[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 24 2008, 10:18 AM, said:

To respond:

On day 1 I had no choice, honestly.

On day 2 I wanted to lynch Vengeance because of his strange behavior during the vote swaps, but nothing happened.

On day 3 I tried something new indeed, putting pressure on Silencer. Some things happened, but at the end of the day, when the Euros woke up, the only one with the mathematical number to be lynched was Morgoth.

On day 4 I tried back to Vengeance, and this time it worked.

Summarize your days, now, please.

You are digging a hole JA.

Day one when you came on it was 4 votes morgoth and like 5 other people with 1-2 votes each.

Then it went J_Slr
Lish
and Dude all within 10-15 minutes of eachother . that made it Morgy-4 Alt-4. How did you not have a choice? The votes were even.

And I inherently distrust people that say "Honestly"

@dkt I will be back in 10 min to make a post on both players. I really would like to hear your input.... bah! work beckons. I will get back asap. hopefully 10-20 min.

This post has been edited by The Dude: 24 October 2008 - 05:33 PM

[Jump Around]

Anyways, off to eat. Will be back before deadline.

[Jump Around]

The Dude, on Oct 24 2008, 08:32 PM, said:

You are digging a hole JA.

Day one when you came on it was 4 votes morgoth and like 5 other people with 1-2 votes each.

Then it went J_Slr
Lish
and Dude all within 10-15 minutes of eachother . that made it Morgy-4 Alt-4. How did you not have a choice?

And I inherently distrust people that say "Honestly"

@dkt I will be back in 10 min to make a post on both players. I really would like to hear your input.... bah! work beckons. I will get back asap. hopefully 10-20 min.

Sorry, I didn't mean "no choice" as in "no choice on who I had to lynch"

I meant as "I had no preference", "no idea on who could be the one I wanted lynched"

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 24 October 2008 - 05:35 PM

[dktorode]

Ag Fuck. Where is silencer and mocker? Probably sitting back and laughing there asses off.

[dktorode]

I think that when either of then arrive they wil quickly vote which ever one of you 2 are l-1 and who it on the sly.

[Obdigore]

You are probably right DK.

Remove Vote

Our time limit is gone. We can wait a while yet.

[dktorode]

All i know is if there is a lynch without my vote that will very likely be the last lynch.

[Jump Around]

remove vote too, it's only fair.


This Dude question made me think of something (haha, I left the table, my wife is pissed )

Didn't dktorode also contribute to all the lynches so far? I remember he started the vote on alt, since it was his case When I showed up to vote, I had very little time before getting kicked out of the computer, and I remember thinking : OK, either we vote off experienced player, or I follow an experienced player. I was a bit harsh for poor alt, but day 1 lynches are just to start the game, and I didn't want to lose Morgoth.

Then I'm sure dktorode helped with the Morgoth lynch, then the Vengeance lynch. And he is VPI, and at least as good as me. This part of Obdigore's case is then moot.

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 24 October 2008 - 05:55 PM

[mocker]

hey hey

hav just been catchin up on the day

i no ive been quiet but have started new job so is hard to get online wen u guys are all on

This post has been edited by mocker: 24 October 2008 - 05:56 PM

[dktorode]

See JA... Shit like that. Ob1 removing his vote is rather un scummy he didn't have to. I would not have if i were scum. I still think both of you are going to much into meta reasoning. Ob1's blow up yesterday aside. He has'nt done much else that i can see as overly scum. Yet i do also feel there is a reason we are struggling to get a lynch on one of you guys. Mayble its the lack of mocker and silencer? I dunno. I would love to hear from them.

[Lacedaemonian]

remove vote.

I think I have this virus that has wrote the woman off. I might not be around much tomorrow.

[mocker]

right DK... i believe he is the only player to trust right now due to the vig claim (unless we're uber unlucky)

JA... seems blinded by his case against odbi but now knows its too much to keep on goin on about it, vote on me was outa the blue in that post but fair do's i havnt exactly been firin on all cylinders this game. i dont no how he plays but him and dk seem to be on the same wavelength (compared to everyone else's relationship in this game) so that leaves room for wee bit more trust.

