[Kessobahn]

Mockra, on Dec 6 2008, 05:10 PM, said:

I have stressed this since i revealed, i was told i was not a finder guard, i will not get a pm telling me my new alignment. if i currently am not neutral i have not been informed. By your own reckoning gamelon can't be a ghostbuster because otherwise i woul dhave been told i am evil. I think he is RI and i am EVIL, yet none of you seem to believe that.

Are you sure. I went back and you said this

a) You didn't recieve a pm telling you what your allignment was
You assumed you were a finder gaurd
c) PS said like fuck you are a finder gaurd.

I didn't see where PS said you would never get the alignment pm. Now, that causes other problems. And Game, sorry if I am over stepping, but as a Roleless inno, I know you are lying about getting a name. I assumed it was because you are a GB, but you may be a roled inno, or an evil scum. I dunno, I am inclind to believe scum, if and only if, Mockra NEVER gets a alignment pm. Nice job Yellow, or if Mockra created that mechanic, like Emur believes, good job Mockra.

[Ruse]

I find it very hard to believe that you don't get told your alignment, Mockra. That would just make it completely impossible for you to play. An integral part of this game is knowing what your objectives are, after all. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me that you wouldn't be told which team you're on. The more I see about this, the more it doesn't add up for me. I've been pushing hard on Omtose, but I'm starting to think it might be a good idea to switch to either Gamelon or Mockra. Willing to give it a bit more time to play out before I make a decision though.

[Rashan]

Kessobahn, on Dec 6 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

Fuck, are you guys serious, I may be making a big mistake, but all I can do is hope for a fucking healer after I clarify this. Em, you seem really smart, and certainly like picking me apart, so I can't believe you are this dull. As for Mockra, there are only 2 reasons for him pushing a Game lynch, either he didn't think his reveal through or he's scum. So I am going to tell you what I think you are missing.

Game is a fucking GB, what isn't inno or evil. The fucking GB, they aren't inno, because they aren't town. They aren't evil, because they are on the towns side, I can't believe you didn't see this before Mockra, as soon as you said it, I was like, IDIOT!!! SO now, you pulled the third GB out in the open, and the very intelligent Emu, who knows how to really play the game, is trying to push the lynch trough. I was waiting for the lynch to get to L-2, but no, I think that is a bad idea. I think we lynch Emur today. Because I think you have played brilliantly, but thats whats wrong here. You question Mockra's reveal, but still push the Game lynch. Wrong, mate, you gots to go.

Remove Vote Vote Emur

Major WTF! You don't go reveal stuff like that, especially not when the person in question only has 2 votes! I don't know what game you're playing here, but it doesn't look like you're inno, because you wouldn't go reveal stuff like that if you are. And wtf do you mean by the GB isn't town' stuff?! And why on earth are you proposing we lynch Emur? You haven't exactly been clear about that. I have declared Gamelons scum also, so why not vote for me, or Mockra? You're not making any sort of sense.

Seems you've completely lost it. Now I have to think Emur is correct that you're symp. Not that I am surprised.

Although I find it amusing how you berate your fellow scum Mockra for not getting your plan, LOL!

Edit: switched 'to' with 'you'.

This post has been edited by Rashan: 06 December 2008 - 10:57 PM

[Kessobahn]

Rashan, on Dec 6 2008, 05:55 PM, said:

Major WTF! You don't go reveal stuff like that, especially not when the person in question only has 2 votes! I don't know what game you're playing here, but it doesn't look like you're inno, because you wouldn't go reveal stuff like that if you are. And wtf do you mean by the GB isn't town' stuff?! And why on earth are you proposing we lynch Emur? You haven't exactly been clear about that. I have declared Gamelons scum also, so why not vote for me, or Mockra? You're not making any sort of sense.

Seems you've completely lost it. Now I have to think Emur is correct that you're symp. Not that I am surprised.

