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#1981 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:30 PM

remove vote

just in case... I will be here another hour

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:33 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 22 2008, 12:26 AM, said:

Major Miscomunication between me an PS... Galain should have got that last night immunity.


bummer.. hm.. well, I spose Ruse is the evil that we know. I just don't like letting him live. IT does not appeal to me

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:39 PM

I'm back! And Liosan, in theory we shouldn't let you live for what Grief did in that alt. :(

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:42 PM

I suppose I should compound on what Ive been saying. Ive been spamming recently, sorry guys, but exciting RL is exciting, as was getting my alt back. I have explained the mechanics of possession. Anyone want to ask anything more?

Edit: that is, the mechanics as I understand them.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 21 November 2008 - 10:46 PM


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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:46 PM

View PostRuse, on Nov 21 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

I suppose I should compound on what Ive been saying. Ive been spamming recently, sorry guys, but exciting RL is exciting, as was getting my alt back. I have explained the mechanics of possession. Anyone want to ask anything more?



"What in God's name are you Blathering about!!!"

virtual rep if you know that movie quote.

Stop it evil Ruse. You make me miss nice Ruse...oh the fun times we had, almost lynch, becoming friends, the development of an Alt. relationship..... um ok, that sounds bad :(

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:52 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 22 2008, 12:46 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Nov 21 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

I suppose I should compound on what Ive been saying. Ive been spamming recently, sorry guys, but exciting RL is exciting, as was getting my alt back. I have explained the mechanics of possession. Anyone want to ask anything more?



"What in God's name are you Blathering about!!!"

virtual rep if you know that movie quote.

Stop it evil Ruse. You make me miss nice Ruse...oh the fun times we had, almost lynch, becoming friends, the development of an Alt. relationship..... um ok, that sounds bad :(


"Aye, the very oceans heaved," to quote Erikson. Alas, unless you are my gf, epic fail is epic. Truly, what are you basing "Evil Ruse" on? I've explained how I have a partial BP. I can only be possessed for a day, then my password is changed and my RL alt gets PMed with the new one. My full BP has been gone since n3. Do you really think DiBs would set up this game so that Team Killers would have high powered Quinn, and Team Inno would not have to face off against Team Dead and the Cult without some form of protected character?

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:56 PM

Day 8, 8 of you stil alive

5 votes for stuff to happen

3 votes for Ruse (GL, Liosan, Shadow)

5 people have not voted yet, (Ruse, mockra, Telas, Galain, HP).

you have forever--the clock restarts at 8 AM GMt monday with 36 hours to go.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:01 PM

View PostRuse, on Nov 19 2008, 06:04 PM, said:

God, what a day. I am now officially finished with varsity :(

Anyway, it seems like I'm still prime suspect. I am now going to reveal :( I refused to do this earlier, because I would rather have died without the scum finding out my role than reveal and get lynched anyway. However, information from last night has made me change my mind. The other reason I am doing this is because this may be the do or die vote. Even if noone believes what I say now and I get lynched (assuming the game doesnt end) hopefully the information I put forward now will make a difference. It's not much, but I can clear one person from being original cult and back up another person's defence.

I have depossession abilities. The interesting thing is the I dont have a zero-tau machine and didnt start the game with these abilities either, having originally been a finder. These are the two main reasons I am revealing. Even if you dont believe me (and I get lynched), there is still a depossessor in play (let's hope it wasnt some once off ability)

So I started the game as a finder. I decided to put finds in on people who didnt really stand out, since all the obvious suspects (meanas, rashan etc) all had a lot of pressure on them and I figured we'd know their alignment soon enough. Seems this was pretty lucky, since rashan killed Tenne's dog when it did a find.

Night one I investigated Liosan. He came back as a good guy. I was hoping shadow's partner would be someone on my cult-list, but at least now I know both of them are telling the truth and are most likely still innocent. Unless some other crazy thing has happened since then.

Night two I investigated Telas. He also came back innocent. This is one of the reasons I was so patient with the case against me in the beginning - I was 90% sure he was still innocent and didnt want to start a flame war that would definitely get one, maybe two innos lynched.

Night three I got a pm explaining that my role had changed to that of depossessor. If you look at my posts at that time, I suddenly start making a big noise about possessed and state that 'I'm assuming from now on possessed are in play'. Since my role obviously wouldnt change unless there were possessed in the game, I was trying to let everyone know what was going on. That night I exorcised Emur, because he seemed like he was in a rush to lynch Rashan. He wasnt possessed.

