[The Dude]

Come on JA... you HAVE to see the logic in this. You pick. Mocker or Lish. I will vote either one you pick.

[Jump Around]

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 08:03 AM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 10:49 PM, said:

baudin, on Oct 27 2008, 02:25 AM, said:

JA just strikes me as the most likely to be scum especially as everyones theories seem to have him and ... as killers.
Now im going to bed, hopefully wont have to much to catch up on when i get back.

Again with this. Everyone has me as a killer? Who else than you, if you don't mind quoting?


Anyways,

vote Baudin


I don't need a case. He puts a vote on a inno and goes to bed. If it's three scum left, then he has lost us the game anyways, UNLESS he is scum himself.

This just confirms my suspicion. my vote stays.

What? Do you understand, or do you think it's another of those "trust me" experienced shit? It's mathematics.

We are 7 today. We need 4 to lynch. There it at least 2 killers, since we never got a killer CF, and possibly a symp, since it seems we were lucky killing one, but we can't assume we got both. 3 scum. They can't lynch by themselves, but they win if an inno gets it.

Now, if Baudin was inno, he votes an inno (me) and goes to bed.

That leaves about 7 hours for the scum to come and put their 3 votes on me. Game over. They can even discuss it on thread, they have NOTHING to lose, and since Baudin is in bed he can't unvote.

Our only chance is that Baudin is part of the scum team, then he's hoping that he can get one inno to follow him, then the rest of his team can finish it.

Baudin apparently failed to see this. N00b mistake? I mean, we have been excusing those all damned game, but today is not the best time to be lost. If he really wanted to make sure we got a lynch, he would have waited to vote since anyways he'll be back way before end of game.

Anyways, I'm not making a case on him based on that, I'm voting him because until he comes back, he's either scum or we lost anyways, that's what I meant by there's no point making a case.

[Jump Around]

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 08:21 AM, said:

Come on JA... you HAVE to see the logic in this. You pick. Mocker or Lish. I will vote either one you pick.

What? You know my pick, it's Mocker. Has been since yesterday.

I see you are playing this last day entirely based on your "gut", plus you innocent a very good scum candidate just because the killers left you alive?

Dude, take a chill/ humility pill. Wait for dktorode, Obdigore and myself to have their say on it before you vote.

[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 11:22 PM, said:

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 08:03 AM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 10:49 PM, said:

baudin, on Oct 27 2008, 02:25 AM, said:

JA just strikes me as the most likely to be scum especially as everyones theories seem to have him and ... as killers.
Now im going to bed, hopefully wont have to much to catch up on when i get back.

Again with this. Everyone has me as a killer? Who else than you, if you don't mind quoting?


Anyways,

vote Baudin


I don't need a case. He puts a vote on a inno and goes to bed. If it's three scum left, then he has lost us the game anyways, UNLESS he is scum himself.

This just confirms my suspicion. my vote stays.

What? Do you understand, or do you think it's another of those "trust me" experienced shit? It's mathematics.

We are 7 today. We need 4 to lynch. There it at least 2 killers, since we never got a killer CF, and possibly a symp, since it seems we were lucky killing one, but we can't assume we got both. 3 scum. They can't lynch by themselves, but they win if an inno gets it.

Now, if Baudin was inno, he votes an inno (me) and goes to bed.

That leaves about 7 hours for the scum to come and put their 3 votes on me. Game over. They can even discuss it on thread, they have NOTHING to lose, and since Baudin is in bed he can't unvote.

Our only chance is that Baudin is part of the scum team, then he's hoping that he can get one inno to follow him, then the rest of his team can finish it.

Baudin apparently failed to see this. N00b mistake? I mean, we have been excusing those all damned game, but today is not the best time to be lost. If he really wanted to make sure we got a lynch, he would have waited to vote since anyways he'll be back way before end of game.

Anyways, I'm not making a case on him based on that, I'm voting him because until he comes back, he's either scum or we lost anyways, that's what I meant by there's no point making a case.