Although I find it amusing how you berate your fellow scum Mockra for not getting your plan, LOL!

Edit: switched 'to' with 'you'.

You reveal that shit at 2 votes so it doesn't look like you are trying to be a symp to the person L-1. And You also do it to show that Emur is pushing for a players lynch, even though he says Mockra is lying. Why not go for Mockra? And I am asking for the Emur lynch, because he bullies and pushes like he has nothing to lose. That means he's not roled in my eyes. He didn't connect in thread with the fact that a roleless inno doesn't get a name or a movie role. Since he isn't worried about being nked for being loud and bullish, which a roled inno would be(WIFOM here), he must be a roled evil. Not that I expect yo uto believe me, but whatever.

[Kessobahn]

Emurlahn, on Dec 6 2008, 01:40 PM, said:

well, lynching Game will give you your alignment . I personally question the mechanics of your role, I think you are lying about it, and have tied my interpretation of it to Gamelon, who was indeed eager to seize the PI declaration and then again expanded on it by coding his alledged personality. My reasons to suspect him as scum doesn't have to be completely matched by other people's reasons, after all.

For you personally, if Gamelon does come up as an identifiable scumrole, it does prove that I'm wrong about your role.

So it doesn't look like I am strawmanning. He thinks I am the symp, but Mockra is lying. So he wants to lynch Game.

[Emurlahn]

Kessobahn, on Dec 6 2008, 10:44 PM, said:

well, he's not gonna reveal as a ghostbuster is he? Look, I am a Roleless inno, I got no name and no role, just a dude. If he was lying about being a roleless inno, he would be evil and you would have gotten a you are innocent pm. Since you didn't the only thing he could be is a fucking GB. That means you drew him into the open. Now I understand, if you are telling the truth, which I believe you are, why you would be confused and reveal(although you should have waited until you had a better idea of what you were doing, IMO). But I saw it, and with the level of intelligence that Emur is showing, I expect him to have thought the same thing. But he pushed hard for a Game lynch, even saying we lynch game first. SO no, he wanted Game lynched, to save the killers the trouble. Do I know for sure, no, but it makes sense. I just hope we have a healer, that can heal him tonight or he's toast, but better that than lynching a secon GB.

Hmm. Your two posts made me think and re-evaluate Gamelon a tiny bit, but then I re-examined what he did today.
Gamelon has been calling attention to himself throughout the day, and when he didn't, someone else did. Every single bit more or less revolved around him being inno.
1) the attention called to him by Mockra, and the way he dealt with it
2) the 'I'm such a small fry, I had to wiki to find that I did exist, and then I coded it!' approach
3) the 'I have a plan, you'll see when it bears fruit, I know who scum is!' thing he posted, but then he might have been intoxicated.

I would not play like that when two teammates are down, since it tends to inscribe a nice targeting circle on your forehead, and the last thing we town can have, is another dead ghostbuster because he made a target out of himself. Thyrllan & Liosan did enough of that already, thank you. I would however try to play like that after being PI'ed by a weird role and having downed 2 major enemies during day & night 1 were I scum; try and take over the game. The sole softening feature I can find for Gamelon not being scum but possibly a GB is him stepping late on the train of Liosan, in the last 5 hours with 7 votes on the guy, to try and distance.
Since I have you pegged as symp, and Gamelon as killer scum, trying to CI him this way is just another tactic from your side in my book to lift this case off him.

I may be fucking dull and stupid in continuiing to evaluate everything you say as coming from a symp trying to protect his master on whom some votes are now raining down (partly thanks to my efforts, which does fairly little for evenly judging your posts as, unfortunately for you and Game, I think I'm right and that means for me that you're lying )

[Kessobahn]

Emurlahn, on Dec 6 2008, 06:16 PM, said:

I may be fucking dull and stupid

You said it.

And if you still want to lynch him, fine, I am on board. I hope I'm wrong, but really I think I am right. He's what L-4?