Night four I exorcised Fener, since there were a couple of comments regarding his change in post style. He was not possessed either. The interesting thing was the next day he CF'd possessed. Since my action cant block incoming possessions ( I made sure of this with PS), he could only have been possessed the same night I tried to exorcise him. Hence my 'crazy theory' putting forward that he might have been newly possessed. I'm still not sure if it was my action that caused him to explode later - I hope not.

Last night I exorcised Tennes. It was a toss up between him and Liosan, since both had been really quiet. After Liosan posted that he had just been the subject of a depossession, I send my NA in for Tennes. Not that it mattered, since someone vigged him. Unless that was me, but DiBs hinted the original alts would return to their bodies if an exorcism was successful (oh yes, I also made sure that everyone knew about that once I found out).

I also hope this clears up a lot of my desire to discuss roles. I spent a lot of time talking to PS about how exactly the mechanics of the game worked. I didnt get as much information from him as I would have liked, but what little I did get I tried to share without seeming to know too much about what was going on.


Now. I had my role changed to that of a deposseser, yes?

As our original strength as innos was our numbers, seeing as by night three we where whittled down quite dramatically, is it really that unlikely that the teachable Depossesser role would come with a BP? It would more or less break the game if they didn't. If the normal depossesser(s) were lynched, well, the game would pretty much be broken for innos:
We would be unable to remove any Possessed without killing an inno alt.
Bad, bad, bad.

Edit: to include "alt".

This post has been edited by Ruse: 21 November 2008 - 11:07 PM


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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:07 PM

Games where so many people get CI'd like this at the end bore me. Hence very little posting.

Vote Ruse

The possessed bastard must die.

Also, HP may have started as the teacher, but he's lying about one thing, I ain't never had a vig of any kind. I'm completely roleless. Always have been.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:14 PM

View PostTelas, on Nov 22 2008, 01:07 AM, said:

Games where so many people get CI'd like this at the end bore me. Hence very little posting.

Vote Ruse

The possessed bastard must die.

Also, HP may have started as the teacher, but he's lying about one thing, I ain't never had a vig of any kind. I'm completely roleless. Always have been.


Liars proven as liars are far more dangerous than "suspects". Unfortunatly, I can't prove my partial BP to you either. But that can't be DISPROVED either. Does anyone remember Mafia 31? DiB's lynch, unproved, turned out to CF an unexpected role?
Liars should be taken out.
Rashan lied, and he needed to go, after all.
So Telas, what do I have to do to prove I'm unpossessed? Or will I be speed lynched? Very good tactics, If I am.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:19 PM

My GF will be here in a while, so I would appreciate if you could all try to steam-roller me for being the only player known who can actually escape possession sooner rather than later

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:20 PM

View PostTelas, on Nov 21 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

Games where so many people get CI'd like this at the end bore me. Hence very little posting.

Vote Ruse

The possessed bastard must die.

Also, HP may have started as the teacher, but he's lying about one thing, I ain't never had a vig of any kind. I'm completely roleless. Always have been.


Well I now know Telas is Cult. Clearly this is his only play. But I do agree with evil Ruse on this point. I would rather get rid of Cult than Possesed. Shadow, Liosan, Galain... If Telas comes up as anything other than scum. Lynch me. I did send him the vig after Quin Got killed. It was a Super Vig program. used during day or night. if used during day, it ends day. Look at the timing, look when Korv died....

vote Telas

because I now know he is scum

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:22 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 22 2008, 01:20 AM, said:

View PostTelas, on Nov 21 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

Games where so many people get CI'd like this at the end bore me. Hence very little posting.

Vote Ruse

The possessed bastard must die.

Also, HP may have started as the teacher, but he's lying about one thing, I ain't never had a vig of any kind. I'm completely roleless. Always have been.


Well I now know Telas is Cult. Clearly this is his only play. But I do agree with evil Ruse on this point. I would rather get rid of Cult than Possesed. Shadow, Liosan, Galain... If Telas comes up as anything other than scum. Lynch me. I did send him the vig after Quin Got killed. It was a Super Vig program. used during day or night. if used during day, it ends day. Look at the timing, look when Korv died....

vote Telas

because I now know he is scum


Are you sre you sent him the vig, HP, and there was no error? Because one of you is lying, and at this point i can't tell.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:33 PM

We all know ruse is still possessed. There's really no reason to dance around that. He can make up all the shit he wants, he is still possessed and will remain to be possessed until he is lynched. period.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:34 PM

and would a cultist even be able to recive aditional powers?

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:42 PM

View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:33 AM, said:

We all know ruse is still possessed. There's really no reason to dance around that. He can make up all the shit he wants, he is still possessed and will remain to be possessed until he is lynched. period.



View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:34 AM, said:

and would a cultist even be able to recive aditional powers?


