[Hood's Path]

Mockra, on Nov 17 2008, 10:36 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Nov 17 2008, 05:18 PM, said:

Mockra too. though he does tend to jump around a bit.

Oh, and I hope this isnt some alt guess, on the hope you can later go, look, hes JA, wow, quotez...

Bye.

HAHAHA no, no alt guess, just noting that you don't tend to post in a specific pattern that I can tell.

[Hood's Path]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 17 2008, 10:41 AM, said:

At this point, two factions benefit from us wasting a lynch on a neutralized Meanas: Cultists, and Meanas himself. People who push strongly towards that end are, in my opinion, blatantly Cult, or even Possessed who are screwing with all of us.

I don't disagree with you, but a point of clarification, how does Meanas benifit from his own lynch? At the point that the final killer is dead the Ivets lose. Am I missing something?

[Hood's Path]

Seems to be dead. I'll check back in in a an hour or so.

[Ruse]

I'm sorry, now you've just gone and lost me.

Galayn Lord, on Nov 17 2008, 08:41 PM, said:

(I'm taking a break from what I should be doing)

Me being that last Killer makes no sense, and I don't even think there is a Symp - given how stacked the game already is against the Town, having a Symp would make the Killers' job too easy. Furthermore, I didn't exactly stand by passively while Rashan and Anomandaris were lynched, nor did I try to defend or deflect during their trains - I was a supporter in both cases.

Ok, this bit I agree with symp = unlikely.

Galayn Lord, on Nov 17 2008, 08:41 PM, said:

Most importantly, if the Guard is recruited or possessed, we're screwed anyways, both by losing an important RP as well as sheer numbers. May as well get some use out of them while we start chipping at the Cult, hopefully to take down the recruiter if they're still alive.

At this point, two factions benefit from us wasting a lynch on a neutralized Meanas: Cultists, and Meanas himself. People who push strongly towards that end are, in my opinion, blatantly Cult, or even Possessed who are screwing with all of us.

Who exactly is 'them'. There's no way we'd know if a guard against the cult is successful, so I dont see how a guard can 'take down' the cult. Unless you're suggestion we form some sort of truce with the killer? How would that work? Also, by your logic, we're screwed if anyone gets recruited tonight - there's way more important roles than guard at this point.

And I've said before. THE IVET IS NOT NEUTRALISED. He's (most likely) been guarded two nights in a row, by someone who could possibly lose their power at ANY time. If by some random chance Meanas isnt the killer and we lose the guard before sorting this whole thing out, then what? Then we've lost a strong RP and gained nothing.

And how is pushing for Meanas's lynch 'blatantly cult'? We avoid accidently hitting an inno. We avoid a situation that could quite possibly bite us in the ass. Sure, the cult want the possibility of NKs gone as well. But with the last Ivet gone, the only way for someone to die is by lynch. Lynches are good. There's trains. There's defence. There's symping and all sorts of other useful stuff. By leaving the killer in the game, we lose a large amount of control over what's going on. And at this point, that control is probably the only thing the town has going for it.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 5 you have roughly 15 hours and 30 minutes left in the day.
14 players still remain, 8 for a lynch, 7 for night.


1 vote for Fener (Galain)
4 votes for Ruse (Galayn Lord, Emurlahn, Shadow, Meanas)


Not voted
Liosan, Hood's Path, Telas, Tennes, Fener, Gamelon, Korvalain, Ruse, Mockra

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 17 November 2008 - 08:15 PM

[Meanas]

Well my vote on Mockra was to get a reaction of some sort, whether it worked or not, he has spoken up, so my vote is now pointless.

Remove Vote

Now Ruse, you seem to be going on and on about getting me lynched and the more people try to look elsewhere, to explore the game and look at other people, the more you try to beat them into submission! So

Vote: Ruse

Because you seem to be trying to stop people from looking anywhere else!

[Mockra]

You voted me?
Suppose theres a reason, so i'll go check it out, and make some sort of explanation.

[Mockra]

Gut feeling, fair enough.
Any particular reason, or just pure gut?

Nvm.

Killing Ivet isnt the way forward, imo, cause it gives cult a big advantage.
Therefore im looking at people I think could be cult, particularly original.

[Meanas]

No, my vote was after my post regarding a re-read of your posts, I wanted to look at HP first before voting anywhere.

[Ruse]

Meanas, on Nov 17 2008, 09:36 PM, said:

Well my vote on Mockra was to get a reaction of some sort, whether it worked or not, he has spoken up, so my vote is now pointless.