Remove Vote Vote gamelon


Lets find out, if he's inno, we lynch Mockra then you.

Edit: If he's a GB, we leave Mockra and lynch you. Either way, if he's scum, ypu lynch me and we wont have to pu up with each other anymore.

This post has been edited by Kessobahn: 06 December 2008 - 11:27 PM

[Rashan]

Kessobahn, on Dec 7 2008, 12:10 AM, said:

You reveal that shit at 2 votes so it doesn't look like you are trying to be a symp to the person L-1. And You also do it to show that Emur is pushing for a players lynch, even though he says Mockra is lying. Why not go for Mockra? And I am asking for the Emur lynch, because he bullies and pushes like he has nothing to lose. That means he's not roled in my eyes. He didn't connect in thread with the fact that a roleless inno doesn't get a name or a movie role. Since he isn't worried about being nked for being loud and bullish, which a roled inno would be(WIFOM here), he must be a roled evil. Not that I expect yo uto believe me, but whatever.

So it's all about you, and not about your FUCKING TEAM?! WTF! And if you think Emur is not roled, then why do you want to lynch him? Then you say he's scum? On what premise? You're STILL not making any sense.



Edit: Kesso WTF?

This post has been edited by Rashan: 06 December 2008 - 11:29 PM

[Emurlahn]

Kessobahn, on Dec 7 2008, 12:10 AM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 6 2008, 05:55 PM, said:

Major WTF! You don't go reveal stuff like that, especially not when the person in question only has 2 votes! I don't know what game you're playing here, but it doesn't look like you're inno, because you wouldn't go reveal stuff like that if you are. And wtf do you mean by the GB isn't town' stuff?! And why on earth are you proposing we lynch Emur? You haven't exactly been clear about that. I have declared Gamelons scum also, so why not vote for me, or Mockra? You're not making any sort of sense.

Seems you've completely lost it. Now I have to think Emur is correct that you're symp. Not that I am surprised.

Although I find it amusing how you berate your fellow scum Mockra for not getting your plan, LOL!

Edit: switched 'to' with 'you'.

You reveal that shit at 2 votes so it doesn't look like you are trying to be a symp to the person L-1. And You also do it to show that Emur is pushing for a players lynch, even though he says Mockra is lying. Why not go for Mockra? And I am asking for the Emur lynch, because he bullies and pushes like he has nothing to lose. That means he's not roled in my eyes. He didn't connect in thread with the fact that a roleless inno doesn't get a name or a movie role. Since he isn't worried about being nked for being loud and bullish, which a roled inno would be(WIFOM here), he must be a roled evil. Not that I expect yo uto believe me, but whatever.

I'm not going for Mockra because I think he lies about the mechanics in the reveal. You consistently fail to mention that, even now when you summarize my actions in 3 lines.
I think Mockra's mechanic is hit evil = become evil, instead of hit evil = become inno.

So, I like to go to the base and take out the real, always evil, as that is likely to be a killer. If Game shows up as an inno role, well, then we now Slimer is currently evil if he didn't lie about his reveal.

Now, let's take your post apart:

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And I am asking for the Emur lynch, because he bullies and pushes like he has nothing to lose.

Oh, nice. First I post little and get flamed for it, now I bully and push... show me where. When I did it on you, it was by expressed invitation. Right now, I try to convince people and put a convincing case forward. You yourself said 'you were pushing buttons', that's bullying.

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That means he's not roled in my eyes.

Wait, I'm scum, but not roled? Weird, even symp is a role...

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He didn't connect in thread with the fact that a roleless inno doesn't get a name or a movie role.

Did it ever cross your mind that I'm not saying anything on this matter, whether confirm or deny, to protect roled players who do have a name on their role PM but don't know what is in a RI pm, name or not?

Sorry for saying, but what you just said there is the exact kind of info a RI should at all fucking times keep fucking unsaid for your fucking painting a fucking target on every fucking single person who reveals a fucking name from now on, you... * beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee* Censored * eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep *

And nice try fishing for roles there, by the way, symp.

