[dktorode]

Lisheo, on Oct 21 2008, 04:42 PM, said:

Right, I'm back. So DiBs kill is considered to be WIFOM... I dunno. Seems like there could have been a point to it, maybe the killers want to keep the attention on someone DiBs accused earlier. Just guessing mind, I don't really know, I like to think that maybe there's a pattern, would make the game much more understandable.

Thats WIFOM...har har

Lisheo, on Oct 21 2008, 04:42 PM, said:

Gem was vig killed because someone really thought she was guilty enough to want to get rid of her even though the train didn't go through. Can we assume it was someone on the Gem, then? Yellow, Gavin, Silencer or Morgoth?

We dont know she was vigged for SURE...its the best guess. Doubt anybody vigged dibs. Killers wouldndt kill Gem...she was a prime candidate for a lynch today.


I still think the vig should come forward and clear this up...unless it was dibs...bah

[Jump Around]

@Lish: I don't really want to "expose" the vig, I don't fully agree with Dktorode who wants him to reveal. I do think one of the killers might be there, it's an idea I explained earlier.

@Obdigore: Well, if Morgoth refused to vote Lace and you find this suspicious, why didn't you find it suspicious yesterday?

Anyways, I'm not interested in arguing with Obdigore, he's either the symp and I'm playing his game, or he's an inno and us clashing doesn't help (Sadly, I don't feel he's a killer, if he is I'll bite myself after this game). If there is fresh arguments against Lace, I'm game. I am still happy with those I brought forward yesterday for my own vote.

[dktorode]

Obdigore, on Oct 21 2008, 04:44 PM, said:

Lisheo, on Oct 21 2008, 08:42 AM, said:

Right, I'm back. So DiBs kill is considered to be WIFOM... I dunno. Seems like there could have been a point to it, maybe the killers want to keep the attention on someone DiBs accused earlier. Just guessing mind, I don't really know, I like to think that maybe there's a pattern, would make the game much more understandable.
Gem was vig killed because someone really thought she was guilty enough to want to get rid of her even though the train didn't go through. Can we assume it was someone on the Gem, then? Yellow, Gavin, Silencer or Morgoth?

Why don't you tell us what YOU think Lish, instead of asking questions and parroting what people have said before?

Who are your suspects...(both lish and Obdi can answer thank you very much )

[Morgoth]

Obdigore, on Oct 21 2008, 03:42 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 21 2008, 08:37 AM, said:

Obdigore, on Oct 21 2008, 04:33 PM, said:

I'm here.

In response to JA, whos only 'thought' against me seems to be me 'resurrecting' the Lace train?

Did you read what I was saying at that time? I didn't think morgy or gem were evil. Lace had the most votes of the 3 people I was willing to vote for right then.

Would you be so kind as to explain why that makes me suspicious?

Why didn't you consider Gem and Morgoth evil? Wasn't it better to accomplish a lynch than to vote for someone that was more or less forgotten for that day? I agree Lace smells fishy, I voted for him earlier that day, but that was not the best time to "make a point" IMO.

If there were people on to lynch Gem, then there were people on to lynch Lace. Why did Morgy vote for gem who only had 3 at the time instead of Lace who had 4?

I think I explained why I picked Gem over Lace quite clearly. As for just the cynical aspect of it and wanting a lynch of anyone, well, Lace's train was old news. i seriously doubted there'd be a chance to get it going again, and I did believe and still do that Gem would've been the best lynch in regards to the info we would've gotten.

[Giles]

Lisheo, on Oct 21 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

Right, I'm back. So DiBs kill is considered to be WIFOM... I dunno. Seems like there could have been a point to it, maybe the killers want to keep the attention on someone DiBs accused earlier. Just guessing mind, I don't really know, I like to think that maybe there's a pattern, would make the game much more understandable.
Gem was vig killed because someone really thought she was guilty enough to want to get rid of her even though the train didn't go through. Can we assume it was someone on the Gem, then? Yellow, Gavin, Silencer or Morgoth?

