[Serc]

Omtose, on Nov 12 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

hmm
book-wise, a character with a familiar-dog checks out.
and the functions of vig+finder appropriate to them check out too

so, I don't see a reason to disbelieve Tennes, unless he's pulling a Khell...

And what if he's a finder who looked up Rashan last night and got all his info to use against him? Or has read the books?

Yes, I am paranoid but something smells suspicious here.

[Galayn Lord]

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 12:50 PM, said:

If he is an Ivet then why does he have a BP? Anomandy didn't. And don't use that possession business on me, I doubt it comes into play Day/Night Two.

He could be Quinn, and thefore only killable either through a second lynch, or a vig from a particular person (like whoever's playing Josh).

[Tennes]

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 08:46 PM, said:

Exactly. I don't like Tennes story. Even less so, now. He said orange jumpsuit, Ivet. He sped up a lynch. We tried lynching this fellow and got nowhere. A BP. Only Quinn or someone else would have a BP. Remember how we lynched the last Ivet with ease? Either Tennes's information is wrong, or he is lying to us to get Rashan killed.

Or I am telling the truth and Rashan over there is Quinn who is according to those who have read the books is a BMF.

What don't you like about my story. The fact that no one else has counter claimed my role or that of my dog (vorax). I looked at how you guys lynched Ando and it looked like Ando and Rashan were both off line. Once that train got going they weren't around to stop it. Rashan probably thought that he would be able to get back in time to remove his joke vote but didn't or if he did see the lynch at the last bit he decided not to remove it and let his guy take the hit. I did get a lynch on Rashan and it didn't work so according to standard mafia protacol we keep after him till we get a CF. Then if I am wrong you lynch me but I will have asked for a mod kill so you won't have to.

[Tennes]

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

Omtose, on Nov 12 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

hmm
book-wise, a character with a familiar-dog checks out.
and the functions of vig+finder appropriate to them check out too

so, I don't see a reason to disbelieve Tennes, unless he's pulling a Khell...

And what if he's a finder who looked up Rashan last night and got all his info to use against him? Or has read the books?

Yes, I am paranoid but something smells suspicious here.

Your right it does and I am thinking that it might be you.

[Telas]

Lynch Immune Role = BASTARD MOD!
Lynch Immune Innocent Role = FUCKING BASTARD MOD!

I'd lynch Rashan again just on principle, even if I had any reason to believe he was innocent. Roles that are immune to town justice have no place in Mafia.

Gamelon, on Nov 12 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

Telas, on Nov 12 2008, 03:49 PM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 04:40 PM, said:

Vorax linked with me. Cause according to PS he was my bonded animal.

I assume that he is a character from the book for those of you who know the book, my character is XXXXXXXXXXX


edit by mod - no names please

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B11) Revealing the name of your character is expressly forbidden both in the living thread and in the beyond, doing so will result in a modkill and the removal of your player from both here and heaven.

Stick to your own rules and modkill him.

For some reason this struck a chord with me. Are we usually this eager for a modkill?

Normally not, but consistency from the mods is good. Also, the reason I would've been happy to see him go would be to see his CF and thereby have a clearer view on whether he is telling the truth or not.

[Tennes]

Telas, on Nov 12 2008, 08:57 PM, said:

Lynch Immune Role = BASTARD MOD!
Lynch Immune Innocent Role = FUCKING BASTARD MOD!

I'd lynch Rashan again just on principle, even if I had any reason to believe he was innocent. Roles that are immune to town justice have no place in Mafia.

Gamelon, on Nov 12 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

Telas, on Nov 12 2008, 03:49 PM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 04:40 PM, said:

Vorax linked with me. Cause according to PS he was my bonded animal.

I assume that he is a character from the book for those of you who know the book, my character is XXXXXXXXXXX


edit by mod - no names please

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B11) Revealing the name of your character is expressly forbidden both in the living thread and in the beyond, doing so will result in a modkill and the removal of your player from both here and heaven.