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Since he isn't worried about being nked for being loud and bullish, which a roled inno would be(WIFOM here), he must be a roled evil.

Or maybe I just think that I can make a good contribution to the game by playing as I do... making cases, theorizing, criticizing is what every inno should do, a lack of info and info sharing means victory to the killers as the inno's don't talk, don't search for questions, don't find answers and thus never fucking find a killer.

[Kessobahn]

Rashan, on Dec 6 2008, 06:29 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 7 2008, 12:10 AM, said:

You reveal that shit at 2 votes so it doesn't look like you are trying to be a symp to the person L-1. And You also do it to show that Emur is pushing for a players lynch, even though he says Mockra is lying. Why not go for Mockra? And I am asking for the Emur lynch, because he bullies and pushes like he has nothing to lose. That means he's not roled in my eyes. He didn't connect in thread with the fact that a roleless inno doesn't get a name or a movie role. Since he isn't worried about being nked for being loud and bullish, which a roled inno would be(WIFOM here), he must be a roled evil. Not that I expect yo uto believe me, but whatever.

So it's all about you, and not about your FUCKING TEAM?! WTF! And if you think Emur is not roled, then why do you want to lynch him? Then you say he's scum? On what premise? You're STILL not making any sense.



Edit: Kesso WTF?

Read again more slowly this time Rash. I am unroled, I didnt get a name. Game did. And he claims roleless inno. I think he's a GB. Emur doesn't. Never occured to him, he was just, lynch lynch lynch!!! SO he could be a roled inno, you might say, thats why he didn't catch it. But if he was, He wouldn't be pushing so hard, and look, he's pushing HARD! HE's ok with a Mockra and Game lynch, he thinks I am the symp. So, he's not too worried as if he is a roled inno of getting NKed. That means to me anyway, he's not scared of the NK, like me, I don't care if I get NKed or not. I m however roleless, I would never play like this if I was roled, I would be useful to my team then. I then believe he is scum. Look at how clean he plays, look at how he leads the pack. Look how he disregaurds everything I say and says its because I am a symp. No one else is doing that. They may not like me, but they listen. He instead ignores and helps others to ignore what I am saying. I was wrong about Lio, and for that I am sorry, I may be wrong about Game, he might very well be scum, but the total bull-dozer like quality of Emur, tells me I may be right about him. Get out of sheep mode Rash and look at his posts. All of them, look closely. then come back and tell what you see. If you think I am wrong, we vote off Game, and maybe then you will start looking at him.

[Kessobahn]

Emurlahn, on Dec 6 2008, 06:37 PM, said:

yup, I am a killer

I knew it, see everyone its right there in his quote. I said roled(as in a roled inno). I am trying to keep you from railroading this game and everyone with it scum. I want to bring attention to something that you did. You said Mockra might hit an evil and become evil, you think Game is evil, that means you think Mockra is evil. But you still don't want to lynch Mockra.

[Mockra]

Kessobahn, on Dec 6 2008, 11:42 PM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 6 2008, 06:29 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 7 2008, 12:10 AM, said:

You reveal that shit at 2 votes so it doesn't look like you are trying to be a symp to the person L-1. And You also do it to show that Emur is pushing for a players lynch, even though he says Mockra is lying. Why not go for Mockra? And I am asking for the Emur lynch, because he bullies and pushes like he has nothing to lose. That means he's not roled in my eyes. He didn't connect in thread with the fact that a roleless inno doesn't get a name or a movie role. Since he isn't worried about being nked for being loud and bullish, which a roled inno would be(WIFOM here), he must be a roled evil. Not that I expect yo uto believe me, but whatever.

So it's all about you, and not about your FUCKING TEAM?! WTF! And if you think Emur is not roled, then why do you want to lynch him? Then you say he's scum? On what premise? You're STILL not making any sense.



