[detritus]

Name a series you think sucks, and explain either why you think people read it, or what your beef is with it.

I personaly dont get the Sword of Truth series. I think Goodkinds writing is dreck. I really cant think of one redeeming thing about it.

By the way I read the first book and half of the second (I'm willing to give a series a chance) before I gave up.

[frookenhauer]

I'm a lot dumber than you and I managed to get halfway through book four or five before succumbing to the terror known as eyes bleeding uncontrollably.

[teholbeddict]

I'm going to have to go with David Edding's Tamuli series, absolutely the worst, most irritating, pointless crap ever to be committed to paper. A close second would be David Bilsborough Annals of Lindormyn, the series isn't finished yet but it's so bad I'm willing to call it early.

[Dr Trouble]

Worst series ever? Kate Elliots abortion that is the Crown of Stars series. What a bunch of cuntish dribble.

I know a lot of people who enjoy it, but I just don't see the appeal. I admit that the world, and the male character, Aerith or something? Are worth atleast the paper. But everything else is just shit.

I'm at work, when I get back I'll rant about it, if you like.

[detritus]

Trouble, on Nov 25 2008, 05:29 AM, said:

Worst series ever? Kate Elliots abortion that is the Crown of Stars series. What a bunch of cuntish dribble.

I know a lot of people who enjoy it, but I just don't see the appeal. I admit that the world, and the male character, Aerith or something? Are worth atleast the paper. But everything else is just shit.

I'm at work, when I get back I'll rant about it, if you like.

I would like

[detritus]

teholbeddict, on Nov 25 2008, 02:17 AM, said:

I'm going to have to go with David Edding's Tamuli series, absolutely the worst, most irritating, pointless crap ever to be committed to paper. A close second would be David Bilsborough Annals of Lindormyn, the series isn't finished yet but it's so bad I'm willing to call it early.

What about his Belgariad series. Its one I've pondered picking up before. (I've not read any of Eddings stuff.

[Hinter]

Sarah Douglass' Axis trilogy. Fantasy fiction for 5 year olds. Utterley without merit. Read one and a half books before deciding I'd rather be cleaning the bathroom.

[Salt-Man Z]

mandog, on Nov 24 2008, 11:12 PM, said:

What about his Belgariad series. Its one I've pondered picking up before. (I've not read any of Eddings stuff.

The Belgariad is on my personal list of Series That Suck. People who like it either read it as a kid and remember it nostalgically, or have never read anything better. Mandog, since you've read Erikson already, I wouldn't even consider bothering with Eddings. It's like playing with Legos and then going back to Duplos (or Quattros, for that matter.)

[detritus]

Salt-Man Z, on Nov 25 2008, 06:01 PM, said:

mandog, on Nov 24 2008, 11:12 PM, said:

What about his Belgariad series. Its one I've pondered picking up before. (I've not read any of Eddings stuff.

The Belgariad is on my personal list of Series That Suck. People who like it either read it as a kid and remember it nostalgically, or have never read anything better. Mandog, since you've read Erikson already, I wouldn't even consider bothering with Eddings. It's like playing with Legos and then going back to Duplos (or Quattros, for that matter.)

Well to be honest I have yet to start SE. I do have the first book, but I still have to finish book 3 of Joe Abercrombies series. I've been busy so I havent been able to get to those last 50 pages.

Also great analogy. I always kinda figured as much about that series. I am a bit afraid if I went back and read the Dragonlance trilogy I loves so as a kid that it would be a similar situation, and I would be seriously dissapointed.

[Chance]

Hinter, on Nov 25 2008, 10:12 AM, said:

Sarah Douglass' Axis trilogy. Fantasy fiction for 5 year olds. Utterley without merit. Read one and a half books before deciding I'd rather be cleaning the bathroom.

While horrendously simple and predictable I could get through that...and most of the above suggestions, well not goodkind but hey there are limits...

My pet hate is actually well written crap which could have been so good, so I nominate the Prince of Nothing...damn it sucks when something hyped beyond belife and initially great turns horse manure.

I've explained earlier why it sucks...short version philosophy takes over and gets more important then telling a story a story that could have been really good

People read the Prince of Nothing for the same reason people read posing high strung nonsens of any genre, it flatters their ego to say they got it Well a crap story is just that a crap story nothing more nothing less however you turn it...

/Chance...perhaps being to hard on the poor thing but it is the one trilogy ever I haven't finished...after reading two full books...

This post has been edited by Chance: 25 November 2008 - 05:41 PM

[Abyss]

mandog, on Nov 25 2008, 12:11 PM, said:

Salt-Man Z, on Nov 25 2008, 06:01 PM, said:

mandog, on Nov 24 2008, 11:12 PM, said:

What about his Belgariad series. ...

...Mandog, since you've read Erikson already, I wouldn't even consider bothering with Eddings. It's like playing with Legos and then going back to Duplos (or Quattros, for that matter.)

Well to be honest I have yet to start SE. I do have the first book, but I still have to finish book 3 of Joe Abercrombies series. I've been busy so I havent been able to get to those last 50 pages.