baudin... could be anything. and lynch happy wen he's on, a lot like lish

lace... i think i trust. to some extent anyway. his way of playing just invites a lynch lol. mad way to play if your a killer

lish... seems to be symping JA. but i think he'd be symping anyone who had a reasonable case on someone else. follows like an eager puppy

me... well ive been pretty shit this game. no qualms there. i plan on changin that now that we're in the home stretch and i'll be on a lot of the weekend. i havnt posted a lot of content yet so there's really no argument against me, but that works both ways lol as ive got none to prove my innocense as a result. as for hammerin Gem- i didnt hammer coz the only argument against her was her silly comment about not mindin if she was killed. was a nothin argument and i really didnt think she would actually get lynched i just wanted to see the train and try work any ppl out based on that. ive been playin very middle of the road sittin on the fence kinda play, which im learnin is bad. i thought it was the way to go as we're un-alted, i kinda didnt wana piss ppl off as am onlyjust gettin to no ppl on the forum. have learnt now that ppl dont give a shit lol. it easily looks like its better to play a risky game than a safe game, which is different from the last game i was in but im gettin my head round it. anyway, yeah lol i'm inno. and im round a lot more now.

obdi... im really unsure about. JA and his little war is muddyin the waters around them both so much that its hard to see the truth (if there's any) from the bullshit. JA's argument sways me more but thats not sayin much

silencer... still worries me. but not as much as some.

the dude... probably the person im most likely to trust most after dk. cant put my finger on why, is just playin a very good game i think

hmm

[dktorode]

You know what! im gona do what would have been done long ago if i didn't know he was new. remove vote, vote mocker. for being completely unconfrontational, never ever stepped on toes. Was too scared to hammer someone. And not contributing to the search for scum. Unless you call repeating and agreeing with other peoples posts contribuing? Even if he is inno in the end. I don't care, it'll be a good lesson to the guy. Bah!

[The Dude]

DKT Pedantic bear just Whispered in my ear, thought I might pass it along. Mocker wouldn't have been the Hammer. There weren't enough people on to get a lynch. I will go back and double check... but I am 83.8% sure. Not sure if that sways your argument or not. Just wonder if thats the way to go at this juncture. The thing is... he could easily be a killer. We just don't know anything about him. I would vote him... my only problem is... if we lynch him and he comes up inno... IF the game still goes on, we are back to the JA/Obdi debate. Not sure we shouldn't just bite the bullet on that now.

[Obdigore]

JA, you down getting rid of the wife aggro and want to talk?

What are people's thoughts on lynching Silencer? Or mockra I guess, since he has nothing at all to say about today's antics.

[Jump Around]

dktorode, on Oct 24 2008, 09:01 PM, said:

See JA... Shit like that. Ob1 removing his vote is rather un scummy he didn't have to. I would not have if i were scum. I still think both of you are going to much into meta reasoning. Ob1's blow up yesterday aside. He has'nt done much else that i can see as overly scum. Yet i do also feel there is a reason we are struggling to get a lynch on one of you guys. Mayble its the lack of mocker and silencer? I dunno. I would love to hear from them.

Obdi has to play some serious "inno-sounding" catch up if he wants to convince anyone that he should survive today. That's why he took his mini-gambit by not voting Venge yesterday, that's why he's doing stuff like that IMO.


Did the timer really stop for the week-end? Ooooooh I'm not doing this for a few days, sorry.

vote Obdigore

I'll switch with dktorode on Mocker if it goes anywhere.

But now I don't want to release the pressure, and get myself lynched . I know I'm inno.

I'm off for at least the night. Think well, please, before you lynch me if you feel like it. But if you do, despite all I said, fine. I'm inno, this being any other day I wouldn't mind, but there's a chance scum wins today, that's the reason I don't want to go down easily.

My testament, if needed:

Dude, Lish, it seems Obdigore has tied you as "my symps" or "my partners". Thanks for your support, though, and don't worry about my CF. You played good games, I hope you'll join us for more.

Baudin has jumped on my train when I suggested he was scum, and paired with Obdi. I guess that shows I hit the right button with him, please look at him. Look also at whoever finishes me, those might be the symps or the real partners. But please lynch Obdigore first, assuming he doesn't get modkilled after rupturing his spleen laughing and getting hospitalized.

That's how innos play, by making things happen. Sorry I couldn't do this all game, I was paralyzed by my reputation. But at least I managed and broke loose at the end, hopefully not one day too late.

Let's lynch Obdigore like we should have yesterday, then worry who is his partner is.

[Obdigore]

I see, we are back to the 'lynch innos with no case' case you like to do JA.

[Jump Around]

Obdigore, on Oct 24 2008, 09:47 PM, said:

JA, you down getting rid of the wife aggro and want to talk?

What are people's thoughts on lynching Silencer? Or mockra I guess, since he has nothing at all to say about today's antics.

Cross-post.

Fuck, I have to go, and now you want to talk?

I voted Mocker earlier today, it was ignored. As for Silencer, I don't know what to say. I grabbed him this morning, I can't believe he would think dktorode could be guilty based on anyone else being guilty, I don't know what the hell that was about. Why, you want to lynch him?

