[Serc]

spoke to the mods i can actually answer questions with smilies if they relate to my paintings, so i can actually discuss suggestions now properly:)

[Mockra]

Omtose, on Oct 29 2008, 03:55 PM, said:

Aggressive Mockra is aggressive.

To be honest, the lynching has to start somewhere. Simply put, we need some information, but we need to make sure we don't lynch a guy that results in immediate victory for another. I'd say we can go one night without a lynch and see all the fun stuff that's happening, but we'll need to lynch after that.

Now, everyone opposed to lynching the company on principle, take a chill pill and relax.
If Sylar requires 2 nights for a kill (or maybe day action scout, night action kill?), he's not going to be terribly fast about it all.
Peter is reactive and can only target targeted people for his effect anyway.

Then we have 4 (4!) suspected company guys, maybe operating in pairs; if they can even communicate amongst each other, or know each other. So far, we know the Haitian can give memory loss and we also have seen Noah putting in provisionals for capture. With Sylar being slow and Peter dependant upon hot nights, the company seems to be operating on more than an equal footing with the two of them if they can pull off one capture (Noah) and one temporary banishment (Haitian), and then we left Bob and Elle out of the equation.

Now, maybe the company needs a headstart to keep up in late game with Peter and Sylar, but do you really, really think that their game will fall down like a cardhouse hit by a hurricane if they eat an unlucky night 1 lynch? That would be real poor balance for the game, and Gem has been working very long on this one. Also, a lynch is just 1 dead person a day, do you claim to know how many vigs are out there, and compare their overall effect to that 1 lynch?

Lastly, it wouldn't strike me as unbelievable that we're to be led on a merry chase to eliminate the people with unique victory conditions before we even get to the endgame. Think about it: we've seen Mohinder put in 3 heals. How many infects do you think Adam has per night? My own guess is 2, at the least. If he has to infect X players (X being anywhere between 1 specific person and all of us), coupled with lynches and vigs, he could be damned fast with it especially if Mohinder is removed somehow, or blundering around.

All in all, I don't understand the nervousness about lynching a company guy. Lynching Sylar, yes, but Bob, Elle, the Haitian or Noah, who probably all work towards the same goal, no.

If thought like Emuhrlan...i would now say you and He are "paired".

[Omtose]

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 10:57 AM, said:

Who needs Sercs paintings? lol

Emurlahn just paints a painting of himself and hangs it on his door before night. Never seen somebody play this game so badly.

Could that be because it's your second game?

Stop heaping shit on other people, it's not going to get us anywhere near a solution.
Could be exactly what you want of course... flamewars don't deliver content.

[Omtose]

Think what you want, Mockra. You may even by pure chance stumble over the truth at some point.
It's how these things generally go.

[Fener]

I know who Emurlahn is. So what does that make Omtose?

[Mockra]

Omtose, on Oct 29 2008, 04:01 PM, said:

Think what you want, Mockra. You may even by pure chance stumble over the truth at some point.
It's how these things generally go.

I was making a goddamn point...

You should try reading it again...i said "if i thought like Emuhr..i would think that"

Not that i do think that....bah

[Emurlahn]

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 03:57 PM, said:

Who needs Sercs paintings? lol

Emurlahn just paints a painting of himself and hangs it on his door before night. Never seen somebody play this game so badly.

My quote was the defence of Mockra - not that it was much of a defence. The other quotes taken much later (especially the last one) were totally unrelated to their altercation and were not defensive at all. Serc was playing weird which made sense later in the day with his revelation and the fact that he posted some of his reasons for wanting certain outcomes. His reasons made sense.

Which is more than I can say about yours? Not surprised you have been showing up in Iaacs paintings.

Will tomorrows conversation be the same?

I'm making a day 1 point, and showing where I have it from so that people can make their own conclusions, and you expect something big and certain? Are you daft?

[Fener]

Serc, on Oct 29 2008, 02:59 PM, said:

spoke to the mods i can actually answer questions with smilies if they relate to my paintings, so i can actually discuss suggestions now properly:)

So you can confirm our suspicions?

[Omtose]

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

I know who Emurlahn is. So what does that make Omtose?

