[Emurlahn]

Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 07:16 PM, said:

I'm back.

I realize that Korvalain coming back inno is the only thing that keeps me sane. I know he did say the cult would die in his machine, I do not understand why that would be (that's a damned powerful machine), but I also do not understand why, if inno, he would have lied.

Otherwise it would explain the Shadow mystery to me. Don't take this the wrong way, Shadow, but your game has bugged me immensely until now.

The vig reveal made no sense at the time you made it. Last game the recruiter could talk to his recruits, and he fake-revealed using info he got from him. Why reveal vig at that time? You say it's because of the "guard" hypothesis, but let's be serious, you know better than me that a succesful guard is far from the most probable scenario at the time. Healer, or redundant killer kill are as probable. It makes sense if you recruited that same night the vig who killed your cult partner, and what better way to "innocent" yourself than claim this vig for yourself, a vig that killed a cult?

Your lover reveal reeked. That's not how you reveal lovers, what you did is prove you can talk to Liosan off-thread. See above, maybe that's what recruiters can do. You know better than me that a proof of lovers involves coding each other's names in early posts. Why didn't you do this? Also, your timing for revealing lovers made no sense, you say it's to prevent cult or possessed from chosing you, I say being lover is a perfect cult or possessed trap if played intelligently by the remaining lover. Liosan's confirmation reveal might just mean you recruited him before.

Many of your posts and reasoning show intelligence and experience, but your acts are all a wee bit off center of how you do things properly. I can't fit with Liosan surviving the tau machine if indeed it kills cults. I can't but I keep thinking.

Well I have to say I can think of a perfectly good reason to claim that his machine would kill cult. For the sheer fact that we seem reluctant to lynch people when they can't defend themselves so being put in their would be a pretty safe place for a cult to be, unless they got killed by it, so I would think he was trying to do it to weed out the people who didnt want to be put in the machine (obviously this may be a bit far fetched but I cant beleive that he got an ability that would kill 2 out of 4 factions in the game).
Now I still dont like the sound of Galayn Lord at all, his earlier plan of leaving a killer alive stank, and now he's basically saying he'll just vote for whoever other people vote for (and somehow people seem to think this makes him look good )

[Galain]

Hood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 09:23 PM, said:

Shadow is at worst a recruit. Meaning he can't talk off thread. We need to concentrate on our original Plan.

vote Emur

Hopefully, Mockra comes on at some point today, I will be interedted to see what happens. Also would like a Liosan/Shadow communication verification.

No, Shadow is at worst Laton. Everything that happened around him makes perfect sense if he is (more than his own justifications, that's for sure), and if he can talk to his recruits.

Sadly, the only piece that blocks me is the fact that Korvy told us his machine kills Cult and Korvy died inno.

[Galain]

Once again, it's when he told us that Liosan's tau-machine stasis made him worried that he got possessed or recruited was his first mistake of the game. It made everything that was bugging me until now go click in my head by taking me back and away from the assumption we have been making.

Sadly, like I said, there's that piece that doesn't fit, so I'll stop now. If Korvy lied to us, then I fail to understand why, and it was a mistake he made.

[Galain]

Pushing this back, Emurlahn is indeed a logical lynch choice. Him, Mockra or Gaylord, by elimination.

I'm a bit upset and confused now to contribute more in that vein, though

[Galayn Lord]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 20 2008, 09:45 AM, said:

"Old-time _____ just sort of ______ and went away when the ______ boom busted, but their _____ and ______ sparkle were _____ Saturday, Oct. __, in ______ Valley.

Tales of_______ , miracles, ______ cops and ______ parties intertwined with a colorful mix of stories about ____ monkeys, _____ setters, _____, rangers and other ______ as their voices echoed softly and sometimes _______ around the home of fellow _____ Warren ______."

From: Plumas News

"Old-time loggers just sort of splintered and went away when the logging boom busted, but their zest and youthful sparkle were rekindled Saturday, Oct. 25, in Indian Valley.

Tales of logging mishaps, miracles, clock-happy cops and drinking parties intertwined with a colorful mix of stories about grease monkeys, choke setters, fallers, rangers and other woodsmen as their voices echoed softly and sometimes raucously around the home of fellow logger Warren Gorbet.
"


This just proves I wasn't Possessed last night, of course, nothing else.

