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Hannan Mosag - badly failed good guy?

#21 User is offline   Jude 

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:51 AM

 Abyss, on Nov 18 2008, 07:17 PM, said:

 caladanbrood, on Nov 18 2008, 06:09 PM, said:

...Withal made the sword very specifically for Rhulad, it was put where it was by the CG for a very specific reason. Not the kind of place anyone would wander out and find it, out in the middle of nowhere especially defended by all those Jheck. The Edur only knew where to find it from Mosag's dream.


yes and no - it's never expressedly stated that RHULAD was to find it, altho the CG clearly manipulated events so that one way or the other, one of the Edur other than Mosag grabbed it. It's not hard to look at the events pre-Rhulad grabbing it and dying and wonder if the CG was at work, ie: Rhulad falling asleep on watch. But there were two other young Edur (forgot names) there too. I suspect the CG would have had a harder time if Trull, Fear or Bhinadas had grabbed it.


Midik and Theradas Bunn were the other two. Theradas was actually an awesome character to watch develop. He started as a noble tribesman helping on a quest and turned out as Rhulad's nastiest inner circle guy. He was the one that started the beating of Tehol and you got the impression that he was someone who loved to abuse his power as a soldier over people weaker than himself.

Even if the sword wasn't meant for Rhulad, it was definitely meant for the Edur and not just placed there by chance.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 04:58 PM

 Abyss, on Nov 18 2008, 07:17 PM, said:

I agree that is possible, but it may also be a ref to the fact that the Edur were using, in some respect, a chunk of Kurald Galain, and not their own shattered elder warren. The Andii 'shadow wraith' souls were an example of this.


The whole Edur magic is indeed a bit weird. As far as the wriaths go, it is only the ones killed by the Edur in the betrayal that are bound as shadow wraiths. Others, like Sandalath, who were killed by K'Chain were stuck in those big black rocks containing tunnel-of-darkness warrens. Weird, but perhaps the Edur did something at the betrayal to make this happen, rather than it being a matter of the modern Edur using KG? After all, the Edur do seem to have a theme of killing people and then making them useful (Silanda, etc).

When Rhulad gets the sword, he suddenly has complete control over all the shadow wraiths, anywhere, unlike how before the wraiths had to be in shadow, nearby and there were limits to how much control you could exert on how many. Binadas' tricks are good examples. Anyway, I was under the impression that Rhulad's dominance of the wraiths came from the shards of Silchas Ruin's broken weapons being forged into the sword, as per peoples' comments on the sword and the ghost of Silchas asking aloud to Trull why someone was collecting the fragments of something broken.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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