[Tennes]

Why does it matter so much?
Yes, one of them is probably evil, unless there is another guard.
If we find whoever it is killing people, inno win, because im doubting slimer or Peck can kill people.

[D'riss]

Haha reading the double-post heavy is funny.

Emur, I get your point, in which case please keep your "involved" find secret.

I found you suspect with your attitude during Gozer's lynch yesterday, and that hasn't changed that much. Why did you reveal so quickly? We were still discussing things, you didn't even have a vote on you.

For someone that claims finder, which is quite of a role, I find this... unnatural. And until now, both Gamelon's and Kaschan's plays which I found unnatural turned out to be scummy.

Hmm.

Still, I believe you're Pecker, even though I'm not convinced you're playing purely for town. In any case, that makes you not killer.

Should we look somewhere else, then, Rashan, or Korlat, for example?

[Mockra]

back tomorrow,lynch me if you want i am slimer, you will get nothing from my cf. i have not lied about my alignment or my role.

[Korlat]

Gah! This board meltdown is driving me nuts!

As it stands, I guess then that I misread Mockra's reveal early on.
As for having to lynch both of them, I doubt that's necessary.

If Emur can give us a list of finds and they make sense then I guess I would be willing to PI him.
However do not misread this! I am not asking for the list now! I am saying that if by consensus we feel that we (as in the town) need/want him to reveal it he should and if its a list of dead Innos I am not going to be convinced.

@Emurlahn:Also I find it hard to believe you can tell the difference between a human and a ghost, but not a GB and a normal human.

I also noticed that Omtose is missing.
I would have loved some input from him today.

[Fener]

Just got here, gonna catch up

[Rashan]

Catching up.

[D'riss]

Oh, fresh brains

Seriously, they are needed

[Tennes]

Argh! Abyss is in teh mafia!!!

Here for about another half hour or so.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 10 December 2008 - 05:22 PM

[Rashan]

So the only reason we're keeping Mockra alive is that he can be turned? I think he should be lynched because he can be turned.

I'm finding this game's "neutral" reveals to be confusing. They just seem to me so unlikely. Not sure how to interpret Emur's reveal, although it's kind of elaborate to be a scam. But then a wise man said "great lies are the best, because they're easier to believe." I think we need to start looking for inconsistencies that comes from those elaborate stories Emur and Mockra spouts.

You really want the possible other guard to reveal? I'm not sure he would be believed if he tried. This game is starting to get under my skin.

[Tennes]

Im guessing thats why the guard hasnt revealed. Either that or they havent been on yet.
Personally, im happy to lynch mockra however, he doesnt kill people, so its more of a priority to find whoever does.

[Fener]

Tennes, on Dec 10 2008, 05:18 AM, said:

We hit Gozer! W00t!
Oh, and iirc we shouldnt be counting Stay Puft and Gozer seperately, didnt Gozer challenge the GBs to think of something or other, and then turned into Stay Puft? Is that right? Been a while since I seen the movie.

Not sure why HP died. I mean, why hit someone everyones calling RI? Unless I suppose, they know there's not many of them left, and that for majority it will come down to only a few players, and therefore want any CIs gone, because that'd make it harder for them? I mean, a couple of CIs now, isnt gonna be a massive advantage, not compared to having a couple of CIs left, when theres only 4 players total left, one sucm, etc.

You get told anything mockra?

I think it's clear why they killed HP, He and D'riss were main proponents of the Kaschan Lynch and he seemed to have a pretty clear understanding of where he was going, he was in the VPI/RI group and if they would have gone outside of that group We would have a Block of 5 voters plus Mockra in an 11 person game. We'd just vote off You, Rash, Emur and Korlat in order assuming assuming one of you was Nk'd. I put D'riss at PI but still not totally known. If they would have gone outside the CI/VPI group they would have lost. Period.

[Tennes]

Aye.
So the question for today is who we think is the remaining killer.
I think we should ignore emu/mockra for today, since neither has a role that, while evil, will be killing people, so if we find the killer, it is inno win.