Someone who isn't afraid to speak his own mind, even if it leads to non-arguments.

I haven't seen a single bit of reply with content from both you and Mockra (ironically, again the two of you together... ) on that post I made, which DOES adress the state of the game. Even if you disagree with me, you could still put forward your own thoughts, but no. We get to see replies from each of you happy to throw out gutfeelings, vague pointers and implications.

Good for you that you know who Emur is. I don't know who he is. Care to enlighten me, Sherlock?

[Fener]

Emurlahn, on Oct 29 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 03:57 PM, said:

Who needs Sercs paintings? lol

Emurlahn just paints a painting of himself and hangs it on his door before night. Never seen somebody play this game so badly.

My quote was the defence of Mockra - not that it was much of a defence. The other quotes taken much later (especially the last one) were totally unrelated to their altercation and were not defensive at all. Serc was playing weird which made sense later in the day with his revelation and the fact that he posted some of his reasons for wanting certain outcomes. His reasons made sense.

Which is more than I can say about yours? Not surprised you have been showing up in Iaacs paintings.

Will tomorrows conversation be the same?

I'm making a day 1 point, and showing where I have it from so that people can make their own conclusions, and you expect something big and certain? Are you daft?

Perhaps a little daft.

Just not sure how useful a lynch might be to the majority of players.

[Fener]

Omtose, on Oct 29 2008, 03:09 PM, said:

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

I know who Emurlahn is. So what does that make Omtose?

Someone who isn't afraid to speak his own mind, even if it leads to non-arguments.

I haven't seen a single bit of reply with content from both you and Mockra (ironically, again the two of you together... ) on that post I made, which DOES adress the state of the game. Even if you disagree with me, you could still put forward your own thoughts, but no. We get to see replies from each of you happy to throw out gutfeelings, vague pointers and implications.

Good for you that you know who Emur is. I don't know who he is. Care to enlighten me, Sherlock?

Mohinda Suresh is my reckoning.

[Omtose]

Mockra, on Oct 29 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

Omtose, on Oct 29 2008, 04:01 PM, said:

Think what you want, Mockra. You may even by pure chance stumble over the truth at some point.
It's how these things generally go.

I was making a goddamn point...

You should try reading it again...i said "if i thought like Emuhr..i would think that"

Not that i do think that....bah

Oki then. still, I personally don't find it all that odd that Emur made a bit of a show about both of you commenting against Serc's point (with which I agree with... edits in quotes are no-no's, as I said before). He could have adressed it as noobishness instead of symping, but hey... this is alted, and who knows, maybe one or both of you have 30 games under the belt. Plus, prodding, provoking and pushing is a regular thing on day 1.

[Emurlahn]

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 04:10 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on Oct 29 2008, 03:07 PM, said:

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 03:57 PM, said:

Who needs Sercs paintings? lol

Emurlahn just paints a painting of himself and hangs it on his door before night. Never seen somebody play this game so badly.

My quote was the defence of Mockra - not that it was much of a defence. The other quotes taken much later (especially the last one) were totally unrelated to their altercation and were not defensive at all. Serc was playing weird which made sense later in the day with his revelation and the fact that he posted some of his reasons for wanting certain outcomes. His reasons made sense.

Which is more than I can say about yours? Not surprised you have been showing up in Iaacs paintings.

Will tomorrows conversation be the same?

I'm making a day 1 point, and showing where I have it from so that people can make their own conclusions, and you expect something big and certain? Are you daft?

Perhaps a little daft.

Just not sure how useful a lynch might be to the majority of players.

ah, but that's a valid point. What do you think we should do today? Do you think we should go to night?

anyways, sorry about the comment. A couple of things have happened that's put me in a really foul mood.

[Omtose]

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 11:13 AM, said:

Omtose, on Oct 29 2008, 03:09 PM, said:

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

I know who Emurlahn is. So what does that make Omtose?

Someone who isn't afraid to speak his own mind, even if it leads to non-arguments.

