[Kaschan]

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 01:01 AM, said:

You don't like to put someone at L-1, but now that there's more people, thus more chances of a hammer it convinces you to do it?

I don't like to when I might have to wait eight hours to find out what happened. It's been an hour since a mod left, one's got to be on soon.

Of course, now I bet no one will want to hammer ...

[Omtose]

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 03:56 AM, said:

By the way, I kinda believe Mockra and his reveal, and his current confusion of not having a team after his first night. It makes sense if Gamelon is Dana

However, as of now he needs to find a scum to stay in our team. Unless Mockra has seriously well hidden game-savyness that he's hiding so far on purpose, I would say the odds are quite overwhelming that tomorrow he'll be a scum guard.

He should just not guard anyone untill we are more sure we have a person that is scum.

[D'riss]

Kaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 11:04 AM, said:

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 01:01 AM, said:

You don't like to put someone at L-1, but now that there's more people, thus more chances of a hammer it convinces you to do it?

I don't like to when I might have to wait eight hours to find out what happened. It's been an hour since a mod left, one's got to be on soon.

Of course, now I bet no one will want to hammer ...

So you don't like putting someone at L-1 early because you might have to wait to see what happens, but when there's more people around and possibly a mod coming soon it convinces you do to it?

If you don't like to wait to see what happens, then you SHOULD put the guy at L-1 while you still have time before leaving. Not wanting to put someone at L-1 usually means you don't want the guy lynched yet.

Makes no sense.

[Mockra]

if people want to put forward their most likely scum targets go ahead, personally i think rashan is my next best bet for scum which is why i have indicated i am going to guard him tonight.

[D'riss]

Omtose, on Dec 8 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

He should just not guard anyone untill we are more sure we have a person that is scum.

Good luck talking to him

What I want is for him to guard HIMSELF, so the universe can implode. That would be cool.

[D'riss]

Mockra, on Dec 8 2008, 11:07 AM, said:

if people want to put forward their most likely scum targets go ahead, personally i think rashan is my next best bet for scum which is why i have indicated i am going to guard him tonight.

Do you mind re-stating the reasons?

From what I remember Rashan was having an epileptic fit trying to convince us to lynch the GateKeeper before your reveal. Doesn't sound that scummy to me looking back now.

[Kaschan]

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 01:06 AM, said:

So you don't like putting someone at L-1 early because you might have to wait to see what happens, but when there's more people around and possibly a mod coming soon it convinces you do to it?

If you don't like to wait to see what happens, then you SHOULD put the guy at L-1 while you still have time before leaving.

Huh? Now I might have to stay up an extra thirty minutes. As opposed to finding out what happened in eight or nine hours. More people = more chance of things moving along. This isn't a matter of gameplay, it's a matter of personal entertainment.

[D'riss]

Kaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 11:11 AM, said:

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 01:06 AM, said:

So you don't like putting someone at L-1 early because you might have to wait to see what happens, but when there's more people around and possibly a mod coming soon it convinces you do to it?

If you don't like to wait to see what happens, then you SHOULD put the guy at L-1 while you still have time before leaving.

Huh? Now I might have to stay up an extra thirty minutes. As opposed to finding out what happened in eight or nine hours. More people = more chance of things moving along. This isn't a matter of gameplay, it's a matter of personal entertainment.

...

What?

[Omtose]

Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 06:48 PM, said:

Alright, let me some up my role deliberation-
-On the Good Side-
Normal Innos. I'm roleless, I don't know if all of us are, but its possible there are one or two like Slimer or something.
Ghost Busters- We're missing two so there's no point discussing what they're powers are, but from last night, it sees they are passive or limited. They ain't vigs, or else maybe they each have a one use vig or something. Their lazer beam things were basically big destructive lazers, so I expected them to be vigs, but it seems not. Finders, maybe.

Now, thats a lot. If you toss the possibility of Slimer being good in there, that gives us a Guard and a one hit finder, too.

Team Scum have, from what we've seen, one nk.
So its stands to reason that there are probably a few of them, and/or they are kitted out with some insane BPs, otherwise this game could realistically end pretty soon.

edit:massive crosspost

second edit: and actually, four and four makes perfect sense when you consider the numbers. There were 17 at the start, one being Slimer. If you assume that there are no other neutral roles, well then, he has a one in two chance of getting a role every night.

Then again, Im just trying to be as logical about this as possible. That may be a bad idea, with Yellow as mod

Role speculation... a big no no

[Mockra]

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 09:10 AM, said:

Mockra, on Dec 8 2008, 11:07 AM, said:

if people want to put forward their most likely scum targets go ahead, personally i think rashan is my next best bet for scum which is why i have indicated i am going to guard him tonight.

Do you mind re-stating the reasons?

From what I remember Rashan was having an epileptic fit trying to convince us to lynch the GateKeeper before your reveal. Doesn't sound that scummy to me looking back now.

but he didnt know who they were at the time. After the convo between emur, rashan and kess it seemed like emur was the only one not forcibly revealing that gamelon wasnt what he seemed. Kess seems RI, but playing badly, while rashan seemed deliberately obtuse aboutthe whole thing and intent on outing gamelon. He seemed intent on inno role speculation, plus as he suspected i was evil he must have thought gam was inno given my stupid mechanic so it was defo forcing an inno out into the open.