I dont think it does us any good really trying to guess who vigged Gem because if it wasnt the killer then they are innocent. Yeah DiBs kill does look WIFOM to me. It could just be because he was an obvious innocent and is an experienced player or it could be anything else.

[Obdigore]

Jump Around, on Oct 21 2008, 08:47 AM, said:

@Lish: I don't really want to "expose" the vig, I don't fully agree with Dktorode who wants him to reveal. I do think one of the killers might be there, it's an idea I explained earlier.

@Obdigore: Well, if Morgoth refused to vote Lace and you find this suspicious, why didn't you find it suspicious yesterday?

Anyways, I'm not interested in arguing with Obdigore, he's either the symp and I'm playing his game, or he's an inno and us clashing doesn't help (Sadly, I don't feel he's a killer, if he is I'll bite myself after this game). If there is fresh arguments against Lace, I'm game. I am still happy with those I brought forward yesterday for my own vote.

Because when he did it, I was at home and eating delicious pork chops. I wasn't thinking clearly and just responding to what someone was saying instead of looking at what they are doing.

[Lisheo]

Alright, Obdi. I'm not sure who was vig killed and who was night killed, but I think that as they were both older members perhaps one of them said something off-hand that got them killed. Or maybe its a newer member as a killer who was worried they'd sniff em out. DiBs was very vocal earlier and I kinda suspect he was the nk and Gem was the vig because an inno vig took a shine to the case against her and killed her off instead of waiting to try to lynch her again, which would give evidence of it being one of the peope most vocal about lynching her. I don't think they should come forward, actually, because there's no point, a ) if they actually killed DiBs there'd be a lot of awkward questions that'd give the killers a chance to burrow deeper. B ) Because it just makes them a target, which means we will be expecting them to be nked, so the killers would assume that they'll get a bodyguard/bouncer/healer whatever its called ability on them to make them waste a kill and just go for someone else completely anyway. My thoughts.

[dktorode]

Jump Around, on Oct 21 2008, 04:47 PM, said:

@Lish: I don't really want to "expose" the vig, I don't fully agree with Dktorode who wants him to reveal. I do think one of the killers might be there, it's an idea I explained earlier.

What harm would it be for him to expose....erm come out of the closet?

[Lisheo]

And my suspect, we'll, I don't know because I can't tell who was the vig or who was the nk. If Gem was the nk, then someone on her train was almost definatly scum, if DiBs was nked, I think we can assume it was in relation to someone who's name he brought up.

[dktorode]

Lisheo, on Oct 21 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

And my suspect, we'll, I don't know because I can't tell who was the vig or who was the nk. If Gem was the nk, then someone on her train was almost definatly scum, if DiBs was nked, I think we can assume it was in relation to someone who's name he brought up.

Erm...try forgetting about the night actions...then try again

[Jump Around]

dktorode, on Oct 21 2008, 04:50 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 21 2008, 04:47 PM, said:

@Lish: I don't really want to "expose" the vig, I don't fully agree with Dktorode who wants him to reveal. I do think one of the killers might be there, it's an idea I explained earlier.

What harm would it be for him to expose....erm come out of the closet?

Not sure actually, it just feels... not right.

I doubt it was dibs, though (*looks at living and breathing Morgoth *)

[Giles]

I'd say because it would just give the killers an obvious NK target that wouldnt give us any more information to work with

[Obdigore]

dktorode, on Oct 21 2008, 08:48 AM, said:

Obdigore, on Oct 21 2008, 04:44 PM, said:

Lisheo, on Oct 21 2008, 08:42 AM, said:

Right, I'm back. So DiBs kill is considered to be WIFOM... I dunno. Seems like there could have been a point to it, maybe the killers want to keep the attention on someone DiBs accused earlier. Just guessing mind, I don't really know, I like to think that maybe there's a pattern, would make the game much more understandable.
Gem was vig killed because someone really thought she was guilty enough to want to get rid of her even though the train didn't go through. Can we assume it was someone on the Gem, then? Yellow, Gavin, Silencer or Morgoth?

