[Path-Shaper]

Drunk mod has read the threat. that is all.

Serioulsy, tyou don't wnt me doing maths right now so if someone is about to get lynche, then tell me cos I'll be on for like five mins. If not, then maybne a more speosisible mod will come on soon and do a proper post count.

Fucking peace.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 07 December 2008 - 02:27 AM

[Kaschan]

Talking about Omtose:

Ruse, on Dec 6 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

He was trying to bring attention to Korlat and Kaschan on day 1. Now if they were scum, it would suit them to keep him quiet so that his early aggression has time to fade into the background.

I'd like to see Omtose return and defend as much as anyone, but it's not entirely important to me at this point - I'll soon be dropping my vote for him, and voting Kesso or Mockra, in light of their increasingly bizarre behavior, and especially the risk's inherent in letting Mockra live and potentially expand the scum's numbers. Not to mention Kesso strangely looking to i.d. Gamelon as a GB ... I have no idea what that's about, either as a fakeout, or, well, whatever the hell it was supposed to be. Symping?


... in fact, after a quick read-through to see what happened to Omtose, I'll provisionally:

Remove Vote

Either he forgot the game was running, or there's a Silencer scum - and either way, I'm going to ease up on someone who's not around to defend themselves. While I figure out how to interpret Kesso, Mockra, and Gamelon ...

[Path-Shaper]

Rejoice and celebrate, a sober mod's here, before going to bed

Day 2, weeknd freeze is in effect. Clock starts at 7GMT Monday, with 12 hours left.

15 of you are still alive (Rashan, Ruse, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn, Hood's Path)

8 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for D'riss: Shadow
1 vote for Mockra : Rashan,
3 votes for Omtose : Ruse, Fener, D'riss,
3 votes for Gamelon: Emurlahn, Mockra, Kessobahn

7 people have not voted: Gamelon, Hood's Path, Omtose, Silanah, Tennes, Korlat, Kaschan

[D'riss]

Woa, the last few pages were brutal.

Honestly, guys, lay off the egos. Sometimes you'll be wrong, sometimes you'll be right, but realize you'll be wrong way more often than you'll be right. That game is not about you.

Now, some thoughts:

I can't believe Mockra can be so dense, he has to be acting. Wanting to lynch the one he guarded, why? To know his alignment? I mean, honestly? Don't be insulted, but if you're honest in that you really play badly. Here's why:

1) If your role is what you say it is, how on the fucking earth can you think the mods would not tell you what team you're on if you gain one, and in the case of the killers team, who the killers are. I mean, honestly? If you haven't been told anything, then you're still in between, period. Now WHY you didn't gain a team by guarding Gamelon is another story. I can't imagine the innos, even roleless, woulnd't count as "good", so the more I think about it, the more I think something is iffy with Gamelon.

2) Assuming Yellow recently underwent a lobotomy and you actually HAVE to figure out what team you're on on purpose. There's a very good chance, statistically, that Gamelon is inno, i.e. you became evil. Lynching him will just get you lynched tomorrow. Period. That's it, you "found out your team", good job boy, and you sacrificed yourself for an inno. Fantastic play, there. Again, this game is not about you.

...to be continued

[D'riss]

Can a role like Mockra make sense in a game, the way he described it?

If he gains the opposite team as his first guard target, then it means that there's many chances that evil team will gain a guard on night 1, and a small chance the innos will. Guard is a powerful role, so it can make a big difference. Unless he loses the guard once he gains a team.

What's more probable, that the mods made an underpowered evil team that has high chances of gaining a symp, or an overpowered evil team that has a small chance of losing a symp? Tough to tell. But since Slimer is a ghost, and a pain in the ass in the movies, I would think the role works kinda as what he revealed, i.e. there's more chances he will become evil than inno.

Now what does this say about Gamelon? He quickly said after that he was RI, then made a string of retarded posts where he claims not knowing his name, claims to be coding stuff to prove himself, etc. This is a high TMDI game, so it's very possible there's a third team there, one that should not be able to gain the Slimer symp. A bit like Silanah said, maybe Gamelon is the goverment bastards that unleashed the Ghosts in the movie. He's exposed with the Slimer revealed and he's been acting strange since.

The cases on Omtose and Gamelon are not conflicting, but if Gamelon is "neutral" then I think he should be taken care of early. In case his team is cult or FM (he's been talking a lot about FMs in this game)

Either that, or RI is not considered "good" by the mods, which is absurd. Mockra said "if I guard good", not "if I guard a good role".

Conclusions: Mockra is telling the truth, and we want to lynch Gamelon who is most probably in the "wild card" team.
Mockra is lying, and the only point of his lie would be to innocent Gamelon. This is slightly less probable since he's keen to lynch Gamelon out of what I consider selfishness.

remove vote

vote Gamelon

[D'riss]

12 hours after time starts again is short, so it would be good to no wait until then to discuss.

I want to hear from Omtose before he gets lynched, so maybe lynching Gamelon today and, if wwe don't like his answers, Omtose the next day (or someone else, if we get new interesting information) is a good plan.

[Gamelon]

Oh, dear lord.

