[Tennes]

Ruse, on Dec 4 2008, 10:18 PM, said:

Mockra, on Dec 4 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

i have a few minutes to post and thought i might enlighten you all with my peculiar mechanic. i am slimer, a guard and a ghost. I am neither good nor evil, but will become a member of good if i guard a member of evil, and a member of evil if i guard someone good.

i guarded gamelon last night, and i am still nuetral, so he must be either in my boat or something else entirely. I do not know how much time i have over the next few days, and so am revealing out of a sense of spite as vengeance and yellow seem to pleased with themselves in telling me nothing and laughing that my role is basically crap. I asked if i would turn good if gamelon was a symp, and mentalist, bless his soul told me that symps are indeed evil.

Take out of this what you will, but know that if were a symp, i would make an effort to post much, much, much more.

This is an interesting reveal...I'm inclined to accept it for what it is at the moment, if only because it's such an unusual mechanic that it would be very hard to lie about. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that as two of our ghostbusters are already dead, he's more likely to hit a scum with his guard than anything else. As a result, he's probably going to be a little bit of a liability going forwards...

Explain why its a "liability" that he's most likely to hit scum, and therefore become inno, and give us the name of an evil?

[Shadow]

Yes but if he hits scum then he becomes good is what hes saying.

[Gamelon]

He's a possible nk distraction, actually. Hmmm.
But if he guards scum, he becomes essentially powerless, because we all know that if there are two or more killers, if one is guarded the kill still goes through.
If he's evil, he can block a GB, and I'm assuming their strength is in numbers.
Also, if he's evil, he could lie about the identity of a "killer" and his alignment, and get us to take out another GB.

[Tennes]

And whats the "liability" with that.
That means good gains a guard. Although im not sure what I am. Neutral I guess, but then, does that mean we're against the GBs aswell? If they're a seperate team. Im gonna guess that they're basically on our team, but more actively good, as its a deliberate act of evil to guard one, unlike a RI, therefore, RI wouldnt change his alignment? It also means he knows the name of scum(whoever he guarded).

[Gamelon]

Tennes, on Dec 4 2008, 10:26 PM, said:

And whats the "liability" with that.
That means good gains a guard. Although im not sure what I am. Neutral I guess, but then, does that mean we're against the GBs aswell? If they're a seperate team. Im gonna guess that they're basically on our team, but more actively good, as its a deliberate act of evil to guard one, unlike a RI, therefore, RI wouldnt change his alignment? It also means he knows the name of scum(whoever he guarded).

The liability is he can lie and we could be a GB down. However, we could solve that by not voting for whoever he says is whatever unless there is a case.
Well, I'm RI and it seems he didn't get changed, so aye, we're good but not actively so.

[Tennes]

Yes, but he still gets a find. I dont really think lynching him is a great idea, although it is true it could be hard to tell if he was evil.
Also, just because there are perhaps more than one killer now, doesnt mean that there always will be, so it probably wont always be powerless.

Anyhow, ive got to go do some stuff. Play nicely while im gone

[Tennes]

This is getting off topic however, before I go.
My point is, that Ruse says its a liability that he'll likely hit scum. Well, thats not. If hes most likely to hit scum, thats good, not a liability.
Yes, if he becomes evil, he could be, but if you've just stated hes most likely to hit evil anyhow?
The wording is odd.

[Ruse]

Tennes, on Dec 4 2008, 10:21 PM, said:

Ruse, on Dec 4 2008, 10:18 PM, said:

Mockra, on Dec 4 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

i have a few minutes to post and thought i might enlighten you all with my peculiar mechanic. i am slimer, a guard and a ghost. I am neither good nor evil, but will become a member of good if i guard a member of evil, and a member of evil if i guard someone good.

i guarded gamelon last night, and i am still nuetral, so he must be either in my boat or something else entirely. I do not know how much time i have over the next few days, and so am revealing out of a sense of spite as vengeance and yellow seem to pleased with themselves in telling me nothing and laughing that my role is basically crap. I asked if i would turn good if gamelon was a symp, and mentalist, bless his soul told me that symps are indeed evil.

Take out of this what you will, but know that if were a symp, i would make an effort to post much, much, much more.

This is an interesting reveal...I'm inclined to accept it for what it is at the moment, if only because it's such an unusual mechanic that it would be very hard to lie about. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that as two of our ghostbusters are already dead, he's more likely to hit a scum with his guard than anything else. As a result, he's probably going to be a little bit of a liability going forwards...

Explain why its a "liability" that he's most likely to hit scum, and therefore become inno, and give us the name of an evil?

Oh sorry, I misread his post. Thought it said he would become evil if he guarded evil. My bad.

[Mockra]

Rashan, on Dec 4 2008, 09:54 PM, said:

Mockra is a possible evil guard. Lynch him fast. He's a possible liability to the team. If the evil team gets a guard, we're screwed.