Stop bein a stubborn alt, Liosan. Then again, I should have guessed as much.
Stubborn alt needs to compare my posting style before possession to my posting style after possession (after RL made me somewhat maniacal).

I'm guessing one of two things. a) He didn't and then IS Cult and trying to hide his lack of ablity.
Or it could be that he's lying and is Cult and DID recieve powers, and use them.

Editted for politeness. I'm irratated. I hate being called scum when I'm not.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 21 November 2008 - 11:43 PM


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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:44 PM

and I'm more willing to believe Hood's Path than I am Telas. Mainly because Telas has been a better cult candidate than Hood's Path. Since I didn't block Emurlahn it is likely that he managed to recruit one player. Obviously it is not Galain or Mockra as the pm thing would not work with a cultist seeing that all former powers are lost upon conscription.

IT could not be Shadow or I. It could not be Ruse.

That leaves Galayn Lord, Hood's path and Telas. Hood's Path has revealed a power than can easily be tracked, and I believe he used it tonight, yes? That clears him if that can be proven by the receiver.

Galayn Lord has been a strong candidate for lynch for some time, making him a poor recruit.

Telas on the other hand, though by no means a PI, has been silent enough and under the radar enough to be an aluring target I think.

So, I still say we lynch Ruse just in case -though it is unlikely- that he's the only remaining non-town still in play. I'll block Telas I think, but I reserve that decision for later

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:45 PM

View PostRuse, on Nov 22 2008, 01:42 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:33 AM, said:

We all know ruse is still possessed. There's really no reason to dance around that. He can make up all the shit he wants, he is still possessed and will remain to be possessed until he is lynched. period.



View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:34 AM, said:

and would a cultist even be able to recive aditional powers?


Stop bein a stubborn alt, Liosan. Then again, I should have guessed as much.
Stubborn alt needs to compare my posting style before possession to my posting style after possession (after RL made me somewhat maniacal).

I'm guessing one of two things. a) He didn't and then IS Cult and trying to hide his lack of ablity.
Or it could be that he's lying and is Cult and DID recieve powers, and use them.

Editted for politeness. I'm irratated. I hate being called scum when I'm not.


you know, you're just adorable. Hood's Path, come on and hammer him. You won't get a Telas lynch going, but I will block him if you can get whomever you gave a power to last night to come forwards.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:48 PM

View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:45 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Nov 22 2008, 01:42 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:33 AM, said:

We all know ruse is still possessed. There's really no reason to dance around that. He can make up all the shit he wants, he is still possessed and will remain to be possessed until he is lynched. period.



View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:34 AM, said:

and would a cultist even be able to recive aditional powers?


Stop bein a stubborn alt, Liosan. Then again, I should have guessed as much.
Stubborn alt needs to compare my posting style before possession to my posting style after possession (after RL made me somewhat maniacal).

I'm guessing one of two things. a) He didn't and then IS Cult and trying to hide his lack of ablity.
Or it could be that he's lying and is Cult and DID recieve powers, and use them.

Editted for politeness. I'm irratated. I hate being called scum when I'm not.


you know, you're just adorable. Hood's Path, come on and hammer him. You won't get a Telas lynch going, but I will block him if you can get whomever you gave a power to last night to come forwards.


There's an IF going on there. Very reliable.
And yeah HP, you'll never get a Telas lynch going, so jump on the train, that ALWAYS works.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:52 PM

View PostRuse, on Nov 22 2008, 01:48 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:45 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Nov 22 2008, 01:42 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:33 AM, said:

We all know ruse is still possessed. There's really no reason to dance around that. He can make up all the shit he wants, he is still possessed and will remain to be possessed until he is lynched. period.



View PostLiosan, on Nov 22 2008, 01:34 AM, said:

and would a cultist even be able to recive aditional powers?


Stop bein a stubborn alt, Liosan. Then again, I should have guessed as much.
Stubborn alt needs to compare my posting style before possession to my posting style after possession (after RL made me somewhat maniacal).

I'm guessing one of two things. a) He didn't and then IS Cult and trying to hide his lack of ablity.
Or it could be that he's lying and is Cult and DID recieve powers, and use them.

Editted for politeness. I'm irratated. I hate being called scum when I'm not.


you know, you're just adorable. Hood's Path, come on and hammer him. You won't get a Telas lynch going, but I will block him if you can get whomever you gave a power to last night to come forwards.


There's an IF going on there. Very reliable.
And yeah HP, you'll never get a Telas lynch going, so jump on the train, that ALWAYS works.


when we're lynching scum, then yes. If someone in this game are dumb enough to consider believing you we've lost anyway, so I spose I'll just wait and see

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