[Kessobahn]

Kaschan, on Dec 4 2008, 08:15 AM, said:

"Custom made" as in ... uh, he made it himself. He tied his own noose and put it around his own neck. We don't get that very often.

I mean, hell, why not follow through? If it turns out HP was just putting on a show, we don't even have drunken ramblings to go on at the moment.

As to the drunken ramblings, is WIFOM at best. Maybe, maybe not.

[Kessobahn]

Liosan won't be on until after time runs out. his was the time he was sleeping.

Vote Liosan

[Emurlahn]

Kaschan, on Dec 4 2008, 02:15 PM, said:

D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 05:11 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Dec 4 2008, 03:09 PM, said:

Well, I'll be asleep for most of those five (if I can manage to get back to sleep, that is), I was just hoping for some sort of resolution while I was around. Certainly no harm in not having a Day 1 lynch, but the target in this case seems so ... custom made.

What do you mean?

"Custom made" as in ... uh, he made it himself. He tied his own noose and put it around his own neck. We don't get that very often.

I mean, hell, why not follow through? If it turns out HP was just putting on a show, we don't even have drunken ramblings to go on at the moment.

The custom made is exactly why I haven't voted for him yet. Putting a vote on yourself is generally seen as desperate and done when your countercase hasn't been heard and when you are out of options, the ultimate "go ahead you fucks, I'm inno, I'm expendable, and therefore not afraid to die." Putting the first vote on yourself at a case that's weaker than Steven Hawking's legs is unprecedented and smells badly of a ploy.

[Ruse]

I'm not sure I want to hop on the train because I am not, at this stage, convinced of Liosan's guilt. I'm here for a little while, in which case I'll have a look through and see if I can find anyone else worth making a case on. Basically, I'm afraid of what happened in the last game, where everyone focused on a few players and suddenly it was get it right or scum win. So I want to at least try and rake up some other stuff, even if it's probably pushing against an inevitable tide at this point.

[Path-Shaper]

Day 1, about 4 h 20 m left

17 of you are still alive (Thyrllan, Rashan, Ruse, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Liosan, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn, Hood's Path)

9 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for Ruse: Thyrllan
7 votes for Liosan: Liosan, Kaschan, Driss, Mockra, Hood's Path, Omtose, Kessobahn

9 people have not voted: Rashan, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah, Ruse, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Korlat

[Kessobahn]

Jesters can't self vote. So if we vote to lynch and keep him there, his vote wouldn't count if he was a jester, and so he wouldn't die. That is the only role i know of where a player would want to get lynched. Unless he is lynch-proof and gains an ability when lynched. Those are the only scenarios I can imagine.

[D'riss]

Even a lynch-proof activity as an inno is not a reason to self-vote. Making your team waste a lynch for no good reason (besides an ego the size of China) is shit strategy

[Kessobahn]

Ruse, on Dec 4 2008, 08:43 AM, said:

I'm not sure I want to hop on the train because I am not, at this stage, convinced of Liosan's guilt. I'm here for a little while, in which case I'll have a look through and see if I can find anyone else worth making a case on. Basically, I'm afraid of what happened in the last game, where everyone focused on a few players and suddenly it was get it right or scum win. So I want to at least try and rake up some other stuff, even if it's probably pushing against an inevitable tide at this point.

There is currently a case on Gamelon, that might be interesting to delve into. Also, I am a prime candidate.

[Omtose]

Ruse, on Dec 4 2008, 08:43 AM, said:

I'm not sure I want to hop on the train because I am not, at this stage, convinced of Liosan's guilt. I'm here for a little while, in which case I'll have a look through and see if I can find anyone else worth making a case on. Basically, I'm afraid of what happened in the last game, where everyone focused on a few players and suddenly it was get it right or scum win. So I want to at least try and rake up some other stuff, even if it's probably pushing against an inevitable tide at this point.

This was pretty much my thinking aswell.
But i came to the realization that liosan is our only realistic option at a lynch today.

[Omtose]

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 08:45 AM, said:

Jesters can't self vote. So if we vote to lynch and keep him there, his vote wouldn't count if he was a jester, and so he wouldn't die. That is the only role i know of where a player would want to get lynched. Unless he is lynch-proof and gains an ability when lynched. Those are the only scenarios I can imagine.

I believe there would be a rule that no one can self vote if there was a jester.

[Kessobahn]

D'riss, on Dec 4 2008, 08:47 AM, said:

Even a lynch-proof activity as an inno is not a reason to self-vote. Making your team waste a lynch for no good reason (besides an ego the size of China) is shit strategy

But his"I dare you" point as a self vote, might mean he has something to gain. Like I said maybe an ability, maybe everyone on his train dies. Yellow is pretty good at making these things a true Mind-fuck. He even said it would be higher, but its not a cult game so 6 was as high as it could get.

[Gamelon]

Korlat, on Dec 4 2008, 01:00 PM, said:

First off for obvious reasons,
Remove vote

Omtose, on Dec 4 2008, 11:04 AM, said:

This post is EXACTLY what im talking about.
All korlat is doing is repeating all the stupid/incriminating things people have said, and using all then same responses guys have ALREADY said about these stupid/incriminating things.
He is just regurjitating what we already know back to us.
Classic scum behavior.


remove vote
Vote Korlat


edited- for clarity, stupid sentence is stupid

So its not possible that I do in fact have a similar PoV to a few others? That I must therefore be scum?
So unless I have something groundbreakingly amazing to say, I must just be quiet and lurk right? That is what you want, no?

