[D'riss]

Mockra, on Dec 10 2008, 03:51 PM, said:

i already revealed as evil, i dont see why people are ignoring it. i can turn though so unless the evil started with alot of players i am just a guard who happens to be evil. you can lynch me if you want, but i am telling the truth, i havent lied once about my role. i never recieved a pm about my alignment and i have guarded twice so any confusion people have of whether i am still nuetral should dispell it. I am the opposite of emurlahn now, so reveal if you are inno i am evil.

i think i am pretty set with narrowing down to you three players with rashan lowest on that list as he is the most obvious link to kaschan, and so least likely. So its you or korlat for me, if we lynch one i will guard theother. If you want to lynch me today then go ahead.

Are you saying you believe you can constantly swap team depending on your last guard? I assumed your first guard would decide your orientation.

I'm happy you always try to play inno nonetheless, but what's your own plan? Once we spot a guaranteed last scum, we wait one night for you to guard him so you can win with us?

That's why I have trouble to always trust you, you want to win too, no?

[Emurlahn]

D'riss, on Dec 10 2008, 02:48 PM, said:

Oh, interesting.

Well, we can see it this way: out of the two (Emur, Mockra), right now, one of them is good roled and one of them is evil roled. Lynching them both guarantees we kill a scum, and a good role.

But since Slimer is a guard and there was a kill, then neither of them is the missing killer, so maybe we can let them both be for now and focus on the missing killer?

Well, I think one reason why Mockra doesn't want me to reveal, is because my night action worked last night. So, ladies and gents, we have ourselves a liar.
My role is both trivial and not trivial. It's not trivial once I understand exactly what it does, but it is trivial up until then. I think if I reveal, the killer probably can't ignore me, so I'd buy the GB another day.

[Kessobahn]

Of course, If MEur is inno, then that means Mockra is definately scum if the mechanic isn't a lie.Also, freaking board is sucking for me, i bet it crashes again soon.

[Mockra]

well if someone announces on thread - I am guarding this person, you can be pretty fuckign sure they are lying. Even morgo said your guarding emur arent you. Obviously if there was no kill iw as going to wait and see who jumped up thinking nows a good time to get rashan lynched, but they went ahead with the kill. now two choices here

either rashan thought he was guarded so put in for a kill anyway (though if he was killer i think i would have been killed because i would be an inno guard)

or someone thought the kill would go through because i was guarding rashan and didnt want to waste it as they are the only one left. If rashan isnt the killer, the killer knew i would still be evil today so didnt care what would happen.

realsitically guarding rashan after announcing it on thread would only have proved no one died if no kill had gone through instead i cleared someone else.

Just because he is your top suspect and i cleared him on your recommendation your whining?

[Tennes]

Well, im happy enough to believe mockra is lying. He has pushed "why would I lie" in our faces all game, and doesnt strike me as innocent. A lot of the stuff he does, for example, doesnt add up,

[D'riss]

Emurlahn, on Dec 10 2008, 04:07 PM, said:

D'riss, on Dec 10 2008, 02:48 PM, said:

Oh, interesting.

Well, we can see it this way: out of the two (Emur, Mockra), right now, one of them is good roled and one of them is evil roled. Lynching them both guarantees we kill a scum, and a good role.

But since Slimer is a guard and there was a kill, then neither of them is the missing killer, so maybe we can let them both be for now and focus on the missing killer?

Well, I think one reason why Mockra doesn't want me to reveal, is because my night action worked last night. So, ladies and gents, we have ourselves a liar.
My role is both trivial and not trivial. It's not trivial once I understand exactly what it does, but it is trivial up until then. I think if I reveal, the killer probably can't ignore me, so I'd buy the GB another day.

You killed HP???

[Emurlahn]

D'riss, on Dec 10 2008, 03:13 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on Dec 10 2008, 04:07 PM, said:

D'riss, on Dec 10 2008, 02:48 PM, said:

Oh, interesting.

Well, we can see it this way: out of the two (Emur, Mockra), right now, one of them is good roled and one of them is evil roled. Lynching them both guarantees we kill a scum, and a good role.

But since Slimer is a guard and there was a kill, then neither of them is the missing killer, so maybe we can let them both be for now and focus on the missing killer?

Well, I think one reason why Mockra doesn't want me to reveal, is because my night action worked last night. So, ladies and gents, we have ourselves a liar.
My role is both trivial and not trivial. It's not trivial once I understand exactly what it does, but it is trivial up until then. I think if I reveal, the killer probably can't ignore me, so I'd buy the GB another day.

You killed HP???

[sarcasm] yeah, that's why I reveal. [/sarcasm]

[Tennes]

So, you say you guarded emur, and he says his action went through?
One of you is certainly lying.
Hard to guess which.
Im gonna wait for others, so dont reveal, but I reckon emur revealing could clear it up. After all, if it is a role that can become not trivial, then if hes lying someone else will probably have it.