Why don't you tell us what YOU think Lish, instead of asking questions and parroting what people have said before?

Who are your suspects...(both lish and Obdi can answer thank you very much )

As I posted before night:

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At this point I would be willing to vote for, in order:

Gavin
Lace
Yellow

Although I am less convinced of Morgy's innocence as the day progresses, but those 3 are still tops to me.

Ok Morgy, Gem is dead and came up Inno. What has this told you?

Morgoth said:

I think I explained why I picked Gem over Lace quite clearly. As for just the cynical aspect of it and wanting a lynch of anyone, well, Lace's train was old news. i seriously doubted there'd be a chance to get it going again, and I did believe and still do that Gem would've been the best lynch in regards to the info we would've gotten.

[Obdigore]

Lisheo, on Oct 21 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

Alright, Obdi. I'm not sure who was vig killed and who was night killed, but I think that as they were both older members perhaps one of them said something off-hand that got them killed. Or maybe its a newer member as a killer who was worried they'd sniff em out. DiBs was very vocal earlier and I kinda suspect he was the nk and Gem was the vig because an inno vig took a shine to the case against her and killed her off instead of waiting to try to lynch her again, which would give evidence of it being one of the peope most vocal about lynching her. I don't think they should come forward, actually, because there's no point, a ) if they actually killed DiBs there'd be a lot of awkward questions that'd give the killers a chance to burrow deeper. B ) Because it just makes them a target, which means we will be expecting them to be nked, so the killers would assume that they'll get a bodyguard/bouncer/healer whatever its called ability on them to make them waste a kill and just go for someone else completely anyway. My thoughts.

There is your WIFOM thoughts on 2 night deaths. Who are your suspects? Who/What do you find suspicious. You are way ahead in posts, and have nearly less content than me. What is up with that?

[Lisheo]

What content do you have? You've simply challenged me to put my opinions out the last four or five times we've talked. My suspects are Yellow, Silencer, and Gavin. Not Morgy, because I think maybe the DiBs kill was an attempt to make him look like scum. But also Lace looks kinda dodgy. And I'm not sure about you or Tapper. You've both been dominating arguments, and not coming up with much, really.

[dktorode]

baudin, on Oct 21 2008, 04:54 PM, said:

I'd say because it would just give the killers an obvious NK target that wouldnt give us any more information to work with

As if NK targets give us anything anyways...

Like i said earlyer...if the killers want to kill him then go ahead, his role is useless now anyways, Also gives us a VPI to bounce ideas off of.

The main reason is to clear up the NK so we can stop guessing about who killed who and continue with the game.


Not really a big issue, up to the the vig himself.

edit - grammer

This post has been edited by dktorode: 21 October 2008 - 02:02 PM

[Gavin]

Alrighty so nights over. Touched surprised about her being innocent as well. I have to assume Gem was vigged after the no info from Day 2 and Dibs was the NK. Dibs was more or less above the pack of suspects no one seemed to have him in their sights and he was fairly active, so I would presume thats why he was killed. Possibly someone he brought up as the icing on the cake.

Gem was one of the leading lynch candidates so there's no way a killer would have targetted her.


For today, well there has been a lot swirling around Morgoth and Vengeance so I think we might need to look at one of those two.

There's also been a few people who have really slipped under the radar, The Dude and Silencer spring to mind. In fact I can't really remember much from The Dude at all.

[Jump Around]

It's early in the day, let's try something new

vote Silencer

Because I can't remember what his opinion is on any of the subjects that came up so far, and his strange no-explaination votes.

[Lisheo]

Im also game for putting a little pressure on him, I can't remember him saying much, and he's one of my suspects.
Vote silencer

[Jump Around]

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