Vote Mockra

That's all I can say. I think he's scum, and I think he is a finder-symp who has to locate his masters, or is trying to signal them for some reason.

Reasons for this: Someone mentioned his insistance to guard me tonight. I agree. Even if his role acts like he says he does, that is questionable. If his goal is to find a win condition, then his playing style is detrimental to himself. The reveal was pointless, and I don't understand why he did it, unless his aim was to get me lynched or signal me to his masters. I am worried that it is the later.
He mentioned P-S sent him a message saying "finder-guard, like fuck." No one else picked up on this, but where I come from, and its possible its just limited to my country, but that means "You're not a finder guard at all!" which sounds suspiciously like a signal to me.
As there is no CF, lynching him will not exonerate me tomorrow, because chances are he really is Slimer.

Kessobahn raised an interesting point. If he truly is an RI, and he does not have a name, well...
I do have a name, but I have no ability, and I am a goodie. Believe me or not, but I am not a GB, so no worries there, if you have to lynch me, so be it.

[Rashan]

Actually, Gamelon, Mockra said he would guard me, not you...

@ Silanah, can you clarify what you mean when you say Gamelon is roled, but still RI? I got confused about that part.

[Gamelon]

He means like a normal guard or healer, I would assume, not a GB.

[Gamelon]

And my bad, I remembered him saying something bout guarding me earlier.

[Mockra]

Gamelon, on Dec 7 2008, 01:19 PM, said:

Oh, dear lord.

Vote Mockra

That's all I can say. I think he's scum, and I think he is a finder-symp who has to locate his masters, or is trying to signal them for some reason.

Reasons for this: Someone mentioned his insistance to guard me tonight. I agree. Even if his role acts like he says he does, that is questionable. If his goal is to find a win condition, then his playing style is detrimental to himself. The reveal was pointless, and I don't understand why he did it, unless his aim was to get me lynched or signal me to his masters. I am worried that it is the later.
He mentioned P-S sent him a message saying "finder-guard, like fuck." No one else picked up on this, but where I come from, and its possible its just limited to my country, but that means "You're not a finder guard at all!" which sounds suspiciously like a signal to me.
As there is no CF, lynching him will not exonerate me tomorrow, because chances are he really is Slimer.

Kessobahn raised an interesting point. If he truly is an RI, and he does not have a name, well...
I do have a name, but I have no ability, and I am a goodie. Believe me or not, but I am not a GB, so no worries there, if you have to lynch me, so be it.

as to the start rashan already explained that i am guarding him. i thought you were RI until kessobahn decided to reveal that RI's get no name, he never even considered the possibility of a pasive role that required a name but didnt have to be evil or roled inno. that he highlighted this on thread was what set me off last night.

My worry is you have a role that the evils need to find, if you have a name and are roleless perhapos its akin to claire in the heroes game where you are part of their winning conditions which would be a good reason to remove you, unless osme goodies also have that need, in which case we are screwed as they should not be coming forward. My only hope is if that is the case you have a lynch bp or something.

[Gamelon]

Oh, and for the record, I want people to take a look at Silanah, Tennes, and Fener. Just from general playstyle, process of elimination, and post content, they seem to helpful, and too under-the-radar.

[Mockra]

Gamelon, on Dec 7 2008, 01:44 PM, said:

And my bad, I remembered him saying something bout guarding me earlier.

i had said i would guard you so people could be sure of my alignment as i would be opposite of you.

[Gamelon]

I do NOT have a lynch BP. As far as I know I have no abilities whatsoever.

[Mockra]

this is why i dont know what kess was thinking, because the killers obviously have names and i have a name so i assumed ri's did as well. if he had of kept quiet the killers would never have known you werent a normal RI

[Gamelon]

Mockra, on Dec 7 2008, 01:53 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Dec 7 2008, 01:44 PM, said:

And my bad, I remembered him saying something bout guarding me earlier.

i had said i would guard you so people could be sure of my alignment as i would be opposite of you.

Right. Well, you see, Ive reached a point where Im rather curious about you. Your reveal really could only have worked as a way to flush me out in the open and get me lynched or nked. True, it is sacrificial, but Im wondering. Its possible it was a case of mistaken identity, but the blasted thing is, we already know your role, you've claimed no alignment, so not much info can be gotten from your train if we do lynch you.

[Mockra]

I have to apologise about that, i was in a pissed off mood at work and wasn't thinking straight. if i had of waited until late int hegame i may have been a valuable player, as is, i am pretty much a lynch waiting to happen. I am going to guard rashan tonight and if i dont get an alignment i am certain i never will.

[Gamelon]

Interestingly, if all thats revealed is name and account though, how would nameless RI's work? The CF doesn't give away faction, and I would assume saying Roleless Innocent died would be giving away faction.

[Mockra]

so do you think kesso is bullshiting?

[Gamelon]

Its possible. I had him pegged as RI, and if its true that RI's don't have names, then why didn't I get called on it earlier? I don't understand why he tried to say I was a GB, either. That's the last thing any inno would want, because even if I was a GB and as such didn't get lynched, I'd be GUARANTEED to be nked that night. Death would be certain.