Gotta go, talk to you all later.

Something tells me your like this when it comes to sex, roll on roll off no thought or consideration for the game.

Ruse, on Dec 4 2008, 10:18 PM, said:

Mockra, on Dec 4 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

i have a few minutes to post and thought i might enlighten you all with my peculiar mechanic. i am slimer, a guard and a ghost. I am neither good nor evil, but will become a member of good if i guard a member of evil, and a member of evil if i guard someone good.

i guarded gamelon last night, and i am still nuetral, so he must be either in my boat or something else entirely. I do not know how much time i have over the next few days, and so am revealing out of a sense of spite as vengeance and yellow seem to pleased with themselves in telling me nothing and laughing that my role is basically crap. I asked if i would turn good if gamelon was a symp, and mentalist, bless his soul told me that symps are indeed evil.

Take out of this what you will, but know that if were a symp, i would make an effort to post much, much, much more.

This is an interesting reveal...I'm inclined to accept it for what it is at the moment, if only because it's such an unusual mechanic that it would be very hard to lie about. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that as two of our ghostbusters are already dead, he's more likely to hit a scum with his guard than anything else. As a result, he's probably going to be a little bit of a liability going forwards...

I think you have misread my role, i become the opposite of what i guard, therefore if i guard evil tonight, tomorrow i am good. If i guard good tonight i am evil tomorrow. The fact that i didnt receive anything though, i assumed meant i remained neutral, but a finder guard is a very strong role, so it may be that i dont get my alignment until i die. Therefore with my death you get two cf's while i reveal who i intend to guard even if i die at night. the fact that you have to believe me is rto me irrelevant, as if i receive no word i am playing for myself until the end anyway and dont care either way. As i see it, i only become a risk toward the end because if the evil team belive they can achieve majority, they need only come forward and tell me who they are and if i guard someone else the numbers will push them over the edge.

vote rashan

i am not even going to justify you with a reason, you are clearly a liability because you dont even think before you talk nonsense, you just post it without any consideration.

Whichever way it goes today i will win in the end. If i come back evil, then the evil know gamelon isnt one of them. If i come back inno, the inno's know that gamelon is evil. If people dont think gamelon is a good target, we can lynch our highest supicion today and i will target the next person on the list. If evil or a vig kill me, i assume i will have that alignment as guard generally goes first. Or you can lynch me the next day as a finder result.

@rashan - thats called using your brain, i don't expect you to understand that post, but i havent the time to draw you any nice pictures either.

[Gamelon]

Mockra, on Dec 4 2008, 10:34 PM, said:

Rashan, on Dec 4 2008, 09:54 PM, said:

Mockra is a possible evil guard. Lynch him fast. He's a possible liability to the team. If the evil team gets a guard, we're screwed.


Gotta go, talk to you all later.

Something tells me your like this when it comes to sex, roll on roll off no thought or consideration for the game.

Ruse, on Dec 4 2008, 10:18 PM, said:

Mockra, on Dec 4 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

i have a few minutes to post and thought i might enlighten you all with my peculiar mechanic. i am slimer, a guard and a ghost. I am neither good nor evil, but will become a member of good if i guard a member of evil, and a member of evil if i guard someone good.

i guarded gamelon last night, and i am still nuetral, so he must be either in my boat or something else entirely. I do not know how much time i have over the next few days, and so am revealing out of a sense of spite as vengeance and yellow seem to pleased with themselves in telling me nothing and laughing that my role is basically crap. I asked if i would turn good if gamelon was a symp, and mentalist, bless his soul told me that symps are indeed evil.

Take out of this what you will, but know that if were a symp, i would make an effort to post much, much, much more.

This is an interesting reveal...I'm inclined to accept it for what it is at the moment, if only because it's such an unusual mechanic that it would be very hard to lie about. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that as two of our ghostbusters are already dead, he's more likely to hit a scum with his guard than anything else. As a result, he's probably going to be a little bit of a liability going forwards...

I think you have misread my role, i become the opposite of what i guard, therefore if i guard evil tonight, tomorrow i am good. If i guard good tonight i am evil tomorrow. The fact that i didnt receive anything though, i assumed meant i remained neutral, but a finder guard is a very strong role, so it may be that i dont get my alignment until i die. Therefore with my death you get two cf's while i reveal who i intend to guard even if i die at night. the fact that you have to believe me is rto me irrelevant, as if i receive no word i am playing for myself until the end anyway and dont care either way. As i see it, i only become a risk toward the end because if the evil team belive they can achieve majority, they need only come forward and tell me who they are and if i guard someone else the numbers will push them over the edge.

vote rashan

i am not even going to justify you with a reason, you are clearly a liability because you dont even think before you talk nonsense, you just post it without any consideration.