Remove Vote

Now Ruse, you seem to be going on and on about getting me lynched and the more people try to look elsewhere, to explore the game and look at other people, the more you try to beat them into submission! So

Vote: Ruse

Because you seem to be trying to stop people from looking anywhere else!

Sigh, I just cant do anything right this game.

I'm not try to stop people looking elsewhere. The only person that has been seriously looked at is me. Please, try find the leader of the cult. My ideas in that department amount to pretty much nothing and I've said as such.

I just think this 'we dont have to worry about the ivet anymore' attitude that's suddenly come up is retarded. Meanas, if you aren't the last Ivet, then I'm sorry. In my defence, the evidence against you is pretty strong. Especially since noone had come forward to clear you. I would rather lynch someone that there's evidence against than follow some sketchy case and lynch an inno (which is exactly what's happening ).

So sorry if I havent been the most productive little townie today, I'm kinda pissed off with this BS case against me and am probably only making things worse.

[Mockra]

Meanas, on Nov 17 2008, 02:41 PM, said:

Second, I remember someone saying something about letting a finder perform his find, well I would like to remind you all that we have lost a finder already. What are the chances we have anymore.

Jeez, when did this happen?
We lost a finder?

Dont remember that at all.

[Meanas]

Mockra where were you when Tennes made his reveal on day 2?

[Mockra]

Oh, the dog.
Forgot about him.

Pretty much forgot about Tennes altogether.

[Ruse]

Mockra, on Nov 17 2008, 09:54 PM, said:

Meanas, on Nov 17 2008, 02:41 PM, said:

Second, I remember someone saying something about letting a finder perform his find, well I would like to remind you all that we have lost a finder already. What are the chances we have anymore.

Jeez, when did this happen?
We lost a finder?

Dont remember that at all.

Night one. Tennes's bond partner (Barg or Tellan) did a find on Rashan and got hit by some sort of ninja ability.

[Ruse]

Anyway, going out for a quick drink, be back in an hour or two.

[Meanas]

*anticipates drunk incriminating posts*

[Telas]

An observation, just something that caught my eye and made me look back at this post. Note the underlined bit.

Hood's Path, on Nov 17 2008, 05:50 PM, said:

Hello all- Back after a long weekend. I didn't get to look at the thread much over the weekend for longer than a few minutes. Ok on topic:

I fail to see how not killing the last Ivet is a good thing. As soon as the guard is recruited we start getting picked off again. I like Ruse's plan of the Meanas lynch and if we are way off base, the Guard comes forward. We can't risk a Guard recruitment and a town NK with a free killer. Not sure who mentioned it, but, if Cult can recruit every night we are pretty much down to a game between possessed and cult. Unless the possessed start taking over all cult members.

It might be worth noting that dead people in the beyond can see NA's. this would include the NA's of the Cult. Lets sure as shit hope the cult leader is fucking with the dead because if he isn't.... then they ppl in the beyond pretty much know who all the town are. That being said, they probably have a pretty good idea who the cult leader is. I would think the cult leader would be an attractive target as the possessed could then stop cult growth (unless there is a second/backup recruiter that wasn't Omtose) and having a good idea who town is start picking us off.

I think we need to get this last killer out of the way before he starts wreaking havoc and it gives us one more thing to worry about. Then we start going after the cult head. Thats where I stand. Thoughts?

Not sure why you limit Omtose to only being the second/backup recruiter. Is it because you already know who the recruiter is, maybe?

[Mockra]

Not sure what you mean? Explain please.

I interpretted it as "if there wasnt another recruiter that wasnt omtose."

Is he saying something different?

[Meanas]

Um... Telas? You have confused me now.

I read that to mean that if the cult recruiter is possessed and the second/backup recruiter was Omtose, the cult would not grow anymore, you know seeing as Omtose is a dead cultist and all...


Edit: Cross post

This post has been edited by Meanas: 17 November 2008 - 08:11 PM

[Telas]

After reading through, something that rather bothers me is the way Ruse has spent all day advocating his lynch Meanas plan, but has at no point put his money where his mouth is and actually voted Meanas. He seems too concerned with getting permission from the town and wants to be able to say "But you all agreed with me" should Meanas come back innocent. Its just more of that passive/aggressive play I was talking about on day 4, happy to offer ideas, point a finger or two, but never willing to charge in and do something. Not wanting to dirty his hands, I think.

Add this to the other reasons I've given in the past for suspecting him and I'm happy to set him up for the hammer.

Vote Ruse