[Kessobahn]

On other thing. If Mockra is evil, and gaurds the killer, that would be against the rules, as he wouldn' be helping his team. So, I would really like to hear Emur's reveal. Who is the liar?

[Mockra]

like what? come on give me an example oh high and mighty one? i have been perfectly candid the whole game. Saying i am going to guard someone on thread is a death warrant if we are wrong with the guard. What would you have done? Oh right your roled, so what did you do? investiagte anybody, or maybe your a healer, or something useful, except you have done a remarkably poor job so far so my guessing is you are either the killer or an ri and omtose jumped the gun sayign joe schmoe and now you cant and your rather pissed off.

[Tennes]

Yeah actually, you may as well reveal. Its not gonna get cleared up otherwise, and it could be a waste of someone roled. Its always gonna come down to revealing anyhow, so id prefer if you did it now rather than later, when we've got more time for a possible counter reveal.
You dont need to tell us what it does, but a name would be nice.
If not one counter reveals, I reckon its obvious Mokcra is lying.

[Tennes]

And now you're fishing for if i've got a decent role. Well actually, excuse me if I dont give the killers a good reason to kill me. The longer I survive the better for my team, so no, im not gonna rise to the bait and reveal for no reason.

You havent been perfectly candid. You've said you dont get told your alignment, which I doubt.
Not only that, but you've been repeating your brainwashing messgae of "why would I lie" when the answer to that is blatant.

[Mockra]

i definitely blocked you emurlahn so unless your paired your talking shit.

@driss - i made it perfectly clear that my alignment changed depending on last guarded, i hope to hit a scum and then we lynch him the next day.

if it looks liek i am gonna get lycnhed i am gonna post my role pm to prove that your all so smart that you know whats going on and yet your all totally wrong

[Tennes]

If you post your role pm, then however inno you are, you deserve modkilled. Its against the rules.

One of you is evil.
If emurlahn reveals, it ought to clear up which.

[Mockra]

@tennes - no i just think your full of crap. your so sure of yourself its ridiculous.

[Tennes]

"Why would I lie"

[Kessobahn]

One point, if an evil gaurd, gaurded Mockra, would the kill still go through, if that happened?

[D'riss]

Tennes, on Dec 10 2008, 04:24 PM, said:

And now you're fishing for if i've got a decent role. Well actually, excuse me if I dont give the killers a good reason to kill me. The longer I survive the better for my team, so no, im not gonna rise to the bait and reveal for no reason.

You havent been perfectly candid. You've said you dont get told your alignment, which I doubt.
Not only that, but you've been repeating your brainwashing messgae of "why would I lie" when the answer to that is blatant.

Hmm, you freaked out at the RI reveals because you (rightfully) said that the point of a RI is to attrack the killer's kill, and now you say this. "Don't give the killers a reason to kill you"? There's been more than enough of those, and still here you are. But anyways.

As for Emurlahn, I'm curious what he says about his "action going through". I thought for a minute he claimed to have vigged HP, but if that's not it I fail to see how it can be proven.

I'm not sure I want him to reveal, but why the hell did he go half-way? He wasn't getting votes, WTF? He's trying to discredit Mockra, but also his claim that he's a guard, when the fact that he IS a guard would have "proven" to us he (Emur) is not a killer, so why reveal now?

I'm lost here.

[Path-Shaper]

Mockra, on Dec 10 2008, 03:25 PM, said:

if it looks liek i am gonna get lycnhed i am gonna post my role pm to prove that your all so smart that you know whats going on and yet your all totally wrong

Ahem...

rules said:

Players must not

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B7) Quote, in whole or part, PMs from (or other private conversations with) the mods on the thread, or discuss the timing of any PMs sent to the mods.

[Emurlahn]

Oki, I'm Peck, from the US Environmental protection agency, send to investigate the crisis.
Yes, that's right, I'm the little bastard who got the GB arrested and was then referred to as Dickless by one of the GB (had a youtube moment there), but I'm a Goodie none the less(and even if you refuse to believe that, the fact that I'm human means I don't have to be eliminated). I'm a Finder.

You spot the trouble, neh?
Peck was adamant in refusing to acknowledge ghosts and the need for the GB to be around and fighting them.
So, maybe I am an insane finder, but if so, who do I identify as what? There are 3 categories I think: normal human beings, paranormals, and GBs.

If insane, I'll spot GBs as bad guys, but that still leaves the ghosts, that I refuse to believe in...
Last night, I seized the opportunity to investigate a known RI (so VPI) and see how they came up, so I investigated HP.
He came up as 'not being involved in unpleasantries'.

That's all I wish to say for now. I'll also say that I have a person who gave a 'was causing problems' result.

EDIT: to paraphrase and not get suck into clause B7

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 10 December 2008 - 02:45 PM