Galain's speculations have me unnerved - if Shadow and Liosan are faking, the Town has already lost. The best I can do is stick with earlier opinions.

Anyways, on with the show.

Vote Emurlahn


Edit: Forgot to add my quote source. Also, Galain is pretty obviously CI based on his reveal. Scant comfort, at this point.

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 20 November 2008 - 07:40 PM

[Hood's Path]

Emurlahn, on Nov 20 2008, 11:26 AM, said:

Well I have to say I can think of a perfectly good reason to claim that his machine would kill cult. For the sheer fact that we seem reluctant to lynch people when they can't defend themselves so being put in their would be a pretty safe place for a cult to be, unless they got killed by it, so I would think he was trying to do it to weed out the people who didnt want to be put in the machine (obviously this may be a bit far fetched but I cant beleive that he got an ability that would kill 2 out of 4 factions in the game).
Now I still dont like the sound of Galayn Lord at all, his earlier plan of leaving a killer alive stank, and now he's basically saying he'll just vote for whoever other people vote for (and somehow people seem to think this makes him look good )

I guess its possible, but he had been a straight arrow the entire game, and say he did lie... well then when someone came back from the machine alive....we would all assume the were CI..but only he would know they weren't....then he would have to explain when they got back that he lied and they are in fact possible cult, making him a liar and us not really trusting him. It doesn't make sense.

As for Gaylan Lord... We have 2 people GL and Emur who are probably original recruiters. I lean towards Emur..and the fact that you are a possible recruit and pushing for GL makes me want to go Emur all that much more...

There are 5 people who could have been recruited last night.Ruse, Galain, Gay Lord, Ruse, and Telas. I am assuming 2 of those got turned. I'm sorry if Its hard for me to take the word of one of those 4 ppl nothing personal

EDIT added Ruse to the list.

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 20 November 2008 - 07:45 PM

[Hood's Path]

SHADOW IS NOT FAKING. MOVE ON PLEASE!

[Liosan]

Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 09:33 PM, said:

Once again, it's when he told us that Liosan's tau-machine stasis made him worried that he got possessed or recruited was his first mistake of the game. It made everything that was bugging me until now go click in my head by taking me back and away from the assumption we have been making.

Sadly, like I said, there's that piece that doesn't fit, so I'll stop now. If Korvy lied to us, then I fail to understand why, and it was a mistake he made.

I think you are just overreacting something badly about a very simple thing. I was gone both night and day. That's it.. jeez

Anyways, I think we should go for Emurlahn or Galayn Lord.. One problem though, is that I don't know if Ruse targeted Mockra or not, I do not know if I was right about Mockra (though I think so) and I do not know if depossession blocks the possessed from opening up someone else for possession (or recruiting, to be simple about it).

[Hood's Path]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 20 2008, 11:37 AM, said:

Edit: Also, Galain is pretty obviously CI based on his reveal. Scant comfort, at this point.

CI as of a couple days ago

[Hood's Path]

Liosan, on Nov 20 2008, 11:39 AM, said:

Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 09:33 PM, said:

Once again, it's when he told us that Liosan's tau-machine stasis made him worried that he got possessed or recruited was his first mistake of the game. It made everything that was bugging me until now go click in my head by taking me back and away from the assumption we have been making.

Sadly, like I said, there's that piece that doesn't fit, so I'll stop now. If Korvy lied to us, then I fail to understand why, and it was a mistake he made.

I think you are just overreacting something badly about a very simple thing. I was gone both night and day. That's it.. jeez

Anyways, I think we should go for Emurlahn or Galayn Lord.. One problem though, is that I don't know if Ruse targeted Mockra or not, I do not know if I was right about Mockra (though I think so) and I do not know if depossession blocks the possessed from opening up someone else for possession (or recruiting, to be simple about it).

He was VPI yesterday and seemed to go along with everything we said. I believe he would have told us if he was going to NA someone else.

[Liosan]

Hood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 09:41 PM, said:

Liosan, on Nov 20 2008, 11:39 AM, said:

Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 09:33 PM, said:

Once again, it's when he told us that Liosan's tau-machine stasis made him worried that he got possessed or recruited was his first mistake of the game. It made everything that was bugging me until now go click in my head by taking me back and away from the assumption we have been making.

Sadly, like I said, there's that piece that doesn't fit, so I'll stop now. If Korvy lied to us, then I fail to understand why, and it was a mistake he made.