Also great analogy. I always kinda figured as much about that series. I am a bit afraid if I went back and read the Dragonlance trilogy I loves so as a kid that it would be a similar situation, and I would be seriously dissapointed.

That's probably an accurate take. The Belgariad is great young reader lit, and you might find some nostaligc fun in it (it does have some GREAT characters), but it's a real step down in sophistication when you're reading Abercrombie, SE, etc.

Instead, stop cheating yourself and start SE immediately!!!

Chance, on Nov 25 2008, 12:36 PM, said:

... I nominate the Prince of Nothing...damn it sucks when something hyped beyond belife and initially great turns horse manure.

I've explained earlier why it sucks...short version philosophy takes over and gets more important then telling a story a story that could have been really good

People read the Prince of Nothing for the same reason people read posing high strung nonsens of any genre, it flatters their ego to say they got it Well a crap story is just that a crap story nothing more nothing less however you turn it......

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but some readers do enjoy when the author plays with 'deeper' concepts in between the stabby 'sploddy.



As for crap...

I found Van Lustbaader's RING OF SOMETHING TRANSGENDERED DRAGONS was awful and tossed.
I waited three books for THE NEANDERTHAL PARRALAX to impress me but it never did.

And Goodkind makes my eyes bleed and i read thru four of them just to be sure.


- Abyss, ...ruined a couch that way...

[caladanbrood]

Robin Hobb's Assassin's Blah Blah Blah.

It's like death by mulched forest.

[LadyMTL]

Well, there are only 2 that qualify for my "Worst of" list:

- Sword of Truth series. I found it started off really well but then veered sharply into the realm of "oh my god, I'd rather be watching Dr. Phil! And I HATE Dr. Phil" territory.

- Russell Kirkpatrick's trilogy...I forget the name, but the first book was called Across the Face of the World. The first book was literally a bunch of people walking around a lot. No tension, no memorable characters...blah. Mind you, he was a geographer first, so maybe that explains it?

As for the Prince of Nothing, I actually did like it. The philosophical discussions did get on my nerves now and then but overall it was a nice change.

[The Tyrant Lizard]

Chance, on Nov 25 2008, 05:36 PM, said:

Hinter, on Nov 25 2008, 10:12 AM, said:

Sarah Douglass' Axis trilogy. Fantasy fiction for 5 year olds. Utterley without merit. Read one and a half books before deciding I'd rather be cleaning the bathroom.

While horrendously simple and predictable I could get through that...and most of the above suggestions, well not goodkind but hey there are limits...

My pet hate is actually well written crap which could have been so good, so I nominate the Prince of Nothing...damn it sucks when something hyped beyond belife and initially great turns horse manure.

I've explained earlier why it sucks...short version philosophy takes over and gets more important then telling a story a story that could have been really good

People read the Prince of Nothing for the same reason people read posing high strung nonsens of any genre, it flatters their ego to say they got it Well a crap story is just that a crap story nothing more nothing less however you turn it...

/Chance...perhaps being to hard on the poor thing but it is the one trilogy ever I haven't finished...after reading two full books...

I cannot stand aside and listen to PoN be derided. I know the philosophy was brow beating from thime to time, but come on. I stop short of saying 'you didnt like it beause you didnt understand it' because I fucking hate patronising people who say that. So what I will say is this, 'you probably didnt understand it, so that's why you didnt like it.'

Robert Holdstock mythago wood = shite.
Naomi Novak trimeraire = shiter
James Barclay ascendants of estoria = shitest

in my opinion but maybe I just didnt understand them

[Fifty]

No-one mentioned Wheel of Time? God, I nearly died after the first 1/3 of a book.

[Bent]

I have 2 and I might recieve a blasting for

1. Tad Williams - BOOOOOOOOOOO
2. The Black Company books - I just can't read books written in the first person

[Salt-Man Z]

Bent, on Nov 25 2008, 02:00 PM, said:

2. The Black Company books - I just can't read books written in the first person

Consider yourself blasted.

[teholbeddict]

Fifty, on Nov 25 2008, 01:30 PM, said:

No-one mentioned Wheel of Time? God, I nearly died after the first 1/3 of a book.

The thing for me about WoT is that it started off well, which makes me reluctant to damn it completely. I will agree though that several books in the series were crap and should never have been written.

[caladanbrood]

Bent, on Nov 25 2008, 08:00 PM, said:

1. Tad Williams - BOOOOOOOOOOO

Otherland or whatever the fantasy one was called?

[detritus]

teholbeddict, on Nov 25 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

Fifty, on Nov 25 2008, 01:30 PM, said:

No-one mentioned Wheel of Time? God, I nearly died after the first 1/3 of a book.

The thing for me about WoT is that it started off well, which makes me reluctant to damn it completely. I will agree though that several books in the series were crap and should never have been written.

I did like the first WoT book found the second to be good, and stopped on three when I could feel the wheel spinning and not going anywhere, and all I've read says that going nowhere feeling gets worse and worse with each book.