[Galain]

Shadow, on Nov 21 2008, 10:55 AM, said:

Wait, is that died as in: 'one possessed or recruited, then BOTH die?"
If so, it seems we're diametrically opposed. I much prefer my relationship
Also... does this 'ability' (or crutch) last as long as you live, or only as long as your partnership lasted? If the last, your claim as Certified Town ™ isn't all that.

Now, Mockra's claim: it's highly convenient that the ones he did research according to his reveal were:

Serc is not laton. Serc died an Inno.
Shadow is not laton. Damn right I'm not, but I revealed, am cleared by Liosan, backed up by Liosan's time in zero tau and now backed up by the rule Liosan published.
Galain is not laton. He spent time in zero tau, so he's been cleared in another way, too.
Emurlahn is not laton. convenient that today's lynch target is the only one not previously cleared.

In other words: I believe nothing at all of this reveal as it's too conveniently a defense for our suspected cult leader. It's like, let's take a couple of confirmed town, throw in Serc, who we doubted, and let the CF and previous established alignments work for the cult.
GL: You made me agree with Galain. The horror
Galain: was Thyrllan Joshua?

Also, as a sidenote: I'm starting to understand why the cult hasn't won yet. They might have spent time recruiting Liosan or me before our respective reveals... Add a possessed cultist or so and they're not the monster they could have been right now if every recruiting attempt succeeded.

I don't know about the dying thing, it's confusing enough to get info from PS as it is. My point that you could be in good faith, and that's all I needed I guess.

For Thyrlan, Tennes got away with reavealing his partner's name, but I'm not sure if it's allowed. But let's say if I was you with the same info you have, then yes, that would be a very good guess

I did reveal as the person who received PMs from someone sounding like what Mockra revealed, so make the easy conclusion about who I am since I can't confirm it. I do not know if he's in good faith, or confused after leaving the game for a while and getting back in his old alt with the PMs flushed. But here's what I know:

I only got PMs at night, not during day like Mockra said. Nothing on night 1, and on night 2 I got the "sofa" PM with saying he was investigating Serc. I got the PM from PS, so I can't confirm who sent it.

Night 3, I got that Serc is not Laton
Night 4, I got that Shadow is not Laton, and that he was investigating Hood's Path.

Then nothing. Obviously, he could only send me the find results on the night AFTER the investigation, since once he got the result it was too late to PM me that night.

The day after the last PM was the day we had a three-alt explosion, Gamelon, Fener and Meanas, to situate you in the timeline.

That's my info, I can't confirm it came from Mockra (if he's possessed, he could have seen those PMs in spoiler heaven), and I can't confirm his actual final HP action since it is possible he changed his provisional after sending me the message. I don't know, but I would not consider Emurlahn inno because of his reveal.

[Shadow]

Liosan, on Nov 20 2008, 06:51 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Nov 21 2008, 01:40 AM, said:

Liosan, on Nov 20 2008, 03:33 PM, said:

yeah.. sleep i such a beautiful think eh? Anyways, Mockra's reveal sounds not too bad, but i reserve judgment here. If he is speaking the truth, my little theory that Fener was Laton and blew up because of possession makes a little more sense.

And If Mockra is telling the truth, and your theory is correct, we only have 1 possesed and possibly 1 cult left.

yeah. Laton's ladyfriend and the last possessed. Though, for all we know some of you might've been recruited.. Still, I like those odds.

Also, Galain, if you believe Mockra's claim then your worries about Shadow and I should be put to rest, right? Ruse investigated me night 1 and found me innocent remember, and Shadow is by Mockra's claim, not Laton.

So, here's what I suggest we do. This might come back to bite me, but I do think we have to take some chances and so I take te first step.. Night one I was given the guard power by that sweet old woman handing out powers all over the place (at least I think it was night one.. this has been a long game and I've been on and off quite a bit). Shadow can confirm as I told him a few nights later (we're not into communication. Our relationship works as long as we do lots of humping to avoid talking to each other).

So, basically we lynch Emurlahn and I guard Ruse.

That reminds me, Ruse, I guarded you one night. Which night was that .. I dunno if that kind of stuff is posted in SH or not. It's worth a shot

Number 5... wish I had used multi-quote
I confirm that Liosan told me he was a guard right before he revealed.
As for the humping: not that I dislike seeing you scream, honey, but I'm getting a bit tired of being asked to put on the strap-on yet again.

[Galain]

Was your chubby-hubby guarding Meanas at some point?

[Emurlahn]

Well at least I managed to survive sleeping. Mockras reveal is interesting but I am wondering whats happened to Ruse now and why he isnt here to back up Mockra. As for his non Laton reveals, obviously I know I'm not Laton so that doesn't help me but if what Galain is saying is true that the investigations were Serc, shadow and HP then I don't know why Mockra fake symping me.
So now I'm just undedcided between GL (for reasons Ive stated many times) and now Mockra for symping me and just loading more crap onto my lynch train that everyone seems to be wanting to get on

[Galain]

Sadly, Emur, at this point it's a process of elimination. God knows I have tried hard to poke holes in other player's stories

Mockra just revealed a role I know existed. I can't confirm he's still in good faith, but that leaves you, GL and HP.