Whichever way it goes today i will win in the end. If i come back evil, then the evil know gamelon isnt one of them. If i come back inno, the inno's know that gamelon is evil. If people dont think gamelon is a good target, we can lynch our highest supicion today and i will target the next person on the list. If evil or a vig kill me, i assume i will have that alignment as guard generally goes first. Or you can lynch me the next day as a finder result.

@rashan - thats called using your brain, i don't expect you to understand that post, but i havent the time to draw you any nice pictures either.

One problem. We don't get a faction CF, just a role one. So if you got no role PM, I think you can assume you are still neutral.

[Mockra]

Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 10:29 PM, said:

Tennes, on Dec 4 2008, 10:26 PM, said:

And whats the "liability" with that.
That means good gains a guard. Although im not sure what I am. Neutral I guess, but then, does that mean we're against the GBs aswell? If they're a seperate team. Im gonna guess that they're basically on our team, but more actively good, as its a deliberate act of evil to guard one, unlike a RI, therefore, RI wouldnt change his alignment? It also means he knows the name of scum(whoever he guarded).

The liability is he can lie and we could be a GB down. However, we could solve that by not voting for whoever he says is whatever unless there is a case.
Well, I'm RI and it seems he didn't get changed, so aye, we're good but not actively so.

sorry, gamelon that may be true and it may not. After my reveal earlier i received a pm saying somehting along the lines of, "finder guard, like fuck" obviously quoting isnt allowed, so thats my ethnic twist on yellow's delightful tone...

Yes i said delightful, and i was being sarcastic.

2 cf's for the price of one and one person wont be dead, so there is a major advantage to removing me from play.

[Gamelon]

Read my above post, Mockra. This lynching idea of yours give us nothing. We only have a role CF. Check the deaths and see. We only know they are good cus of their obvious roles.

[Mockra]

So what you are telling me is that in this game, i wont ever know which team i am on? Actually thats not true, i could try and lynch you, then i can tell by your name whether i am good or bad

[Mockra]

Well i am gone, i will try to be on tomorrow, but all you will get from my death is that i am slimer so knock yourselves out.

[Gamelon]

You could, but the fact is I don't even know if my role appears in the movie, I think they may have made up the RI roles. There's too many of us.
But I assume were you to join a team, PS would pm you saying so.

[Fener]

wow, tough decisions on whether to leave Mockra alive. He could be a valuable source of info and helpful if he tags evil... or a major source of disinformation if he manages to tag one of the 2-3 remaining goods. Hard telling. With only 2-3 roled left (admittedly that number is a guesstimate) We might want to let him have a night and see what happens. Not sure why you would reveal though... now you are a prime lynch and NK target

[Fener]

Mockra I think you are in a precarious position... if RI's are neutral like you said, and Gamelon is RI... and you die today or tonight, I would guess you get no win condition. and therefore can't win...kinda like the flying dude in the heros game.

ok real reveal time!!

I am MOHINDER!!!

mwahahahahahaa!!

[Gamelon]

Fener, on Dec 4 2008, 10:46 PM, said:

wow, tough decisions on whether to leave Mockra alive. He could be a valuable source of info and helpful if he tags evil... or a major source of disinformation if he manages to tag one of the 2-3 remaining goods. Hard telling. With only 2-3 roled left (admittedly that number is a guesstimate) We might want to let him have a night and see what happens. Not sure why you would reveal though... now you are a prime lynch and NK target

Well, first of all, he's just cleared me as an RI, which is good. If they kill me tonight, which they might as they now know I am inno, it's no skin off our backs.
Secondly, we can remove him from the ScumRadar™ for today at least.
Thirdly, now we have an idea of the roles and aren't shooting blind.
Fourthly, he's slimer for gods sake. A powerful role, but its got a bad twist to it, which makes him essentially either scum or inno off on his own, almost a seperate team. At least now he can draw an nk from getting the innos or a lynch from hitting the scum. Its actually quite like Serc's reveal in Heroes.

[Emurlahn]

Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 11:43 PM, said:

You could, but the fact is I don't even know if my role appears in the movie, I think they may have made up the RI roles. There's too many of us.
But I assume were you to join a team, PS would pm you saying so.

If he weren't mailed, he'd definately be a liability.
After all, he'd boost the victory limit for scum by 1. Say they have 3 now, and win at 6 players left (assuming none of them die, sadly).
With him, it would mean they'd win at 8 left.

Now assume there are 4 scum to start with... and I'm scared out of my mind.

But then again, I'm close to being drunk, so don't mind me until I sober up.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 04 December 2008 - 10:57 PM

[Gamelon]

Well, 1) we can always lynch him, its not like he can hide,
2) We actually seem to be getting somewhere in this game. I think we will get scum today, if we are extra vigilante, or else tomorrow.