Not sure about korlat.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 2.
18 players are alive.

With 1 hour compensation for the forum being down, the day lasts for 5 hours and 30 minutes, please think of your provisionals.

10 votes needed to lynch, 9 votes needed for night.

7 players have voted for Thyrllan (D'riss, Rashan, Emurlahn, Mockra, Fener, Kaschan, Serc)
1 player has voted for Rashan (Thyrllan)
1 player has voted for Liosan (Ampelas)
1 player has voted for Kessobahn (Silanah)
4 players have voted for Silanah (HP, Shadow, Kessobahn, Korlat)
4 players have not voted: Gamelon, Ruse, Liosan, Galayn Lord

[Fener]

Thank God, I left work yesterday and the forum was down, I tried to get on at home and I couldn't connect to the net. Fucking ISP! Anyway, I managed to catch up on the last couple of pages, and I do see merit to the Sil lynch. But it is risky, I would hate to be down 2 to 1 to 0. I just don't know. I think I'll leave my vote on Thyr, its safe and evens the odds. if the train swings to Sil and thats the only lynch possible, I'll switch then, but I don't think we'll get anyone else today. And to be honest, I probably wouldn't switch to anyone besides Sil at the moment anyway. I'll be on the rest of the day, as long as the fucking forum doesn't collapse again. If anyone is around to discuss.

[Gamelon]

Okay, I'm performing in my school play this weekend, and won't be able to be a post whore until Sunday. I'll be on in the morning tomorrow and Saturday. However, because I have no access to this forum at school, I will be unable to follow a 10 page per day thread. Therefore, I'll decline to vote unless I see I'm the last needed for a majority. Sorry if I'm inconveniencing anybody, but I'll reform my evil ways after Sunday and start focusing on the game.

[Mockra]

 Rashan, on Jan 8 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

serc is a low poster though, so its hard to get an accurate read, also he has stated he wont be around again until tomorrow. Not sure about korlat.

Yeah its also down to 4 or 5 hours left as well. I'm off soon so going to leave it on Thyrllan, might struggle to get a lynch on anyone else at this point anyway unless there's a whole bunch of people who all decide to move to someone else.

[Rashan]

just looking at the two trains

needed 11
10 players have voted for Rashan (Kaschan, Korlat, Shadow, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Thyrllan, Fener, Ampelas, Emurlahn, hp)

need 10

7 players have voted for Thyrllan (D'riss, Rashan, Emurlahn, Mockra, Fener, Kaschan, Serc)

those three players are on both, i wonder if we hit 9 and thyrllan gets lynched?? does anyone else think that i was lynched and therefore someone can vote twice, or perhaps one player can vote off thread? Is there any player who is yet to vote on thread?

This post has been edited by Rashan: 08 January 2009 - 02:54 PM

[Rashan]

 Gamelon, on Jan 8 2009, 02:47 PM, said:

Okay, I'm performing in my school play this weekend, and won't be able to be a post whore until Sunday. I'll be on in the morning tomorrow and Saturday. However, because I have no access to this forum at school, I will be unable to follow a 10 page per day thread. Therefore, I'll decline to vote unless I see I'm the last needed for a majority. Sorry if I'm inconveniencing anybody, but I'll reform my evil ways after Sunday and start focusing on the game.

Sunday??? its only thursday!!! what you doing in a play?

[Ampelas]

 Thyrllan, on Jan 8 2009, 04:22 PM, said:

I'm not sure if it is worth adding my 2 cents to this situation, because, similarly to earlier, if I say Silanah is Julii, it looks like I'm just trying to save my own skin. If I say Silanah isn't and people believe me, it takes away the only remotely possible alternate lynch to me.

Err.... didn't you tell us earlier that Serc and/or Silanah were not Julii?
nvm

Now that I have indulged the boy.

Fuck it, but I am torn, I have looked back and I can see how Silanah is possibly a Julii, but its only a possibilty.

On the other hand we have a known Julii, that is pretty damn impotent atm.
So while lynching him squares the teams off in terms of losses, I can not shake the feeling that it then grants the Julii recruiting ability. (Yes Rash I know you don't think that but I do )

And those who have been waiting anxiously for Cicero to open his mouth again, WTF???
Do you honestly believe that that kind of power is something that can used day after day after day? I think it was probably a once off and whoever it was that used it may have had a time limit or panicked (Thinks in Kesso's direction).

So as it stands:

Remove Vote

Now I am going to be around, so I want to see if anything else of interest happens