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 24 October 2008 - 06:51 PM

[The Dude]

mocker, on Oct 20 2008, 03:11 PM, said:

could i have a recap of the vote count pls?

i cant see a lynch happenin today, which aint good

but it aint bad either. better to not lynch an inno than go gung ho and lynch someone for the hell of it!!

still tho there's couple of ppl i'm maybe willing to vote for. gona chck there posts again (the few they've posted) and try make sense of it

Straddling

Grief, on Oct 20 2008, 03:18 PM, said:

It is day two. There are 40 minutes remaining.

16 dancers still getting down: Baudin,Dktorode, DrinksinBars, Gavin, Gem, Jump Around, Lacedaemonian, Lisheo, Mocker, Morgoth, Obdigore Silencer, Tapper, The Dude,Vengeance, Yellow,

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

4 Votes Morgoth: DiBs, Lacedaemonian, Baudin, The Dude
4 Votes Lacedaemonian: Vengeance, Gem Windcaster, Tapper, Obdigore
4 Votes Gem: Silencer, Yellow, Gavin, Morgoth
2 votes Vengeance: Jump Around, Dktorode

Players yet to vote: Lisheo, Mocker,

Decided to have a shower...

Here is where the vote stands on the Gem-wanna-train

Lisheo, on Oct 20 2008, 03:22 PM, said:

Screw it
vote Gem
Because we need to get somewhere, and I think she's most likely out of all the people on four votes.

Lisheo votes with the crowd...cause lisheo always votes with the Crown

mocker, on Oct 20 2008, 03:25 PM, said:

hmm it does seem as tho gems the only possible lynch now...

hmm......

Mocker sizing up an opportunity? Wondering if he should jump on... (consistent with his play to date.

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 20 2008, 03:26 PM, said:

I dont think we will have a lynching tonight lads. I just got back from (work) the match and will have to read through the posts since I was gone. I appear to have gathered one or two more votes and will be interested to the reasons why.

mocker, on Oct 20 2008, 03:31 PM, said:

ive refrained from votin for gem all nite even tho i kinda saw the reasons to

and there's other ppl i think are way more dangerous

but we're not gona get anyone else tonite

and we do need info...

dammit

EDIT: grammar

More Wishy washy

mocker, on Oct 20 2008, 03:42 PM, said:

how many votes are needed to lynch?

Here is where it gets a little condeming....

Morgoth, on Oct 20 2008, 03:44 PM, said:

five I think still

The Dude, on Oct 20 2008, 03:49 PM, said:

Train has wi fi. Sweet. I can't change. I don't think she is scum.

First I come on and say I am not voting her.

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 03:52 PM, said:

I am here.

I don't think she is scum at the moment and will not be changing to her.

3 minutes later Obdi says he isn't voting her. At this point a Lynch is impossible.

mocker, on Oct 20 2008, 03:53 PM, said:

dont think i can vote sorry

think gems ok

If he is scum, he has to realize there will be no lynch. if I was a killer I would say the same thing. Not accusing him, but thats awefully fishy.

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 20 2008, 03:53 PM, said:

I am reluctant to vote for Gem and though she made my 'farewell list' I don't think her lynching would bare fruit. She almost wants this to happen because she knows she will come up inno. I doubt she is but my doubts are not enough. People keep accusing me of fucking this game up but I think I have had the biggest effect on the game over the weekend and today. People accuse me of having no strategy and playing too loose - then they accuse me of playing the nab card.

Which is it to be?

I have a very firm idea of how to play this game to get my team to win. I have undoubtedly made some mistakes and played the odd mind fuck card. I will do this again when I feel the timing is right. I am learning more and more as I play though. Learned shit loads today, especially. Perhaps not about suspects but how to best enable myself to recognise them.

I leave my vote on Morgoth - not necessarily to get a lynch - but to keep some pressure on the killers. Voting Morgoth has had an effect - who can deny this?

I await a good case against me. Seen this train yesterday and I would have been disappointed to have been lynched on complete wank reason. Anybody want to suggest they had written some good reasons? Because I know the reasons were limited to a combination of dog shit and more dog shit. What is more I have no defined alliances. I voted Tapper after Silencer - a nab error to a degree but I also considered I could afford one more mind fuck card. People were upset by this even though I had placed him as one of my killers. I am moving away from Tapper and am less certain today about mostly everybody.


Blah blah blah.

And more weirdness from Lace just for shits and giggles

[Jump Around]

Screw that, I'm off, I'll be back tomorrow if you want to discuss other targets.

Although I would be very weary on whoever Obdi proposes, he doesn't need to lynch me today, just an inno. He thought I was the easier target after the emotions of yesterday's Vengeance lynch, I guess he realizes now he was wrong and looks for plan B.