[Vicodin&FantasyBooks]

ABout the scale of his actions In GoTM Kruppe or someone around him says that "Power draws power." so in a way he is trying to keep himself out of the God's sight by limiting his power to his daily needs.

Power lust is the same feeling that you've 'never made it' or can never 'make it' in a way. After every challenge you feel tired but not sattisfied. In his wisdom Kruppe has understood this and adjusted his criteria for 'making it' for a smaller scale of things. And that is the only way to lead a happy fullfilled life because in the end there is no objective criteria for 'making it' besides your own.

Did Adjunct Lorn feel fulfilled before she died because she had risen to the second most powerful position in the Empire? No because all her life she was driven by the need for revenge and yet ninety percent of the time she surpressed it behind the cold emotionless image of what an adjunct must be.

So that kind of explains Kruppe's lifestyle and his phylosophy.

This post has been edited by Vicodin&FantasyBooks: 03 December 2008 - 10:44 AM

[Isaac]

Lisheo, on Sep 22 2008, 01:02 PM, said:

She gave up her name unti she left the Nameless Ones, remember. She hints that to Mappo, by saying that Taralack wasn't a real NO because he hadn't given up his name yet.

So doesn't that mean that Kruppe could do the same once he left? No one said that he was an active member... He knows too much to be just a mortal, and has some abilities that need some explaining, such as the Caladan Brood scene where he escaped unscathed. He may not be an ascendant, but he definitely isn't normal.

[the peacemaker]

my guess is thathe is a high mage focust on hidden and subtile power (like dont trippin wards insed of rippin em apart)

brood icident was probably K'ruls intervention (every one need somone to talk to dont they?

Spoiler

mael got bored

)

[Terez]

I'm confused. Why are the first however many posts of this thread repeated twice?

[Dolorous Menhir]

Terez, on Dec 20 2008, 08:32 AM, said:

I'm confused. Why are the first however many posts of this thread repeated twice?

I don't see that.

[Lisheo]

My apologies for that. Duplicated posts were a problem left over from the transfer. If you find any more threads like that, give me a PM and I will fix them.

[Dolorous Menhir]

Lisheo, on Dec 20 2008, 03:22 PM, said:

My apologies for that. Duplicated posts were a problem left over from the transfer. If you find any more threads like that, give me a PM and I will fix them.

I didn't realise you were a mod Lisheo.

Ouch.

[Lisheo]

Dolorous Menhir, on Dec 20 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

Lisheo, on Dec 20 2008, 03:22 PM, said:

My apologies for that. Duplicated posts were a problem left over from the transfer. If you find any more threads like that, give me a PM and I will fix them.

I didn't realise you were a mod Lisheo.

Ouch.

I stay under the radar
but nonetheless, RESPECT MAH AUTHORITY

[Ahlrada Ahn]

the peacemaker, on Dec 7 2008, 11:01 PM, said:

brood icident was probably K'ruls intervention (every one need somone to talk to dont they?

Spoiler

mael got bored

)

I think Kruppe was way too relaxed during the incident for him to have depended upon outside help. 100% Kruppe IMO.

[Seguleh 1st]

but something isn't subtle at all. remember brood?

[Soulessdreamer]

Traveller, on Sep 18 2008, 09:38 PM, said:

Um, that's in TTH's isn't it? This is MoI forum.

Kruppe is not a mage or ascendant, but he is an incredibly intelligent mortal. In a small lardy body.

Its in both, in TtH Baruk mentions

Spoiler

he strenghened the wards since last time but with no apparent effect.

Kruppe may not be an ascendent but a personifacation of luck/magic/chance much like weis and hickman's simkin character from their Darksword trilogy, or something else we haven't encountered yet (extraplaner entity?).

TTFN

[Aptorian]

Dolorous Menhir, on Dec 20 2008, 07:54 PM, said:

Lisheo, on Dec 20 2008, 03:22 PM, said:

My apologies for that. Duplicated posts were a problem left over from the transfer. If you find any more threads like that, give me a PM and I will fix them.

