[Mockra]

your missing the quote in question, emurlahn was talking about yesterday not last night. he questioned whether i blocked him night 3, or at least thats how it reads when you read it and he revealed that he got a result the night he later questions whether i blocked him at all. You see he isnt talking about his no find at all, hes asking if i blocked him when he supposedly got a result as he was trying at that time to imply i was still evil because i blocked him night 3 and he is saying he is inno.

i am not saying he isnt claiming to be blocked last night, i am saying why is he claiming i might have blocked him the night before when he revealed to disprove that i had blocked him. contradicting himself.

personally its emur, korlat or rashan for me today, if people want to go for any of those three they will have my vote.

[Fener]

OK- here is my take-

Mockra-- Slimer--Has basically taken over the thread. I agree with D'riss in that if you guarded Korlat like you said, you are evil right now. I pegged Korlat as Janine 2 days ago. unless he had an elaborate setup to claim Janine planned 2 days ago. He could have laid the plans but... then he has to worry about a counter claim and since we don't have a Janine CF yet that would be insanely risky. I think Korlat is Janine.

Emurhlan-- I think Emur really is Peck, I think any CF he gets towards GB's will be negative, and anny CF towards inno/ghosts.. no idea. He is not being consistent, BUT I can't see his death as being conducive to a inno win. Its possible he has his own game plan and he wins solo if all paranormals are killed. This would explain why he is so eager to go after mockra, rather than the remaining killers. ( though if we lynch Mockra I think it buys us another day)

D'riss-- I think you are the last GB.

Kesso-- Confirmed Joe Schmoe

Korlat-- I believe is Janine. He has a post a long time back, day 1 or 2 that states he just has a name and inno. this fits and like I said, he could have set it up but... If I am Zuul and the last killer, I am NOT going to rick the real Janine calling me out.

Rashan-- I think is Keymaster, possibly Zuul. We can give NO CREDENCE to the fact that he hammered Gozer. It easily could have been a distancing move, and one that I would have done myself.

Tennes-- By elimination is Zuul but possibly Keymaster. I'm sorry and I know you guys don't want to hear this... and I fully expect Tennes to freak out. I have butted heads with him fromthe begining.

I think we throw out all this Mockra bullshit thats clouding the waters, screw emur, he's not a killer. I hate to say it but I agree with Kess on this one. Kill Rashan/Tennes/Korlat. The Killer is there. One of those three is a Killer. If we lynch wrong tonight It could be game over. I would rather lose tonight going for a killer than trying to sort out who is lying.

*as a disclaimer, D'riss if you are Zuul.... Excellent opening vote on Gozer. Bravo.

Finally... Its possible that I have Tennes and Korlat mixed up. The reveal as janine does stink in the fact that.. If you get that role, you would think there is something attached to it. if you aren't going to get to do anything, well, why aren't you a Joe Schmoe. The only thing I can think of there is that this is a Role Reveal CF and yellow might have thrown it in to sow confusion.

SO FINALLY:

In all of my scenarios (which are all probably wrong) Rashan is the link. There is no way he is innocent. If we lynch him I feel we are at least buying ourselves another day. With an Emur/Mockra lynch i think we could lose tonight if we chose wrong. and Like I said, I can't see Peck as anti town... just anti ghost. Infact he could be an unwitting zuul/gozer symp like he was in the movie.

I'll vote Rashan, or if people are being stubborn, I'll vote Mockra because, if we lynch mockra and are still playing we'll know he was evil.

There are still 2 scum out there (Zuul and Keymaster), with 3 posibilities. (Rashan, Korlat, Zuul) Why we are going after these bit players is beyond me.

vote Rashan

[Fener]

D'riss, on Dec 11 2008, 09:29 AM, said:

Tennes, on Dec 11 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

Korlats reveal strikes me as utter bullshit. A role that does nothing? Yeah, mate, thats called roleless. Oh, and you're innocent too? Whys it even a role then.

I wouldn't say that (utter bulshit part), but maybe. That's my point: let's not be naive and assume the scum will reveal as such. "Hiya, I'm Zuul and I've been shafting you at night" So we should not dismiss someone becaue they reveal "inno"

The scum will have to take a chance, they can't claim roleless inno since if all we have are roled innos and roleless innos in a mass reveal, we'll certainly start with the RIs, specially those that didn't reveal a few days back.

A good fake-reveal:
1) is not counter-claimed
2) can not be proven
3) can not be disproven.

So far, Korlat and Emur fit the bill. However, Emur's inconsistencies and "admitted" choice of finds/results and his according behavior on thread, I think I'm close to break down 3).

As for 1), then you asked yourself, would Peck be in this game?

I don't see how Peck couldn't be in this game.... And if you are the last Killer, are you really going to risk a counter claim this late???

[Mockra]

look i can see the logic in taking out rashan, cause of the day vig, i aint stupid, and if i am wrong and its not rashan then chances are because i blocked korlat i am inno at the moment anyway and the game goes to tomorrow where we lynch emur or korlat.

i will block korlat tonight, but given that it didnt work last night, expect someone else to die tonight.