Like I said... Say you are inno. that makes him a symp at Worst. Run through my scenario, but replace your name with Baudins. and vice versa. That still leads to Lish and Mocker being killers.

[The Dude]

Fine That makes sense

remove vote

[The Dude]

Sorry, I am getting worked up, and didn't think about that. THAT was a huge noob mistake to just leave a vote out there. I apologize.

[The Dude]

JA so take my scenario you know you are inno right? That removes the biggest hole in my argument. If you are CI, the only hole is that Obdi is assumed inno. And like I have said before I am staking my game on him being inno. I think DKT will back me up on this.

[Jump Around]

Well then, re-run your scenarios with the extremely far-fetched possibility that Baudin is a symp and the killers didn't base their night kills only based on who you found suspicious yesterday.

Because you said very well that you were assuming (from gut) that both Obdigore and Baudin are innos when you came to your conclusions.

I like you a lot Dude, you remind me of myself In my first game, I spent all game harassing the killers (dktorode and Dibs) but no-one listened to me. Then in the last day I made awesome "gut-logic" cases, and lead the lynch on an inno.

Ironically, we agree on Mocker, my whole point is chill, because we have time to discuss. We have nothing to lose by talking, let's wait for dktorode and even Obdigore.

[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 11:25 PM, said:

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 08:21 AM, said:

Come on JA... you HAVE to see the logic in this. You pick. Mocker or Lish. I will vote either one you pick.

What? You know my pick, it's Mocker. Has been since yesterday.

I see you are playing this last day entirely based on your "gut", plus you innocent a very good scum candidate just because the killers left you alive?

Dude, take a chill/ humility pill. Wait for dktorode, Obdigore and myself to have their say on it before you vote.

I can see the chill but why humility pill? I don't think I am being big headed. I just see a scenario the totally totally makes sense to me.

I agree... I was being very un dude like (direct quote from the movie mwahahahaha)

[Jump Around]

OK, I take a little break until dktorode comes. My stance now is

Killers: Mocker/Obdigore, with Baudin as a symp.

But I sadly have to add, based on today's posts:

Killers: Obdigore/Baudin, with The Dude as a symp.

[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 11:30 PM, said:

Well then, re-run your scenarios with the extremely far-fetched possibility that Baudin is a symp and the killers didn't base their night kills only based on who you found suspicious yesterday.

Because you said very well that you were assuming (from gut) that both Obdigore and Baudin are innos when you came to your conclusions.

I like you a lot Dude, you remind me of myself In my first game, I spent all game harassing the killers (dktorode and Dibs) but no-one listened to me. Then in the last day I made awesome "gut-logic" cases, and lead the lynch on an inno.

Ironically, we agree on Mocker, my whole point is chill, because we have time to discuss. We have nothing to lose by talking, let's wait for dktorode and even Obdigore.

wow, i take that as a huge compliment thanks! (not being sarcastic)

Ok I see your point. do you agree that my scenario checks out if Obdi is inno? You know you are inno, we are ALL staking our game that DKT is inno. I know I am inno. Thats you me dkt and obdi. thats a win.

I'll say it again. I am willing to risk my game on the fact that Obdi is inno. The one thing I totally expect scum to do now is try to make Huge cases that obdi is scum. We'll just see who starts agreeing. I am willing to bet that Lish and mocker will fall into that camp

[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 11:35 PM, said:

OK, I take a little break until dktorode comes. My stance now is

Killers: Mocker/Obdigore, with Baudin as a symp.

But I sadly have to add, based on today's posts:

Killers: Obdigore/Baudin, with The Dude as a symp.

Lol you don't have to be sad. JA you just confirmed to me that you are in fact the symp. I KNOW I am inno. You placing me in team evil just confirms my suspicion.