I didn't realise you were a mod Lisheo.

Ouch.

Lisheo, Dancer, Bubba, Grief and myself were upgraded to book moderators. I think McFlurry might also be a moderator, am I forgetting anyone?

Also Cougar got the full upgrade to supermod.

[Severian]

maybe Kruppe is a god when korlat asked him "who is in your shadow?" he said "no one.." from that and other things hes capable , im thinking that he maybe an elder god..(and his mule is a disguised demon) Is that possible?

[D'rek]

Severian, on Jan 23 2009, 07:07 AM, said:

maybe Kruppe is a god when korlat asked him "who is in your shadow?" he said "no one.." from that and other things hes capable , im thinking that he maybe an elder god..(and his mule is a disguised demon) Is that possible?

Anything's possible. On his mule, it has a habit (in MoI, not so much in GotM of course) to be sleepy-headed, dreaming, etc etc. This is very typical of how K'rul does things since re-entering the world in GotM. Similar cases being K'rul wandering Kruppe's dreams and acting through a sleeping Ganath with Envy...

[TeddyGraham]

I guess I'm alone then in thinking that Kruppes mule has something to do with his power. When he stood down Caladan brood the mule kicked Brood, and there have been other hints that the mule was more then it seemed.

[TeddyGraham]

Guess I should have read the whole thread before replying, but still, I considered the possibility that the mule is where Kruppe gets his power.

[RangerSG]

I do think the mule is a key to Kruppe being able to defy Brood in that scene as well. It may be that the mule is a conduit of Kruppe's connection to K'rul? I think he had access to Mockra before he had anything to do with K'rul. He was the Eel long before the Elder reawakened.

I think though that in the end, he's what Quick Ben claims, a hyper-intelligent mortal who could ascend if he wanted to, but hasn't. Is it possible to defy ascendancy? If so, then Kruppe is my candidate.

[Soulessdreamer]

RangerSG, on Feb 13 2009, 10:52 PM, said:

I do think the mule is a key to Kruppe being able to defy Brood in that scene as well. It may be that the mule is a conduit of Kruppe's connection to K'rul? I think he had access to Mockra before he had anything to do with K'rul. He was the Eel long before the Elder reawakened.

I think though that in the end, he's what Quick Ben claims, a hyper-intelligent mortal who could ascend if he wanted to, but hasn't. Is it possible to defy ascendancy? If so, then Kruppe is my candidate.

Maybe he has got the decoder ring but has yet to claim his seat, perhaps loath to leave the mortal realm.

TTFN

[RangerSG]

Soulessdreamer, on Feb 13 2009, 07:42 AM, said:

RangerSG, on Feb 13 2009, 10:52 PM, said:

I do think the mule is a key to Kruppe being able to defy Brood in that scene as well. It may be that the mule is a conduit of Kruppe's connection to K'rul? I think he had access to Mockra before he had anything to do with K'rul. He was the Eel long before the Elder reawakened.

I think though that in the end, he's what Quick Ben claims, a hyper-intelligent mortal who could ascend if he wanted to, but hasn't. Is it possible to defy ascendancy? If so, then Kruppe is my candidate.

Maybe he has got the decoder ring but has yet to claim his seat, perhaps loath to leave the mortal realm.

TTFN

I would probably go with the theory that he rejects power because he knows power attracts power. And to become an ascendant is to play by their rules. Something he refuses to do. But yes, I do believe he's at the place where if he wanted to ascend, he could.

This post has been edited by RangerSG: 13 February 2009 - 02:07 PM

[Jaghut Slayer]

The very first time we meet Kruppe in GotM we're told that he is a walking Deck of Dragons, able to see all possible futures. Couple this with the fact that he is supported by an Elder God (I like the idea of the Mule by the way, I hadn't thought of that!) then he would know how situations were going to pan out long before they occured.

Take the example with Brood. He wouldn't have been relying on K'rul interveening, he would have known in advance how things were going to occur!!

Maybe?!?!?