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well if peter decides not to save me (please dont be thyrllan) then i hope sylar gets me cause he will be pretty unstoppable if he knows whos going after who.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:38 PM
Shadow, on Oct 30 2008, 01:35 PM, said:
we want to kill Claire. then Peter can't win
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we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
BUT
we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
I actually spent a deal of time thinking about this last night. We don't know all the winning conditions, do we? What if the Company's winning condition relies on Claire being alive? Or what if she has a winning condition herself?
And besides, this is MAFIA people, she's hardly going to announce herself to the world "I'm here, yes, it's me, go ahead and lynch!"
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:39 PM
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Peter Petrelli can protect players. When he saves someone - which happens when they are attacked but his protection saves them - they become aware of him and will win when Peter wins. Peter wins when Sylar is killed and Claire is still alive. Peter does not have to be alive to win.
Bob Bishop and other company players can capture players. When you are captured, you cannot be protected by Peter Petrelli, and you don't count as saved. But you can still be killed. If you are captured and have an ability, you can't use your abilities while in captivity - but you can trade your night actions for an escape - which means you can't use your night actions the day and night following the escape.
To win the company have to capture Peter Petrelli, Sylar, Claire Bennet and Adam Monroe - but they can still win if they capture all remaining heroes.
Sylar can kill players. If you are killed by Sylar, you become a part of him, and win when he wins. The exception is Peter Petrelli and Claire Bennet. Sylar wins when Peter Petrelli and Claire Bennet are both dead.
But if you are killed by any other means, your last position determines how you win. If you were saved before you died, you win when Peter Petrelli wins, but if you were captured when you died, you win when the company wins. Some players have their own winning condition. Those are overridden by new winning conditions when a player is saved by Peter/captured/killed by Sylar.
Some of you don't have an expressed winning condition. Not having a winning condition means you lose, so you better try get the attention of someone that can give you one!
Bob Bishop and other company players can capture players. When you are captured, you cannot be protected by Peter Petrelli, and you don't count as saved. But you can still be killed. If you are captured and have an ability, you can't use your abilities while in captivity - but you can trade your night actions for an escape - which means you can't use your night actions the day and night following the escape.
To win the company have to capture Peter Petrelli, Sylar, Claire Bennet and Adam Monroe - but they can still win if they capture all remaining heroes.
Sylar can kill players. If you are killed by Sylar, you become a part of him, and win when he wins. The exception is Peter Petrelli and Claire Bennet. Sylar wins when Peter Petrelli and Claire Bennet are both dead.
But if you are killed by any other means, your last position determines how you win. If you were saved before you died, you win when Peter Petrelli wins, but if you were captured when you died, you win when the company wins. Some players have their own winning condition. Those are overridden by new winning conditions when a player is saved by Peter/captured/killed by Sylar.
Some of you don't have an expressed winning condition. Not having a winning condition means you lose, so you better try get the attention of someone that can give you one!
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:40 PM
Shadow, on Oct 30 2008, 01:37 PM, said:
Mockra, on Oct 30 2008, 09:36 AM, said:
erm...but doesnt sylars death give victory to peter?
not if Claire's dead
aah ok...thats the the piece thats been missing to make it all make sense to me...I thought it was a bit strange.
So claire is the first to go...okie dokie
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:40 PM
Barghast, on Oct 30 2008, 09:38 AM, said:
Shadow, on Oct 30 2008, 01:35 PM, said:
we want to kill Claire. then Peter can't win
BUT
we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
BUT
we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
I actually spent a deal of time thinking about this last night. We don't know all the winning conditions, do we? What if the Company's winning condition relies on Claire being alive? Or what if she has a winning condition herself?
And besides, this is MAFIA people, she's hardly going to announce herself to the world "I'm here, yes, it's me, go ahead and lynch!"
we know what Company's winning conditions are.
are you Claire, trying to confuse us?
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:42 PM
Barghast, on Oct 30 2008, 01:38 PM, said:
Shadow, on Oct 30 2008, 01:35 PM, said:
we want to kill Claire. then Peter can't win
BUT
we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
BUT
we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
I actually spent a deal of time thinking about this last night. We don't know all the winning conditions, do we? What if the Company's winning condition relies on Claire being alive? Or what if she has a winning condition herself?