[Mockra]

remove vote

rashan

fine - i can only seem to convince driss, and i am tired of explainng to people. is that 3 then? even if we are wrong it should be alright

[Mockra]

funny how we got back to where i said the killer was yesterday this game has been a serious mindfuck, i hope your right mate, but i think given that if your wrong and korlat is evil i am now inno then we are fine. basically if korlat or rashan has any sort of evil role we are grand to make it to tomorrow.

[Fener]

Mockra, on Dec 11 2008, 09:36 AM, said:

look i can see the logic in taking out rashan, cause of the day vig, i aint stupid, and if i am wrong and its not rashan then chances are because i blocked korlat i am inno at the moment anyway and the game goes to tomorrow where we lynch emur or korlat.

i will block korlat tonight, but given that it didnt work last night, expect someone else to die tonight.

Mockra- for the sake of argument say Korlat is actually Janine. You blocked him last night, kill goes through, you block hiim tonight, Kill goes through. By your own admission Rashan could be scum. What if Tennes is scum, what if they both are.. of course a kill could happen tonight. assuming you are the only guard, and if in fact you are trying to play for inno, guard Tennes tonight. (if we get a Rashan Lynch)

[Fener]

Mockra, on Dec 11 2008, 09:40 AM, said:

funny how we got back to where i said the killer was yesterday this game has been a serious mindfuck, i hope your right mate, but i think given that if your wrong and korlat is evil i am now inno then we are fine. basically if korlat or rashan has any sort of evil role we are grand to make it to tomorrow.

Exactly

[Rashan]

Fener, on Dec 11 2008, 06:33 PM, said:

if we lynch mockra and are still playing we'll know he was evil.

I like that kind of thinking.

vote Mockra

I'm willing to change to Emur if we get enough votes for it. I believe Emur is lying, but Mockra is still too dangerous too keep around, as I've said for a long time now. As for Korlat, I think he and Emur must be linked, due to Emur not wanting to disclose what he got from the find he did on Korlat.

[Fener]

What worries me is if Peck is considered scum to the town, that would be shitty.

[Rashan]

Fener, on Dec 11 2008, 06:45 PM, said:

What worries me is if Peck is considered scum to the town, that would be shitty.

No shit.

[D'riss]

Fener, on Dec 11 2008, 07:45 PM, said:

What worries me is if Peck is considered scum to the town, that would be shitty.

That's what I have been thinking.

You say it's obvious that Pecker is in the game, but you seriously see him as an inno finder?? Even with his "twist", he can still CI the RIs, that's powerful.

I'm not being stubborn, I asked your opinion for a reason and will vote Rashan when needed, it's just that every fiber of mafia instinct tells me Emur is lying about something, and that scares the shit out of me.

[Mockra]

then game would be over if both peck and i were evil, of course emurlahn isnt peck that much should be obvious to even you two.

[D'riss]

How many is that on Rashan, by the way?

[Mockra]

Rashan, on Dec 11 2008, 05:44 PM, said:

Fener, on Dec 11 2008, 06:33 PM, said:

if we lynch mockra and are still playing we'll know he was evil.

I like that kind of thinking.

vote Mockra

I'm willing to change to Emur if we get enough votes for it. I believe Emur is lying, but Mockra is still too dangerous too keep around, as I've said for a long time now. As for Korlat, I think he and Emur must be linked, due to Emur not wanting to disclose what he got from the find he did on Korlat.

theres a shock

[D'riss]

Fuck me, that's a long time without an update.

Unofficial count:

Day 5, no clue how long left.

8 of you are still alive (Rashan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Tennes, Fener, Mockra, Emurlahn)

5 votes to lynch or go to night

3 votes for Rashan: Kessobahn, Fener, Mockra
3 votes for Mockra: Korlat, Emur, Rashan
1 vote for Emur: D'riss,

1 people have not voted: Tennes


OK, no fucking way I'm voting for Mockra, that's a waste. I'm game for Rashan, but I prefer to stay the hammer because I will leave him a chance to speak first.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 11 December 2008 - 05:59 PM

[D'riss]

I'm wondering if Emur is not picking a fight with Mockra today (specially with the you-didn't-guard-me-yes-I-did and you-guarded-me-no-I-didn't skit) to distract us from Rashan.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 11 December 2008 - 06:01 PM

[Mockra]

didnt wqork with kess on the case, i suppose yesterday m,ay have been something similar and then the day vig. You could be right.

[Fener]

The way I see it,we lynch Rashan and he comes back as Keymaster, or possibly Zuul. If he comes back gatekeeper/Louis, Slimer guards Korlat or Tennes. If no NK happens, slimer has switched to good, and then tells us who he guarded. We lynch that person. We win, slimer wins, everyone is happy. ( now that I said this.... there is no way in hell this is happening) lol

[Fener]

Here is another thing we should be aware of.. Mockra could still be lying. Only he knows about his mechanic and honestly I am not sure if I still believe the whole flip-flop thing for certain.