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#1601 User is offline   Liosan 

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:05 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 07:01 PM, said:

Hello.... Bloody hell, I can't believe this crap. Still no lynch. Lame. Rather hung over at the moment, but am trying to think straight, to you bastard possesed up there, I have coded one of my early posts with my role and I will reveal it tomorrow to prove non possesed. As for cultists, I am unrecruitable tonight, I know this for a fact. That I can reveal today if people want. One thing that bothers me is what Gay lord said. We are quickly losing inno's... though since Galain came back from the Zero Tau I would think he is inno... Hard telling though. but, if gay lord is voting with us that makes 6. (Me, Shadow, Liosan, Galain, Ruse, Gay Lord). Hopefully the guard guarded Emur, and Ruse depossesed Mockra. What am I missing?

@ Shadow I believe Korv said in his original reveal that Possesed and Cult die if put in his machine. I will double check though


what do you think about the Mockra/Emur/GL post of mine.. do you agree?

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:08 PM

View PostKorvalain, on Nov 19 2008, 05:29 PM, said:

Screw it, I'm going to reveal because if I reveal we can cover our options. I'm the guy with the zero tau unit. I'm Security for Joshua.

I started the game as a Roleless Inno. I can back up the story of Ruse a little, as on the time of Rashan being lynched and killed, I also had a role change and got a Zero Tau Unit.

I put in my night action, and that person can't post till the end of the next day. In the end of day scene we find out what happened. If they are possessed, they are depossed. If they are Cult, they are killed.

Today in the machine is Galain, which is why I'm revealing since we are going to find out at the end of today if he's cult or possessed or not.

Yesterday in the machine I put Liosan, the day before was Thyrllan, which is why I suspect he got Mod killed straight away as he couldn't post the whole day anyway. I started out trying to get people who weren't under pressure so I didn't put Ruse/Omtose etc. If they weren't going to talk the entire day to defend themselves I wanted people who weren't initial suspects but were under the radar a little.

I went Galain as we needed Cult and he seemed to me the best cult pick and was happy to reveal today if he was put under pressure.


With both Ruse, myself and the guard, we can spread out, cover 3 different people, lynch a fourth suspect today and that pretty much covers the entire field.

As for Galain's proof, I had the same idea but completety forgot to do it, you have a code in a day 1 post that only you know. It means you can tell if someone is possessed, but not if they were recruited by asking them to reveal the code.


bold is mine. Why would he lie? He even picked Galain because he thought he was cult. It makes sense to me.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:15 PM

View PostLiosan, on Nov 20 2008, 02:25 AM, said:

All right, this is how I see it.

Mockra is the possessed. Remember that the dead are up in SH looking down on us talking among each other and finding good targets for later. Mockra has been since very early the best target for possession (apart from Tennes perhaps) and I cannot believe he has not been taken. Mockra is possessed and should thus be depossessed for joy and candy.

There's two other players who could be evil at this point I believe.

Emurlahn and Galayn Lord.

Galayn Lord is to my mind the most likely candidate, though Emurlahn is not too far behind. One of them is cult, the other is either cult or possessed I think.


I have it backwards from you, I think Emur is scum. GL is possesed.recruit/inno.

I am pretty sure Telas was inno as of yesterday now that I think about it. One good thing, If Ruse Depossesed Mockra tonight, then we should get another inno back for today. One thing we need to watch for, Galain/Telas are in all likelyhood gonna be turned tonight.... unless GL is actually inno, then I think he will be one to go.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:21 PM

@ Liosan. One thing I think is noteworthy, We were/are on the right track... after Korv's reveal and me/Korv/GL's planning,...Korv Dies and it goes to night. If Mockra doesn't come back depossesed he is the cult leader. But if thats the case, after night actions I think it will be impossible for town to win, as it will be You, me, Shadow and Ruse with 5 possesed/cult out there.

I agree with Galain though... Its really fishy that there are no cult coming up dead.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:29 PM

@HP: aye, it's weird. Either the possessing people are, in the Beyond, on purpose selecting people to possess that they think were town, who had night actions (and thus had to publish them in the Beyond), and then all of a sudden didn't send actions in (token of being recruited due to loss of ability), or the cult is playing an exceptionally clean game, or the cult's recruiting mechanic is not what we think it is.

I personally think the first would be the best solution for us town, as it would mean that the possessed downsize the cult problem for us, the third I would find acceptable since it means it's probably not 1 recruit a night but less, but I'm afraid it might be the second one: cult being very strong.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:37 PM

View PostShadow, on Nov 20 2008, 09:29 AM, said:

@HP: aye, it's weird. Either the possessing people are, in the Beyond, on purpose selecting people to possess that they think were town, who had night actions (and thus had to publish them in the Beyond), and then all of a sudden didn't send actions in (token of being recruited due to loss of ability), or the cult is playing an exceptionally clean game, or the cult's recruiting mechanic is not what we think it is.