I haven't seen a single bit of reply with content from both you and Mockra (ironically, again the two of you together... ) on that post I made, which DOES adress the state of the game. Even if you disagree with me, you could still put forward your own thoughts, but no. We get to see replies from each of you happy to throw out gutfeelings, vague pointers and implications.

Good for you that you know who Emur is. I don't know who he is. Care to enlighten me, Sherlock?

Mohinda Suresh is my reckoning.

Well, thanks for sharing * PMs Gem that he day-vigs Emur and claims the game *


















I kid, I kid.

[Mockra]

Omtose, on Oct 29 2008, 04:14 PM, said:

(with which I agree with... edits in quotes are no-no's, as I said before)

see now im going to start this fucking arguement all over again cause your pissing me off.

I never edited IN the quote...i just put in the correct fucking quote marks because they were WRONG!!!!!.....FFS
these things ------> [q uote name='Omtose' date='Oct 29 2008, 04:16 PM' post='458947']

WTF is soooooo wrong with THAT!!!


GOOOOSEFRAHBAAAaaaaah...Gooooooosefraaabaaa

This post has been edited by Mockra: 29 October 2008 - 03:21 PM

[Fener]

Omtose, on Oct 29 2008, 03:16 PM, said:

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 11:13 AM, said:

Omtose, on Oct 29 2008, 03:09 PM, said:

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

I know who Emurlahn is. So what does that make Omtose?

Someone who isn't afraid to speak his own mind, even if it leads to non-arguments.

I haven't seen a single bit of reply with content from both you and Mockra (ironically, again the two of you together... ) on that post I made, which DOES adress the state of the game. Even if you disagree with me, you could still put forward your own thoughts, but no. We get to see replies from each of you happy to throw out gutfeelings, vague pointers and implications.

Good for you that you know who Emur is. I don't know who he is. Care to enlighten me, Sherlock?

Mohinda Suresh is my reckoning.

Well, thanks for sharing * PMs Gem that he day-vigs Emur and claims the game *




I kid, I kid.

I know you are joking but this game could be over that fast. The mods have clearly tried to put some things in place to stop that from happening but with a bit of luck or misfortune this game could be over in a couple of days. I suppose you can never truly rule out chance from a game like this.

[Mockra]

Omtose, on Oct 29 2008, 04:09 PM, said:

Fener, on Oct 29 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

I know who Emurlahn is. So what does that make Omtose?

Someone who isn't afraid to speak his own mind, even if it leads to non-arguments.

I haven't seen a single bit of reply with content from both you and Mockra (ironically, again the two of you together... ) on that post I made, which DOES adress the state of the game. Even if you disagree with me, you could still put forward your own thoughts, but no. We get to see replies from each of you happy to throw out gutfeelings, vague pointers and implications.

Good for you that you know who Emur is. I don't know who he is. Care to enlighten me, Sherlock?

What quote are you talking about Omtose...i have literally brushed over everything to get to this point. \
Very bust at work today.

[Serc]

i think we all need to chill out.

mockra - editing comments is generally against the rules, i looked back, it is not against the rules in this game, therefore i was in the wrong. I removed my vote lets leave it at that.

fener - yes i can give thumbs up and down etc so thats a bonus. What makes you think emur is suresh?

@mods - i know there is a rbeak until tomorrow, but only 1 person hasnt checked in, can we play normally and then just start timers for modkills tomorrow? I doubt there will be a lynch today at least half the players are against it.

[Omtose]

@ Mockra: To save us a repetition: Serc gave the reasoning.

@ Fener: yes. There can be stupid luck/ bad luck. But there are always checks and balances. If a faction that's not a one-man-faction loses all victory options when one of its members is removed, then it is bad design. Even in the case of Monroe + Mohinder, and I think I'm dead right about Monroe having an alternate victory condition, it will still take him time to infect everyone he needs to infect. Time enough to be lynched, found, revealed, vigged or captured himself.

That makes me pretty sure by the by that Sylar could have a (temporary?) lynch bulletproof, since him dying day 1 is terminal for the game.

[Fener]

Serc, on Oct 29 2008, 03:24 PM, said:

fener - yes i can give thumbs up and down etc so thats a bonus. What makes you think emur is suresh?

Just my interpretation of your paintings.