I think you are just overreacting something badly about a very simple thing. I was gone both night and day. That's it.. jeez

Anyways, I think we should go for Emurlahn or Galayn Lord.. One problem though, is that I don't know if Ruse targeted Mockra or not, I do not know if I was right about Mockra (though I think so) and I do not know if depossession blocks the possessed from opening up someone else for possession (or recruiting, to be simple about it).

He was VPI yesterday and seemed to go along with everything we said. I believe he would have told us if he was going to NA someone else.

true. Still, it is possible that possessed Mockra was able to possess someone else before being thrown out of the alt. Though, I am just assuming that the possessed function much like a cult.

[Galayn Lord]

Hood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 11:39 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Nov 20 2008, 11:37 AM, said:

Edit: Also, Galain is pretty obviously CI based on his reveal. Scant comfort, at this point.

CI as of a couple days ago

I'm primarily going off of his code as the final proof.

I have no idea if we should believe that Korv's chamber actually kills Cult - I offered to get put in it under that assumption, but I guess if he was bluffing ... it wouldn't have done me any good.

[Hood's Path]

If I was possessed I would think that Ruse would be a prime suspect... taking out the 1 person who could actually take out possesed. I am assuming Ruse is a goner barring a huge revelation. That leaves 4 people as cult recruit candidates.

[Liosan]

Hood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 09:46 PM, said:

If I was possessed I would think that Ruse would be a prime suspect... taking out the 1 person who could actually take out possesed. I am assuming Ruse is a goner barring a huge revelation. That leaves 4 people as cult recruit candidates.

I very much doubt that Ruse can be possessed.

[Hood's Path]

Does it really matter at this point if Korv's machine Kills cult or not? What am I missing as to why this is important.

[Galayn Lord]

You know, if Shadow and Liosan really are Lovers, they can talk off thread during Day, I believe. If they're Cult faking, they can't.

The easiest thing for them to do would be to start and finish a sentence right now, during Day. There is some chance they have something pre-arranged, but it would be pretty solid.

Better yet - start and finish FIVE sentences. They might have one or two pre-arranged as a contingency, but I doubt they have that many.

[Galayn Lord]

Hood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 11:49 AM, said:

Does it really matter at this point if Korv's machine Kills cult or not? What am I missing as to why this is important.

Galain might have been recruited. If he was recruited before being Silenced, he would have died if Korv was telling the truth.

He may have been recruited last night, same as any of us.

[Hood's Path]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 20 2008, 11:51 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 11:49 AM, said:

Does it really matter at this point if Korv's machine Kills cult or not? What am I missing as to why this is important.

Galain might have been recruited. If he was recruited before being Silenced, he would have died if Korv was telling the truth.

He may have been recruited last night, same as any of us.

I know.. at this point it really doesn't matter. Galain was CI for all of 1 night (unless Korv was lying) until night ended and now he is back with the suspect pool.

I do agree with you though. Shadow and Liosan need to confirm they can still talk to eachother. 1 sentence is fine by me. They were CI last night to me.

[Hood's Path]

I hate Dibs... before last night's Korv death we were 5 VPI's and 5 others... now its 3 CI's I thought we had it last night. Galain does have a point though... if possesed can just daykill... we just need to duck and cover. We havent had a lynch in 2-3 days

[Galayn Lord]

Hood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 12:01 PM, said:

I hate Dibs... before last night's Korv death we were 5 VPI's and 5 others... now its 3 CI's I thought we had it last night. Galain does have a point though... if possesed can just daykill... we just need to duck and cover. We havent had a lynch in 2-3 days

If we could get the lynch in fast enough, it could be possible to beat the Day-kill PM - that's what PS was hinting at earlier. If Shadow, Liosan, and Galain all voted right now, we'd be done with at least one lynch.

We just had nine people watching, including PS ... and no new votes, even though that should have included Galain and probably Shadow - Liosan was visible. They should have voted. That they didn't says to me that one of them was recruited, and possibly another Possessed, and that things are pretty much Cult-majority at this point, and Town (all likely four of us) is screwed.

I'm hoping otherwise, and that Ruse'll get here and help ... but I'm just really pessimistic right now.

Edit: Still seven people watching, including PS and a non-player (wth are you doing, Bent?). That means five voters, three of whom aren't you and me.

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 20 November 2008 - 08:11 PM