Stick to your own rules and modkill him.

For some reason this struck a chord with me. Are we usually this eager for a modkill?

Normally not, but consistency from the mods is good. Also, the reason I would've been happy to see him go would be to see his CF and thereby have a clearer view on whether he is telling the truth or not.

If I am lying I have already said that I will ask to be modkilled and not put back into the game.

[Serc]

Tennes, what if you have a BP and are a Cult finder?
What I don't like is a) the complete Reveal. Why do that? I'd think Powell would have more than one vig, too.
Rashan has not made a move to defend himself, really. Not properly. He's made no countercases. He's too resigned, and his replies scream inno.
c) You said Ivet. If Rashan is Quinn, he aint an ivet.

[Tennes]

Telas, on Nov 12 2008, 08:57 PM, said:

Lynch Immune Role = BASTARD MOD!
Lynch Immune Innocent Role = FUCKING BASTARD MOD!

I'd lynch Rashan again just on principle, even if I had any reason to believe he was innocent. Roles that are immune to town justice have no place in Mafia.

Gamelon, on Nov 12 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

Telas, on Nov 12 2008, 03:49 PM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 04:40 PM, said:

Vorax linked with me. Cause according to PS he was my bonded animal.

I assume that he is a character from the book for those of you who know the book, my character is XXXXXXXXXXX


edit by mod - no names please

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B11) Revealing the name of your character is expressly forbidden both in the living thread and in the beyond, doing so will result in a modkill and the removal of your player from both here and heaven.

Stick to your own rules and modkill him.

For some reason this struck a chord with me. Are we usually this eager for a modkill?

Normally not, but consistency from the mods is good. Also, the reason I would've been happy to see him go would be to see his CF and thereby have a clearer view on whether he is telling the truth or not.

Plus there is also this

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C1) Failure to comply with the rules may result in any punishment the mods deem appropriate, including, but not limited to: a request to edit posts; formal warnings on thread; "modkilling", lashing, spanking, paddling, the rack, thumbscrews, waterboarding, time-out, death and/or ending the game prematurely in favor of one faction or none. Except where clearly stated in the rules, the mods are free to respond to any rules violation in whatever manner they wish. In all cases the mods' decision on these matters is final.

C2) Feel free to PM your thoughts (or questions) to the mods. We love to hear them!

C3) The mods reserve the right to amend the rules during the game if we realize we've forgotten to cover something.

[Galayn Lord]

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 12:56 PM, said:

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

Omtose, on Nov 12 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

hmm
book-wise, a character with a familiar-dog checks out.
and the functions of vig+finder appropriate to them check out too

so, I don't see a reason to disbelieve Tennes, unless he's pulling a Khell...

And what if he's a finder who looked up Rashan last night and got all his info to use against him? Or has read the books?

Yes, I am paranoid but something smells suspicious here.

Your right it does and I am thinking that it might be you.

Agreed. He's going all out to discredit you - which will happen anyways if Rashan comes up Inno - and to defend the possibility that Rashan is, somehow, an Inno with a BP, while not admitting he could be Quinn.

Rashan has not yet explained his survival in a satisfactory way.

[Serc]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 12 2008, 08:59 PM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 12:56 PM, said:

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

Omtose, on Nov 12 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

hmm
book-wise, a character with a familiar-dog checks out.
and the functions of vig+finder appropriate to them check out too

so, I don't see a reason to disbelieve Tennes, unless he's pulling a Khell...

And what if he's a finder who looked up Rashan last night and got all his info to use against him? Or has read the books?

Yes, I am paranoid but something smells suspicious here.

Your right it does and I am thinking that it might be you.

Agreed. He's going all out to discredit you - which will happen anyways if Rashan comes up Inno - and to defend the possibility that Rashan is, somehow, an Inno with a BP, while not admitting he could be Quinn.

Rashan has not yet explained his survival in a satisfactory way.