Edit: Kesso WTF?

Read again more slowly this time Rash. I am unroled, I didnt get a name. Game did. And he claims roleless inno. I think he's a GB. Emur doesn't. Never occured to him, he was just, lynch lynch lynch!!! SO he could be a roled inno, you might say, thats why he didn't catch it. But if he was, He wouldn't be pushing so hard, and look, he's pushing HARD! HE's ok with a Mockra and Game lynch, he thinks I am the symp. So, he's not too worried as if he is a roled inno of getting NKed. That means to me anyway, he's not scared of the NK, like me, I don't care if I get NKed or not. I m however roleless, I would never play like this if I was roled, I would be useful to my team then. I then believe he is scum. Look at how clean he plays, look at how he leads the pack. Look how he disregaurds everything I say and says its because I am a symp. No one else is doing that. They may not like me, but they listen. He instead ignores and helps others to ignore what I am saying. I was wrong about Lio, and for that I am sorry, I may be wrong about Game, he might very well be scum, but the total bull-dozer like quality of Emur, tells me I may be right about him. Get out of sheep mode Rash and look at his posts. All of them, look closely. then come back and tell what you see. If you think I am wrong, we vote off Game, and maybe then you will start looking at him.

dude i am sorely tempted to vote you off for that post, you seem to be trying your best to out players. Some people could have roles that are activated by circumstance but begin roleless. i can think of a few off hand that tie in with the movie but i aint mentioning them. jeez, what the fuck? Can the three of your fucking idiots stop talking, i dont want to hear one more bloody word out of any of you, your are each and everyone of you screwing the innocent team over with your talk. And fo christ sake if you gnore this be more careful about what you are saying.

votes only for you lot, vote me if you have to but stop fucking screwing the innos over!!

[Emurlahn]

Kessobahn, on Dec 7 2008, 12:46 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Dec 6 2008, 06:37 PM, said:

yup, I am a killer

I knew it, see everyone its right there in his quote. I said roled(as in a roled inno). I am trying to keep you from railroading this game and everyone with it scum. I want to bring attention to something that you did. You said Mockra might hit an evil and become evil, you think Game is evil, that means you think Mockra is evil. But you still don't want to lynch Mockra.

Because, you idiot, if we lynch Game first, who is original scum, we off a killer, most likely.
That means that if there's a killer pair active (in case of a trio, then not yet), an inno guard suddenly can block a kill all by himself. Lynching Mockra first doesn't do that.

Now, the last hour I've been watching my screen in fucking disbelief at the kind of crap that's being poured out by Kessobahn. I'm mightily annoyed and I'm this close to pm-ing the mods I'm not getting back into the game because some asshat is sabotaging it.
Kesso, if you are inno: you made all the fucking mistakes an inno can make. You're damaging our side.

Look at what you said somewhere above: 'If I was roled, I would try to be useful to my team.'
So you only try to play well when you're roled? You're not interested in the team aspect? You much rather screw around because that's more fun to you? If that's all a yes, I have a serious problem with your fucking attitude. Ever thought about those of us who play the game to win, or to have fun ourselves in a challenge of our intellect and game skills? Ever thought that playing an RI migth improve your skills? Ever thought that being a roleless number in a game can be fucking useful to the team?

Fucking fucking bloody hell, what are you playing at? If you're an inno, you're a fucking disgrace to us and I'll likely lay a lot of the blame for a loss at your feet.

But you're the symp, so i can lean back. Well, I have to offer my congrats on one thing: you got under my skin. Be fucking proud of it.

[Mockra]

to make us feel better

Whos afraid of a ghost?

@emur you provoked him! just stop pushing and leave it, please. if you three have your way there will be no one left on the inno side not telegraphed with big neon fucking ligths over their head!!