[Kaschan]

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 01:12 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 11:11 AM, said:

Huh? Now I might have to stay up an extra thirty minutes. As opposed to finding out what happened in eight or nine hours. More people = more chance of things moving along. This isn't a matter of gameplay, it's a matter of personal entertainment.

...

What?

I want a bit of resolution before I leave. When I was the only person here, that wasn't real likely, and voting and wandering off to bed wouldn't have been very satisfying. Now that people are showing up, maybe we'll finish him off sooner rather than later. I had hoped a mod would be here by now ... I might have to leave with him at L-1 anyways, since I'm getting rather tired.

[Mockra]

if kess really is a symp as some people are saying, guarding him should make me an inno. What about guarding kessobahn tonight?

[D'riss]

Mockra, on Dec 8 2008, 11:16 AM, said:

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 09:10 AM, said:

Mockra, on Dec 8 2008, 11:07 AM, said:

if people want to put forward their most likely scum targets go ahead, personally i think rashan is my next best bet for scum which is why i have indicated i am going to guard him tonight.

Do you mind re-stating the reasons?

From what I remember Rashan was having an epileptic fit trying to convince us to lynch the GateKeeper before your reveal. Doesn't sound that scummy to me looking back now.

but he didnt know who they were at the time. After the convo between emur, rashan and kess it seemed like emur was the only one not forcibly revealing that gamelon wasnt what he seemed. Kess seems RI, but playing badly, while rashan seemed deliberately obtuse aboutthe whole thing and intent on outing gamelon. He seemed intent on inno role speculation, plus as he suspected i was evil he must have thought gam was inno given my stupid mechanic so it was defo forcing an inno out into the open.

Actually, my bad. He freaked out AFTER your reveal, and he made his fit against you.

Maybe he's the KeyMaster who got afraid for his screw Ironically, if you guard him you might end up in the same situation as today.

[D'riss]

Kaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 11:19 AM, said:

I want a bit of resolution before I leave. When I was the only person here, that wasn't real likely, and voting and wandering off to bed wouldn't have been very satisfying. Now that people are showing up, maybe we'll finish him off sooner rather than later. I had hoped a mod would be here by now ... I might have to leave with him at L-1 anyways, since I'm getting rather tired.

"Satisfying"?

You better be saying that because you're back-pedaling right now, otherwise I have a rant ready for you.

[D'riss]

Mockra, on Dec 8 2008, 11:22 AM, said:

if kess really is a symp as some people are saying, guarding him should make me an inno. What about guarding kessobahn tonight?

Do you realize that after your well thought-out reveal, there's no way in hell I will trust anything you say tomorrow, including your ultimate guard target?

[Kaschan]

D'riss, on Dec 8 2008, 01:25 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Dec 8 2008, 11:19 AM, said:

I want a bit of resolution before I leave. When I was the only person here, that wasn't real likely, and voting and wandering off to bed wouldn't have been very satisfying. Now that people are showing up, maybe we'll finish him off sooner rather than later. I had hoped a mod would be here by now ... I might have to leave with him at L-1 anyways, since I'm getting rather tired.

"Satisfying"?

You better be saying that because you're back-pedaling right now, otherwise I have a rant ready for you.

Have at it. I'm in this game for personal entertainment, just like everyone else. Letting you guys have all the fun while I'm asleep is annoying, but it happens a lot to me because of time zones. And then I look like a low poster, unless I spam a bunch during the Night, which I've never been inclined to do.

And this was definitely shaping up to be another case of "OK, I'll leave, and this lynch will get wrapped up without me around, along with the discussion to follow." In which case, I'd probably log back on tomorrow morning, right in the middle of a damned boring Night, as I've done a few too many times.

Edit: And now P-S is on, and no one will drop the damned hammer. Omtose? You still on?

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 08 December 2008 - 09:33 AM

[Omtose]

D'riss, on Dec 5 2008, 08:32 AM, said:

Hmm, well, I also have alt-guessed Omtose, and that's a guy who would (and has) come to play in situation no normally constituted male would otherwise manage to.

My earlier comment about him not showing up was not a complaint, but a concern, hope he's fine.

Game-wise, I'm not sure how to proceed if he doesn't say anything. The time stops before end-of-day, do I understand well?

Thanks for the concern, but it was all just a general problem with the internet in my area.
Internet is still timing out quite allot, but at least there IS internet now

[Hood's Path]

Mockra, on Dec 8 2008, 11:22 AM, said:

if kess really is a symp as some people are saying, guarding him should make me an inno. What about guarding kessobahn tonight?

If Gamelon comes up evil, I think you should guard Kaschan myself. Kessobahn I think is innocent

[Mockra]

for being the hammer?

[Hood's Path]

Mockra, on Dec 8 2008, 11:43 AM, said:

for being the hammer?

no, I already laid out my reason for believing Kaschan Gamelon's partner a bit above. It has to do with how he's dealt with the growing Gamelon train