I personally think the first would be the best solution for us town, as it would mean that the possessed downsize the cult problem for us, the third I would find acceptable since it means it's probably not 1 recruit a night but less, but I'm afraid it might be the second one: cult being very strong.


I think its probably a combination... the cult playing well/being strong AND the possesed helping us out a bit. Remember the possesed are limited in who they possess by people they can inhibit stealthily. I think It would be wise from this point on, for the non lovers to code a sentance every night for the rest of the game. We can basically eliminate new cult this way...though that doesn't help the problem of existing cult.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:40 PM

How much longer is night?

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:41 PM

I find it highly unlikely that Mockra is a cult leader. Sometimes we have to take chances. I am convinced that Mockra is possessed and thus think we should act accordingly

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:45 PM

Well, I've eaten and caffeinated, but really don't know what to say at this point ... I'll keep checking back in until Night's over, then vote fast.

Not sure if there's any point towards me leaving an incomplete message to prove I'm not Possessed in a few hours - after all, it won't prove I haven't been recruited, or that I'm not already Possessed. But here, anyways:


"Old-time _____ just sort of ______ and went away when the ______ boom busted, but their _____ and ______ sparkle were _____ Saturday, Oct. __, in ______ Valley.

Tales of_______ , miracles, ______ cops and ______ parties intertwined with a colorful mix of stories about ____ monkeys, _____ setters, _____, rangers and other ______ as their voices echoed softly and sometimes _______ around the home of fellow _____ Warren ______."

Shouldn't be possible for anyone to find that in just a few hours.

If it matters at all, of course.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:46 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 09:40 AM, said:

How much longer is night?


12 hours total, and it should be over in about another 3.5hrs if it times out.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:55 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Nov 20 2008, 09:45 AM, said:

Well, I've eaten and caffeinated, but really don't know what to say at this point ... I'll keep checking back in until Night's over, then vote fast.

Not sure if there's any point towards me leaving an incomplete message to prove I'm not Possessed in a few hours - after all, it won't prove I haven't been recruited, or that I'm not already Possessed. But here, anyways:


"Old-time _____ just sort of ______ and went away when the ______ boom busted, but their _____ and ______ sparkle were _____ Saturday, Oct. __, in ______ Valley.

Tales of_______ , miracles, ______ cops and ______ parties intertwined with a colorful mix of stories about ____ monkeys, _____ setters, _____, rangers and other ______ as their voices echoed softly and sometimes _______ around the home of fellow _____ Warren ______."

Shouldn't be possible for anyone to find that in just a few hours.

If it matters at all, of course.


I am almost positive you aren't possesed as your posting times have been very consistent, before work and at night :p I am West Coast too so its easy to track you :p

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 06:01 PM

__________ provides a vast directory of ___________for ________ looking to throw a party, or ______their party-going style, or actually looking to learn how to ________. This is the most coveted and renown ___________, and is referred to as "The Ultimate _________For Drinking and Partying _______" through Independent _________throughout the Internet.

I should do this too. Though I have one in my Day 1 posts, it might reveal to much so I will do this one too.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:09 PM

Lonely HP is Lonely. :p

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:13 PM

Dawn cracks above the horizon. None notice the rays of sunshine streaming down. You are two busy making sure that the tree that you have your back against is not going anywhere. As you hurriedly look around at the rest of the group you do a quick count and release that everyone is still present, Much to your irritation.

As breakfast is being made mumbling can be heard coming from your area "....couldn't someone have at least taken Galain or Liosan out....There is no god..."


Ok campers it is now Day 7 you have 36 hours to enjoy each others company. There are 9 of you left and none have voted.


Names mentioned in this day break have no meaning in the game other then to provide enjoyment for the mods... :p
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:16 PM

I'm back.

I realize that Korvalain coming back inno is the only thing that keeps me sane. I know he did say the cult would die in his machine, I do not understand why that would be (that's a damned powerful machine), but I also do not understand why, if inno, he would have lied.

Otherwise it would explain the Shadow mystery to me. Don't take this the wrong way, Shadow, but your game has bugged me immensely until now.

The vig reveal made no sense at the time you made it. Last game the recruiter could talk to his recruits, and he fake-revealed using info he got from him. Why reveal vig at that time? You say it's because of the "guard" hypothesis, but let's be serious, you know better than me that a succesful guard is far from the most probable scenario at the time. Healer, or redundant killer kill are as probable. It makes sense if you recruited that same night the vig who killed your cult partner, and what better way to "innocent" yourself than claim this vig for yourself, a vig that killed a cult?

Your lover reveal reeked. That's not how you reveal lovers, what you did is prove you can talk to Liosan off-thread. See above, maybe that's what recruiters can do. You know better than me that a proof of lovers involves coding each other's names in early posts. Why didn't you do this? Also, your timing for revealing lovers made no sense, you say it's to prevent cult or possessed from chosing you, I say being lover is a perfect cult or possessed trap if played intelligently by the remaining lover. Liosan's confirmation reveal might just mean you recruited him before.