I don't deny he could be Quinn, but why call him an ivet? I got the feeling from the opening and the book summary I read that Quinn is not an ivet. And if you want, I shall prove my innocence right now. You'll have to wait for PS for confirmation though.

[Galayn Lord]

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 12:59 PM, said:

If Rashan is Quinn, he aint an ivet.

Reread the opening scene. Quinn is leading the two Ivets, and is one himself.

[Tennes]

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 08:59 PM, said:

Tennes, what if you have a BP and are a Cult finder?
What I don't like is a) the complete Reveal. Why do that? I'd think Powell would have more than one vig, too.
Rashan has not made a move to defend himself, really. Not properly. He's made no countercases. He's too resigned, and his replies scream inno.
c) You said Ivet. If Rashan is Quinn, he aint an ivet.

Well I only had one Vig so why wouldn't I reveal myself. I no longer had the possibility of a partner so a full reveal does absolutly no damage to me. I took my time and looked at the other options and there wasn't a down side to a full reveal. So I decided to do it. If I still had my vig I would have kept my mouth shut made a case on him voted for him hoped that he got lynched then when he Bp viged him. But I don't have a vig anymore so there isn't any point in not revealing.

[Tennes]

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Nov 12 2008, 08:59 PM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 12:56 PM, said:

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

Omtose, on Nov 12 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

hmm
book-wise, a character with a familiar-dog checks out.
and the functions of vig+finder appropriate to them check out too

so, I don't see a reason to disbelieve Tennes, unless he's pulling a Khell...

And what if he's a finder who looked up Rashan last night and got all his info to use against him? Or has read the books?

Yes, I am paranoid but something smells suspicious here.

Your right it does and I am thinking that it might be you.

Agreed. He's going all out to discredit you - which will happen anyways if Rashan comes up Inno - and to defend the possibility that Rashan is, somehow, an Inno with a BP, while not admitting he could be Quinn.

Rashan has not yet explained his survival in a satisfactory way.

I don't deny he could be Quinn, but why call him an ivet? I got the feeling from the opening and the book summary I read that Quinn is not an ivet. And if you want, I shall prove my innocence right now. You'll have to wait for PS for confirmation though.

I would rather you didn't reveal till day time.

[Omtose]

wtf?
how is Quinn not an Ivet? he was busted, brought to lalonde and was part of the ivet gang.
my other post got 404-ed, but the gist of it is, Tennes' story is book consistent, and if Rash is inno, we lynch Tennes.

and since he's the leader who trained the rest and made them worship God's Brother, I can see him getting a BP.

[Serc]

Path-Shaper, on Nov 6 2008, 11:34 AM, said:

Opening Scene


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Quinn watched as the towns folk grabbed another Ivet, he couldnt tell who it was from this distance and with the failing light, but the orange jump suit was unmistakable. The other two, all that remained of his sect in the Ivets, where crouched behind him. Their serpent beast had taken full control over them, and instead of fear their felt empowered by the slaughter, for they were not weak like the others. The townsolf that hunted them had numerical advantage yes, but they were skilled killers, well practiced in deciet and murder. Quinn had taught them well.

"Lets move, if any of them come for us in the night we will send them to Light Brother and curse their souls to the pit."

"And Laton?" asked Lawrence.

Quinn paused for a moment, considering his hidden nemesis. "He did us a favour when he cut the comm lines to the capitol, so we can deal with him later."

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It doesnt mention him being an Ivet. Says he leads them. Not he is one.

[Path-Shaper]

telas - i made a decision, the post had just gone up and i edited it. I see modkills as a severe last resort that rule is designed to avoid the town mass revealling and breaking the game in a way it was not designed to be played. The result of the cf would also have influenced the game. If you wish i will modkill tennes now and withhold the cf, but i am not biasing a decision players need to make by removing a player and garaunteeing a course of action which robs another player of their chance or detracts from the flow of the game needlessly.