Of course you want to vote Mocker. We know he will come up Killer. Then woohoo! Look at us. At that point I fully expect to

a. still be alive, cause NKing me would confirm I am right also Baudin will still be left alive as well. Probably a dkt night kill. I don't think there was a healer or guard in this game. Or if there was they were killed long ago. Just realized, it is possible I will be NK'd here as I will come up inno and that fits with JA's plan to make me look like a symp.

b. You and lish will then make a full charge for Obdi. and I can only hope Baudin won't be swayed by the Weasel (though he did vote for you today, so he is on the right track.

@ Baudin. I apologise for going after you hard for 2 days. I really thought you were scum.

EDIT realized I could be NK'd to fit into JA's dude= symp case that he is frantically working on right now
b.

This post has been edited by The Dude: 27 October 2008 - 06:46 AM

[Jump Around]

OK, I hesitated a long time for this, but I think now is the time to do it. I see that my argument is that one of either me of Obdigore is scum (based on none of us being hammered by anyone).

I have a reveal to make, I vigged Dibs.

Yes, dibs, not Gem. I was very surprised to see the killers kill her, by the time I came back I realized that many assumed the other way around, so I decided to let it slide and stay silent.

NKing Gem was obviously a set-up NK, since she was involved in many arguments the day before, and that's the kind of players that are usually left alive. By leaving the fact that she wasn't vigged silent, I removed all the WIFOM associated with her kill, which wouldn't have helped us anyways.

I kept silent because I wanted to see if anyone would make a slip and say that "dibs got vigged" or "Gem got NKed" later in the game. That person making such a slip would have probably been a killer, and I could have used that to make a re-read and a proper case on that person. There's no other reason for a vig to stay silent otherwise, that's why I felt so awkward arguing with dktorode who was (rightfully) trying to get me to reveal.

Now, why did I vig Dibs? Well, we didn't get a lynch the day before, and we needed info. When dibs is a killer, he is a force of nature, I don't think he ever was lynched as scum. Making cases on him is so hard, that the only chance to kill him is by vig justice. He was also involved in many arguments, and his CF was important to get at that point. He was also behaving slightly off, for example when telling me I was probably inno. I don't see inno dibs giving anyone a break, specially not me, I thought he was sucking up to me so i don't look at him too hard.

All of those who said I "laid low", well I did because I was roled and didn't want to get lynched at the slightest hint of me doing something. After my vig kill I became RI and could play more relaxed, as you all saw.

[Jump Around]

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 08:41 AM, said:

Lol you don't have to be sad. JA you just confirmed to me that you are in fact the symp. I KNOW I am inno. You placing me in team evil just confirms my suspicion.

That's what I meant by taking a "humility pill"

[The Dude]

Guys... JA, Lish and Mocker are going to be coming at me pretty hard coming up here. But I stand beside everything I have said and done in this game. I am going to sleep now. I am sure I will have a ton of things to answer for and I look forward to it.


WOW this is fucking amazing. My heart is going a mile a minute. How in hell do you get a rush from a computer game. I now love this game and am hooked for life. Now I know why you all play this. Good night fellas. This has been AMAZING!

@obdi Obdi... if you are scum....... I hate you so so so so much But I don't think you are... I think team inno just fucking won!!!

[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 11:48 PM, said:

OK, I hesitated a long time for this, but I think now is the time to do it. I see that my argument is that one of either me of Obdigore is scum (based on none of us being hammered by anyone).

I have a reveal to make, I vigged Dibs.

Yes, dibs, not Gem. I was very surprised to see the killers kill her, by the time I came back I realized that many assumed the other way around, so I decided to let it slide and stay silent.

NKing Gem was obviously a set-up NK, since she was involved in many arguments the day before, and that's the kind of players that are usually left alive. By leaving the fact that she wasn't vigged silent, I removed all the WIFOM associated with her kill, which wouldn't have helped us anyways.