Ain't it interesting that if you look back over the last game, this is exactly what Silencer said when he voted for Rashan last game. In the same alt. And it turned out Silencer was scum.

Just an observation.

But there is only going to be one possible lynch, so while I am not convinced of Liosan being FM...
Vote Liosan
Has to be done.

[Ruse]

Back in an hour or so, when hopefully I'll be able to post something with a little more substance.

[Kessobahn]

Omtose, on Dec 4 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 08:45 AM, said:

Jesters can't self vote. So if we vote to lynch and keep him there, his vote wouldn't count if he was a jester, and so he wouldn't die. That is the only role i know of where a player would want to get lynched. Unless he is lynch-proof and gains an ability when lynched. Those are the only scenarios I can imagine.

I believe there would be a rule that no one can self vote if there was a jester.

Why? Really. I don't understand the reasoning here. Care to explain?

[Kessobahn]

Hi dibs!

[Gamelon]

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 01:52 PM, said:

Omtose, on Dec 4 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 08:45 AM, said:

Jesters can't self vote. So if we vote to lynch and keep him there, his vote wouldn't count if he was a jester, and so he wouldn't die. That is the only role i know of where a player would want to get lynched. Unless he is lynch-proof and gains an ability when lynched. Those are the only scenarios I can imagine.

I believe there would be a rule that no one can self vote if there was a jester.

Why? Really. I don't understand the reasoning here. Care to explain?

It would be too easy to place a "scummy defensive vote" on oneself, and gather attention day one. As Liosan has done. Jesters shouldn't get a walk in the ranch.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 04 December 2008 - 01:54 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Day 1, about 4 h 5 m left

17 of you are still alive (Thyrllan, Rashan, Ruse, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Liosan, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah, Mockra, Omtose, Emurlahn, Hood's Path)

9 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for Ruse: Thyrllan
8 votes for Liosan: Liosan, Kaschan, Driss, Mockra, Hood's Path, Omtose, Kessobahn, Gamelon

8 people have not voted: Rashan, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah, Ruse, Emurlahn, Korlat

[Kessobahn]

Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 08:54 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 01:52 PM, said:

Omtose, on Dec 4 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 08:45 AM, said:

Jesters can't self vote. So if we vote to lynch and keep him there, his vote wouldn't count if he was a jester, and so he wouldn't die. That is the only role i know of where a player would want to get lynched. Unless he is lynch-proof and gains an ability when lynched. Those are the only scenarios I can imagine.

I believe there would be a rule that no one can self vote if there was a jester.

Why? Really. I don't understand the reasoning here. Care to explain?

It would be too easy to place a "scummy defensive vote" on oneself, and gather attention day one. As Liosan has done. Jesters shouldn't get a walk in the ranch.

Right, but that vote wouldn't count, maybe Lio doesn't know that, and thats why he left it? Just speculating, I honestly have no idea. But he did leave it on. even an inno would have pulled it. Especially after it was explained by Ruse maybe? That it was a scummy move. But he left it. really weird. I dunno.

[Omtose]

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 08:52 AM, said:

Omtose, on Dec 4 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 08:45 AM, said:

Jesters can't self vote. So if we vote to lynch and keep him there, his vote wouldn't count if he was a jester, and so he wouldn't die. That is the only role i know of where a player would want to get lynched. Unless he is lynch-proof and gains an ability when lynched. Those are the only scenarios I can imagine.

I believe there would be a rule that no one can self vote if there was a jester.

Why? Really. I don't understand the reasoning here. Care to explain?

Last time we had one they forgot to put the no self vote rule in.
Stands to reason they wouldnt forget again...or would they?

The reason is that you cant apply a rule to only one player. And its not fair for the jester to be able to vote for himself.
So they just make a rule that no one is allowed to self vote...understand?

[Gamelon]

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 01:57 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Dec 4 2008, 08:54 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 01:52 PM, said:

Omtose, on Dec 4 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Dec 4 2008, 08:45 AM, said:

Jesters can't self vote. So if we vote to lynch and keep him there, his vote wouldn't count if he was a jester, and so he wouldn't die. That is the only role i know of where a player would want to get lynched. Unless he is lynch-proof and gains an ability when lynched. Those are the only scenarios I can imagine.

I believe there would be a rule that no one can self vote if there was a jester.

Why? Really. I don't understand the reasoning here. Care to explain?

It would be too easy to place a "scummy defensive vote" on oneself, and gather attention day one. As Liosan has done. Jesters shouldn't get a walk in the ranch.

Right, but that vote wouldn't count, maybe Lio doesn't know that, and thats why he left it? Just speculating, I honestly have no idea. But he did leave it on. even an inno would have pulled it. Especially after it was explained by Ruse maybe? That it was a scummy move. But he left it. really weird. I dunno.

He probably smelled a lynch, and stopped caring.
Its my best shot.
I ain't got a scum smell off him, more a smell of just general aggravation from the way the game is going. Might be he has a good role and thinks he won't even get to use it, I ain't got no idea.
I will grant you that it's a little bit unusual. Maybe he forgot, but I ain't Liosan, so I really couldn't tell you.
Worth looking at, though. Maybe with the pressure on him now he'll actually open his mouth and talk some.