And besides, this is MAFIA people, she's hardly going to announce herself to the world "I'm here, yes, it's me, go ahead and lynch!"
doesnt it say in the conditions on page 1 that the company needs to capture claire?
So it stands to reason the company want to keep her alive.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:44 PM
yes, they do
but, since the rest of us are trying to kill off Sylar + peter, it stands to reason that the winning condition of "Capture Sylap, Peter, Claire and Adam" will be a difficult one. Sine technically it becomes unachievable once even one of those is dead.
so, the more likely scenario is, the Company will go for "capture all the remaining heroes" condition.
Edit: I gotta go to a meeting, peoples. back in roughly 3 hours.
but, since the rest of us are trying to kill off Sylar + peter, it stands to reason that the winning condition of "Capture Sylap, Peter, Claire and Adam" will be a difficult one. Sine technically it becomes unachievable once even one of those is dead.
so, the more likely scenario is, the Company will go for "capture all the remaining heroes" condition.
Edit: I gotta go to a meeting, peoples. back in roughly 3 hours.
This post has been edited by Shadow: 30 October 2008 - 01:45 PM
#829 Guest_Barghast_*
Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:45 PM
Shadow, on Oct 30 2008, 01:40 PM, said:
Barghast, on Oct 30 2008, 09:38 AM, said:
Shadow, on Oct 30 2008, 01:35 PM, said:
we want to kill Claire. then Peter can't win
BUT
we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
BUT
we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
I actually spent a deal of time thinking about this last night. We don't know all the winning conditions, do we? What if the Company's winning condition relies on Claire being alive? Or what if she has a winning condition herself?
And besides, this is MAFIA people, she's hardly going to announce herself to the world "I'm here, yes, it's me, go ahead and lynch!"
we know what Company's winning conditions are.
are you Claire, trying to confuse us?
If only it was that easy
No, I ain't Claire. My role is actually quite boring, sadly.Mockra, on Oct 30 2008, 01:42 PM, said:
Barghast, on Oct 30 2008, 01:38 PM, said:
Shadow, on Oct 30 2008, 01:35 PM, said:
we want to kill Claire. then Peter can't win
BUT
we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
BUT
we want to do that once we know who Sylar is. because he has to be the next one to go, before he gets a chance to kill Peter and Win.
I actually spent a deal of time thinking about this last night. We don't know all the winning conditions, do we? What if the Company's winning condition relies on Claire being alive? Or what if she has a winning condition herself?
And besides, this is MAFIA people, she's hardly going to announce herself to the world "I'm here, yes, it's me, go ahead and lynch!"
doesnt it say in the conditions on page 1 that the company needs to capture claire?
So it stands to reason the company want to keep her alive.
Yes, exactly.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 02:00 PM
Anyways, our best bet is to find Claire and lynch her. Then we go towards Sylar. As Hiro and possibly Parkman are finders, it should not take too long to find the villain I think.
We'll just have to hope some stupid vig does not kill Sylar before we get Claire.
We'll just have to hope some stupid vig does not kill Sylar before we get Claire.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 02:07 PM
Personally I think Adam should be in our list of people we want to lynch. Of all the characters he's most likely to have an individual win condition that hurts everyone else.
Claire and Adam, the two immortals are I think the people we need to look for.
Claire and Adam, the two immortals are I think the people we need to look for.
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 02:15 PM
Telas, on Oct 30 2008, 03:07 PM, said:
Personally I think Adam should be in our list of people we want to lynch. Of all the characters he's most likely to have an individual win condition that hurts everyone else.
Claire and Adam, the two immortals are I think the people we need to look for.
Claire and Adam, the two immortals are I think the people we need to look for.
I disagree. Though we have to keep an eye on adam, he is not as important to kill right away I think, as is Claire and Sylar
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 02:17 PM
Emurlahn, on Oct 30 2008, 02:15 PM, said:
Telas, on Oct 30 2008, 03:07 PM, said:
Personally I think Adam should be in our list of people we want to lynch. Of all the characters he's most likely to have an individual win condition that hurts everyone else.
Claire and Adam, the two immortals are I think the people we need to look for.
Claire and Adam, the two immortals are I think the people we need to look for.
I disagree. Though we have to keep an eye on adam, he is not as important to kill right away I think, as is Claire and Sylar
So basically as your going so strongly along the lines of kill claire and then sylar so neither Peter or Sylar win, your trying to go for a company win then?