I kept silent because I wanted to see if anyone would make a slip and say that "dibs got vigged" or "Gem got NKed" later in the game. That person making such a slip would have probably been a killer, and I could have used that to make a re-read and a proper case on that person. There's no other reason for a vig to stay silent otherwise, that's why I felt so awkward arguing with dktorode who was (rightfully) trying to get me to reveal.

Now, why did I vig Dibs? Well, we didn't get a lynch the day before, and we needed info. When dibs is a killer, he is a force of nature, I don't think he ever was lynched as scum. Making cases on him is so hard, that the only chance to kill him is by vig justice. He was also involved in many arguments, and his CF was important to get at that point. He was also behaving slightly off, for example when telling me I was probably inno. I don't see inno dibs giving anyone a break, specially not me, I thought he was sucking up to me so i don't look at him too hard.

All of those who said I "laid low", well I did because I was roled and didn't want to get lynched at the slightest hint of me doing something. After my vig kill I became RI and could play more relaxed, as you all saw.

Wow.... missed this earlier. if you win this for evil JA.... well played. You really deserve your card in HHM. Ok really going to bed now. Dkt. I look forward to your thoughts. Whats your stance on obdi. Thats really what this game has boiled down to.

edit I see DKT is on Hurry up man!!!

This post has been edited by The Dude: 27 October 2008 - 07:22 AM

[Jump Around]

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 09:18 AM, said:

Wow.... missed this earlier. if you win this for evil JA.... well played. You really deserve your card in HHM. Ok really going to bed now. Dkt. I look forward to your thoughts. Whats your stance on obdi. Thats really what this game has boiled down to.

edit I see DKT is on Hurry up man!!!

Wha?

Holy shit, we really lost the Dude Funny thing is, I really don't see how and where they tricked him so badly, besides, what, leaving him alive for today?

They played my Weasel card to perfection, keeping me for today knowing that fear would take over and I would either be lynched, or no-body would listen to me. If it's you, Obdigore, like I think it is, I don't care how many games you skip after this one, you're on my list forever

Last time I was in that position it was Q21 the killer, at least he had the decency to kill me first night of the game

[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 27 2008, 12:33 AM, said:

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 09:18 AM, said:

Wow.... missed this earlier. if you win this for evil JA.... well played. You really deserve your card in HHM. Ok really going to bed now. Dkt. I look forward to your thoughts. Whats your stance on obdi. Thats really what this game has boiled down to.

edit I see DKT is on Hurry up man!!!

Wha?

Holy shit, we really lost the Dude Funny thing is, I really don't see how and where they tricked him so badly, besides, what, leaving him alive for today?

They played my Weasel card to perfection, keeping me for today knowing that fear would take over and I would either be lynched, or no-body would listen to me. If it's you, Obdigore, like I think it is, I don't care how many games you skip after this one, you're on my list forever

Last time I was in that position it was Q21 the killer, at least he had the decency to kill me first night of the game

JA.... I thought I was the symp? Thats what you are saying I thought? How was I tricked? Either I am inno.. like you just said. or I am obdi's symp. You are going back and forth here. And there is no "They" its Obdi. He's who has me tricked if he really is guilty.

This post has been edited by The Dude: 27 October 2008 - 07:46 AM

[The Dude]

And Like I said, I haven't voted yet, I am willing to listen to cases... but really... only cases from DKT as He is the only one I can truly trust. Damn you for being slow dkt. I have to go to sleep now. for real. good night.

[Path-Shaper]

It may interest you to know that the weekend freeze ends in 10 minutes

It is Day 6, 24 hours left, the clock restarts at 8 AM GMT (9 min from now)

7 people are still getting down'n'dirty with each other: Baudin, Dktorode, Jump Around, Lisheo, Mocker, Obdigore, The Dude

takes 4 votes to lynch or 4 to go to night

1 vote For JA: Baudin
1 vote for Baudin: JA

5 people have not voted: Dktorode, Lisheo, Mocker, Obdigore, The Dude