This means its either:

Tennes-Well, I know its not.
D'riss-Unlikely, I feel.
Rashan-Fairly likely
Korlat-Fairly likely

Is this everyone? Have I missed anyone?

[Rashan]

I have to go in 10 minutes, will be back in a couple of hours.

[Fener]

Well, in my mind we have 2 issues. We have a list of 4 possible killers. This is my opinion:

Rashan, Tennes, Korlat, and Emur. you might throw D'riss in that group, but he and HP led the Gozer charge so unless its some incredible distancing I am not throwing him in there.

Other issue: The Emur/Mockra debate. Neither of which is probably a killer. Only a liar. I guess Emur could still be a killer knowing he was going to come under heat today he could have concocted the finder reveal. Though since Peck is a major character, and no one has counter claimed, I am inclined to believe he is Peck, but not give full credit for what his role actually does.

Since neither of those 2 are likely killers, I think we should go for the group of 4 that has the most likely killer. If you take out Emur from the list of 4 that leaves us with Rashan, Tennes, and Korlat. One is a GB, One is a Killer, and one is the Keymaster.

side note D'riss is an unknown so the group of three might not have one of the roles I mentioned.

Am I way off base here?

Bah! Cross with Tennes. And we are thinking alike... that makes me nervous.

This post has been edited by Fener: 10 December 2008 - 05:51 PM

[Tennes]

Umm, I dont think 4 killers?
I was thinkning killer might be same as Keymaster?

Cause iirc, in the film, Gozer turns into stay puft, so they're not diff people.


Edit for clarity:
When I say 4 killers, im meaning 4 scum to start. I think we started KM, GK, and Gozer. Zuul and Gozer can Kill, Dana as symp?

This post has been edited by Tennes: 10 December 2008 - 05:54 PM

[Tennes]

Anyhow, ive g2g now, for about an hour or two.
Then back tommorow after that.

[Fener]

Tennes, on Dec 10 2008, 09:45 AM, said:

Aye.
So the question for today is who we think is the remaining killer.
I think we should ignore emu/mockra for today, since neither has a role that, while evil, will be killing people, so if we find the killer, it is inno win.

This means its either:

Tennes-Well, I know its not.
D'riss-Unlikely, I feel.
Rashan-Fairly likely
Korlat-Fairly likely

Is this everyone? Have I missed anyone?

I think its possible that Emur might be a killer... very unlikely, but still possible. Just want to throw that out there so we don't narrow our vision too much.

[Kessobahn]

One point I would like to make. If Game was an inno(Dana wasn't possesed so maybe was inno until then) then when Mockra gaurded him, Mockra would have changed to evil. If in fact that mechanic is true. Wouldn't it be good for Mockra to then fake gaurd Emur, and the kill still goes through. Sure, and then when Emur says his find on HP came up inno, we would believe he is a finder and not risk lynching him. Its a bold move. But its a possible. Look at how the day is turning, lets not lynch either and find the killer? That is just too easy. Am I making sense, or is this a dumb train of thought?

[Kessobahn]

One other point. We know we got a bad guy. So there is a killer, possibly a symp, and Mockra running around. We lynch Emur, if he's not a killer, a NK goes through. We lynch Mockra, if he's not a killer, a NK goes through. 6 people left, with a possible killer and symp left. So in theory we have 3 days to get one killer or one symp. 4 days if we get the symp. Its still not do or die, so I say we lynch both, maybe lose a finder and gaurd thing, then re-evaluate.

Remove vote Vote Emurlahn

[Path-Shaper]

it's day 4, about 31 hours left

10 of you are still alive (Rashan, Ruse, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Tennes, Fener, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn)

6 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for Mockra: Ruse
1 vote for Emurlahn: Kessobahn,

8 people have not voted: Rashan, D'riss, ,Mockra Korlat, Tennes, Fener, Omtose, Emurlahn