If Shadow's snookum' hookum' is a guard, did he guard you yesterday? If we lynch wrong, can he guard one of the others? If Ruse is zero-taued, night should bring him back with more info

[Shadow]

Galain, on Nov 21 2008, 04:32 AM, said:

Was your chubby-hubby guarding Meanas at some point?

I understand why you ask this, but: at this point, I'm not going to deny or confirm since Liosan is using the previous uses of his ability to test Ruse and any clue makes a guesstimate easier for someone hiding in Ruse, if Ruse is possessed. So, for now: not that I'm aware.

[Liosan]

ah, it is morning and the day has not ended yet. This must be a new record. I hope you're feeling better now Galain, and that the nerves aren't getting to you

Anyways, as I said earlier I think Fener was Laton and so Emurlahn could very well be the lady friend.

If I am not convinced I'll assume Ruse to be possessed (the fact that he has yet to post says a lot in my opinion) and block him. The thing is, I originally said that I didn't think Ruse could be possessed because of his role, but thinking about it (and reading the Night's Dawn Wiki) I realised there was no logical reason for him to be immune. Just so people understand why I changed my opinion so radically.

[Galain]

Liosan, on Nov 21 2008, 12:18 PM, said:

ah, it is morning and the day has not ended yet. This must be a new record. I hope you're feeling better now Galain, and that the nerves aren't getting to you

WHAT??? WHO SAID THAT???


UH???





...

[Liosan]

.. do you feel better now?

[Liosan]

and just out of curiosity, was your love affair as amusing as is shadow and I being lovers? An ironic outcome I'd say

[Ruse]

Im back
Just catching up

[Ruse]

Mockra, on Nov 21 2008, 12:01 AM, said:

Ok, ive regainecd my body.
I was possessed, and thanks to whoever got it back for me, reading up.

Hah...my pleasure

[Ruse]

Telas, on Nov 21 2008, 12:30 AM, said:

My problem with Mockra's "return" is that he may well be a possessed who was targeted last night. We have no way of knowing, I say he should still be high on the lynch list.

This is true, but I know I did exorcise him last night so wont be voting him any time soon.

[Ruse]

Liosan, on Nov 21 2008, 12:18 PM, said:

ah, it is morning and the day has not ended yet. This must be a new record. I hope you're feeling better now Galain, and that the nerves aren't getting to you

Anyways, as I said earlier I think Fener was Laton and so Emurlahn could very well be the lady friend.

If I am not convinced I'll assume Ruse to be possessed (the fact that he has yet to post says a lot in my opinion) and block him. The thing is, I originally said that I didn't think Ruse could be possessed because of his role, but thinking about it (and reading the Night's Dawn Wiki) I realised there was no logical reason for him to be immune. Just so people understand why I changed my opinion so radically.

Sorry for not posting, I had a train wreck couple of days.
Anyhow, I dont know how I am supposed to convince you of all that I am still me.

Either you believe me or you dont, I did exorcise mockra last night.
What more can i say?

[Galain]

Well, if he's the original Mockra back in business, then we should ask him if he did change his action from HP to Emurlahn, or if he got confused.

Or did he investigate Emurlahn in the first night, I never got a PM from him with the results of that. I assumed he investigated me, which is why he could send me PMs after that, starting night 2.

Hmmm.

This post has been edited by Galain: 21 November 2008 - 11:44 AM

[Galain]

Liosan, on Nov 21 2008, 12:58 PM, said:

and just out of curiosity, was your love affair as amusing as is shadow and I being lovers? An ironic outcome I'd say

You mean unalted-wise? Let's just say Thyrllan had to resist a urge to kill.

[Galain]

Remove vote


until Mockra comes back, since Ruse is not silenced and backs up his story, even though he took time to appear, we need to think.

[Ruse]

Galain, on Nov 21 2008, 01:44 PM, said:

Well, if he's the original Mockra back in business, then we should ask him if he did change his action from HP to Emurlahn, or if he got confused.

Or did he investigate Emurlahn in the first night, I never got a PM from him with the results of that. I assumed he investigated me, which is why he could send me PMs after that, starting night 2.

Hmmm.

Now that I think about it I am by no means completely convinced myself.
Since I cant depossess anyone the same night they are possessed and everyone knew that i was going to go for Mockra last night.
It would be a perfect opportunity to actually target him last night.

Lets see what he has to say, I bought his reveal.
I completely forgot about the guys in spoiler heaven reading the pm's.

[Galain]

And actually, "depossess" doesn't mean "de-culted", which is what we're suspecting now.

Maybe he knew you would target him and plays the "back in my alt" card to make it sound impossible he's in the cult right now.

[Ruse]

Galain, on Nov 21 2008, 01:49 PM, said:

Remove vote


until Mockra comes back, since Ruse is not silenced and backs up his story, even though he took time to appear, we need to think.

The fact that I took time to appear should actually lend credence to me being still who i say i am.
Since there is a whole host of dead souls screaming to come back I doubt there would have been a delay had I been possessed

I agree though, lets wait and see if Mockra can show us anything more substantial before we get too lynch happy with poor Ehmur.