Many of your posts and reasoning show intelligence and experience, but your acts are all a wee bit off center of how you do things properly. I can't fit with Liosan surviving the tau machine if indeed it kills cults. I can't but I keep thinking.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:16 PM

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This was for Lioasian and his obvious love of all things alcoholy :p

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:17 PM

cross-post with day.

Well, then, I can prove I started inno, and that I'm still not possessed.

One second, I have to find the posts.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:19 PM

View PostGalain, on Nov 20 2008, 11:16 AM, said:

I'm back.

I realize that Korvalain coming back inno is the only thing that keeps me sane. I know he did say the cult would die in his machine, I do not understand why that would be (that's a damned powerful machine), but I also do not understand why, if inno, he would have lied.

Otherwise it would explain the Shadow mystery to me. Don't take this the wrong way, Shadow, but your game has bugged me immensely until now.

The vig reveal made no sense at the time you made it. Last game the recruiter could talk to his recruits, and he fake-revealed using info he got from him. Why reveal vig at that time? You say it's because of the "guard" hypothesis, but let's be serious, you know better than me that a succesful guard is far from the most probable scenario at the time. Healer, or redundant killer kill are as probable. It makes sense if you recruited that same night the vig who killed your cult partner, and what better way to "innocent" yourself than claim this vig for yourself, a vig that killed a cult?

Your lover reveal reeked. That's not how you reveal lovers, what you did is prove you can talk to Liosan off-thread. See above, maybe that's what recruiters can do. You know better than me that a proof of lovers involves coding each other's names in early posts. Why didn't you do this? Also, your timing for revealing lovers made no sense, you say it's to prevent cult or possessed from chosing you, I say being lover is a perfect cult or possessed trap if played intelligently by the remaining lover. Liosan's confirmation reveal might just mean you recruited him before.

Many of your posts and reasoning show intelligence and experience, but your acts are all a wee bit off center of how you do things properly. I can't fit with Liosan surviving the tau machine if indeed it kills cults. I can't but I keep thinking.


You are barking up the wrong tree, and your immediate post after night attacking a VPI has me believing you were probably recruited last night.

EDIT Ok i guess that post was made before night timed out so it will probably has no bearing on if you were recruited.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:23 PM

Shadow is at worst a recruit. Meaning he can't talk off thread. We need to concentrate on our original Plan.

vote Emur

Hopefully, Mockra comes on at some point today, I will be interedted to see what happens. Also would like a Liosan/Shadow communication verification.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:25 PM

I was Thyrllan's lover, and we coded each other's names in early posts :

First letter of each sentence:

View PostGalain, on Nov 11 2008, 08:17 AM, said:

Well, I see Gamelon got a few more votes. Since it's 5x104 votes to lynch, I'm not worried to leave my vote there still.

The other one that tickles me is Rashan. He did panic a bit after minimal pressure from Telas, and this "leave Rashan alone" moment by Anomandaris was suspect. Yes, it's lame, but it's there and I don't see the point of it. Rashan "joked" about getting symped, maybe diffusing the thing by pointing out the obvious, maybe he was himself annoyed of his "buddy's" initiative.

Last post by PS was a while ago, not sure how much time left. Later today I'll have more time to post, hopefully in time for the serious stuff. Actually getting a lynch with 22 players would blow my mind, that would be a new record, for sure :p. Now, who's the lucky volunteer, ready to go down in history? :p


First letter of every second sentence:

View PostThyrllan, on Nov 11 2008, 09:41 AM, said:

Tell me about it. God, I wasn't going to sign up for this game because I feared spoilers. Even with dibs being adamant that it was book 1 only, you can't stop some people from going too far. Anyway, I don't think the spoilers Meanas quoted were that big, so no worries. Just lynch him later :p



Liking the drunkenness :p It's about time we had a major drunken rant. Although having said that, it seemed to have stopped with this passage, when I was kind of hoping for a major breakdown. Ah well.

If you ask me, this whole Gamelon thing is a bit weak, which is why I haven't joined the bandwagon, and won't be dropping a vote before I go out today. Yeah he's making spurious claims, but I think that's noobiness coming to the fore rather than anything else. Now I'm not saying we should be afraid of lynching noobs, cos we all know where that didn't get us the game before last, but seems to me we should chill a bit.

He might be scum, but he's not pinging my radar as scum right now. I'll be back about 6 tonight, a good three hours ish until day ends, so I can use my vote then if it is necessary. Byeeeeee.

ETA: that was a cross post, meant for D'riss. What are you all doing on at this time, anyway? :p I'm around for the next ten if you want to chat.


And Thyrllan was CFed innocent (or town, whatever)

I also confirm he was zero-taued the day before Liosan, I know because he wanted originally to ask for mod-kill on Saturday but he was given permission from the mods to warn me that he would get modkilled earlier earlier because of the silencing.

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