Please send in night actions, i have a very early start tomorrow and will into be in work to nearly ten so you have an hour and a half or long night will be really long

SERC- That said any reveals which do not affect the game beyond robbing it of any fair chance goo against the rules and will be severely punished. This is consistent in my mind witht he decision on tennes which would have directly affected a running lynch train.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 November 2008 - 09:07 PM

[Serc]

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 09:04 PM, said:

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Nov 12 2008, 08:59 PM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 12:56 PM, said:

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

Omtose, on Nov 12 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

hmm
book-wise, a character with a familiar-dog checks out.
and the functions of vig+finder appropriate to them check out too

so, I don't see a reason to disbelieve Tennes, unless he's pulling a Khell...

And what if he's a finder who looked up Rashan last night and got all his info to use against him? Or has read the books?

Yes, I am paranoid but something smells suspicious here.

Your right it does and I am thinking that it might be you.

Agreed. He's going all out to discredit you - which will happen anyways if Rashan comes up Inno - and to defend the possibility that Rashan is, somehow, an Inno with a BP, while not admitting he could be Quinn.

Rashan has not yet explained his survival in a satisfactory way.

I don't deny he could be Quinn, but why call him an ivet? I got the feeling from the opening and the book summary I read that Quinn is not an ivet. And if you want, I shall prove my innocence right now. You'll have to wait for PS for confirmation though.

I would rather you didn't reveal till day time.

One of my rules of thumb is I don't like revealing, but I can tell you what I did tonight and PS can confirm it straight off, I wouldn't know otherwise. Unless im lucky like JA.

[Tennes]

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 09:05 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on Nov 6 2008, 11:34 AM, said:

Opening Scene


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Quinn watched as the towns folk grabbed another Ivet, he couldnt tell who it was from this distance and with the failing light, but the orange jump suit was unmistakable. The other two, all that remained of his sect in the Ivets, where crouched behind him. Their serpent beast had taken full control over them, and instead of fear their felt empowered by the slaughter, for they were not weak like the others. The townsolf that hunted them had numerical advantage yes, but they were skilled killers, well practiced in deciet and murder. Quinn had taught them well.

"Lets move, if any of them come for us in the night we will send them to Light Brother and curse their souls to the pit."

"And Laton?" asked Lawrence.

Quinn paused for a moment, considering his hidden nemesis. "He did us a favour when he cut the comm lines to the capitol, so we can deal with him later."

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It doesnt mention him being an Ivet. Says he leads them. Not he is one.

If he has a sect in the Ivets then he would have to be one. Can you be the Pope and not be catholic? I mean come on.

[Omtose]

dammit, people get your actions in
PS, can't you just give Grief the modding power? i'm sure he needs a study break...

[Tennes]

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 09:07 PM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 09:04 PM, said:

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Nov 12 2008, 08:59 PM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 12 2008, 12:56 PM, said:

Serc, on Nov 12 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

Omtose, on Nov 12 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

hmm
book-wise, a character with a familiar-dog checks out.
and the functions of vig+finder appropriate to them check out too

so, I don't see a reason to disbelieve Tennes, unless he's pulling a Khell...

And what if he's a finder who looked up Rashan last night and got all his info to use against him? Or has read the books?

Yes, I am paranoid but something smells suspicious here.

Your right it does and I am thinking that it might be you.

Agreed. He's going all out to discredit you - which will happen anyways if Rashan comes up Inno - and to defend the possibility that Rashan is, somehow, an Inno with a BP, while not admitting he could be Quinn.

Rashan has not yet explained his survival in a satisfactory way.

I don't deny he could be Quinn, but why call him an ivet? I got the feeling from the opening and the book summary I read that Quinn is not an ivet. And if you want, I shall prove my innocence right now. You'll have to wait for PS for confirmation though.

I would rather you didn't reveal till day time.

One of my rules of thumb is I don't like revealing, but I can tell you what I did tonight and PS can confirm it straight off, I wouldn't know otherwise. Unless im lucky like JA.

It is of course up to you. I am usually not a big fan of revealing my self. However in my case there wasn't a down side and I could get a lynch on scum. I felt that it was a good call.