[Emurlahn]

Mockra, on Dec 7 2008, 12:51 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 6 2008, 11:42 PM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 6 2008, 06:29 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 7 2008, 12:10 AM, said:

You reveal that shit at 2 votes so it doesn't look like you are trying to be a symp to the person L-1. And You also do it to show that Emur is pushing for a players lynch, even though he says Mockra is lying. Why not go for Mockra? And I am asking for the Emur lynch, because he bullies and pushes like he has nothing to lose. That means he's not roled in my eyes. He didn't connect in thread with the fact that a roleless inno doesn't get a name or a movie role. Since he isn't worried about being nked for being loud and bullish, which a roled inno would be(WIFOM here), he must be a roled evil. Not that I expect yo uto believe me, but whatever.

So it's all about you, and not about your FUCKING TEAM?! WTF! And if you think Emur is not roled, then why do you want to lynch him? Then you say he's scum? On what premise? You're STILL not making any sense.



Edit: Kesso WTF?

Read again more slowly this time Rash. I am unroled, I didnt get a name. Game did. And he claims roleless inno. I think he's a GB. Emur doesn't. Never occured to him, he was just, lynch lynch lynch!!! SO he could be a roled inno, you might say, thats why he didn't catch it. But if he was, He wouldn't be pushing so hard, and look, he's pushing HARD! HE's ok with a Mockra and Game lynch, he thinks I am the symp. So, he's not too worried as if he is a roled inno of getting NKed. That means to me anyway, he's not scared of the NK, like me, I don't care if I get NKed or not. I m however roleless, I would never play like this if I was roled, I would be useful to my team then. I then believe he is scum. Look at how clean he plays, look at how he leads the pack. Look how he disregaurds everything I say and says its because I am a symp. No one else is doing that. They may not like me, but they listen. He instead ignores and helps others to ignore what I am saying. I was wrong about Lio, and for that I am sorry, I may be wrong about Game, he might very well be scum, but the total bull-dozer like quality of Emur, tells me I may be right about him. Get out of sheep mode Rash and look at his posts. All of them, look closely. then come back and tell what you see. If you think I am wrong, we vote off Game, and maybe then you will start looking at him.

dude i am sorely tempted to vote you off for that post, you seem to be trying your best to out players. Some people could have roles that are activated by circumstance but begin roleless. i can think of a few off hand that tie in with the movie but i aint mentioning them. jeez, what the fuck? Can the three of your fucking idiots stop talking, i dont want to hear one more bloody word out of any of you, your are each and everyone of you screwing the innocent team over with your talk. And fo christ sake if you gnore this be more careful about what you are saying.

votes only for you lot, vote me if you have to but stop fucking screwing the innos over!!

Sorry, crosspost. But yes, i should have thought so for myself and acted upon it. Unfortunately, I'd much rather punch a bag for a couple of hours then go to sleep... I often have that when anger gets the best of me.

[Rashan]

Kessobahn, on Dec 7 2008, 12:42 AM, said:

Blah blah blah blah...

Except for you being exceptionally hilarious, you're a FUCKING nuisance! And as Emur said you're screwing us over nice and easy. [sarcasm]Is there anyone else of the good team you want to out, go ahead, I think you haven't outed everyone yet! [/sarcasm]


Edit: @ Mockra: stop pretending you're Kesso's parent or something, it's annoying. Also we can talk as much as we fucking like, and if you don't want to read it, just go lurk somewhere. I'm serious.

This post has been edited by Rashan: 07 December 2008 - 12:10 AM

[Kessobahn]

Em, believe me when I say this. I am inno. Now, lets get one thing straight, I couldn't give a rats ass how you perceive me. It doesn't matter. Game is L-1. Lynch him. I'm gone.

[Mockra]

this has to be the biggest clusterfuck game of all time, if the innos win this i will be amazed.

[Kessobahn]

I'm, emo. I don't punch a bag, I punch myself! I'm gone now.

[Mockra]

gamelon has three votes, what the hell are you on about?